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goferchan posted:Just running around the player housing area is cool, it feels like checking out random street pass houses in animal crossing which I always loved doing I didn't know the player housing existed until I was level cap and had been playing for months and I dropped everything I was doing to wander around them for like 3 hours the first time I went. It's so cool. I want a house, even though they're a racket designed to make you keep paying the monthly fee.
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This game is super chill. Made it to level 10 class and main story quests last night -- I love the music and the cutscenes and the writing is really charming. Can't wait to learn my crafting skills
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Nov 20, 2018 15:42
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Small note about crafting: if you want to learn one crafter you pretty much have to learn them all and become an omniscient handyman because they all correlate to eachother and require skills and materials the other crafters have at higher levels. Except fishing really, its kind of its own thing.
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Nov 20, 2018 15:48
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But it is pretty fun and relaxing, gatherer jobs are mostly just wandering the world and clicking buttons to harvest stuff, but the crafters are playing a turn based strategy game pretty much, and to make high quality gear you need to pay attention and plan ahead, its neat.
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Nov 20, 2018 15:53
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I'm a big gathering fan myself, you're also doing some planning when going for HQ and colletsbles. The way this game handles gathering/crafting is fairly unique.
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Nov 20, 2018 15:55
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esperterra posted:Man I need to start playin XIV again. I'm kinda tempted to too i'm really glad the yahve the job system because fuuuuuuck ever going through all that story content ever again
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Nov 20, 2018 16:19
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:I'm kinda tempted to too There's a lot of charming stuff about xiv and the presentation in the expansions just got better and better but boy, the 1.x patch content is just about the miserable poo poo I've ever experienced
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Nov 20, 2018 16:23
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In Training posted:There's a lot of charming stuff about xiv and the presentation in the expansions just got better and better but boy, the 1.x patch content is just about the miserable poo poo I've ever experienced At what point do you get out of 1.x?
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Over There posted:At what point do you get out of 1.x? sorry i meant 2.x, its the story patches between the launch of Realm Reborn and the first expansion, it has as many quests as the main story but its 100% cutscenes and you get no xp from them. So its like 15 hours of listening to NPCs babble.
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Nov 20, 2018 16:50
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I think theres cool story stuff that does happen in that long stretch, especially the back half as it leads into heavensward, but it is hella long.
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Sharkopath posted:I think theres cool story stuff that does happen in that long stretch, especially the back half as it leads into heavensward, but it is hella long. A lot of it is go talk to a person 10 feet away, watch a cut scene, then go back to the quest giver and watch another cutscene. And content still assumes you're capped at 50 so it's piss easy and doesn't do much to break up the cutscenes.
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Nov 20, 2018 18:12
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What would you say the ratio of Final Fantasy Game to MMO is?
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More Final Fantasy, its still an mmo world with mmo gameplay but until you catch up to endgame its pretty much an exceptionally big single player rpg focused on story and characters with occasional breaks of group content as you do dungeons and big boss fights with other people.
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Nov 20, 2018 18:36
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All the endgame boss fights are also just reinventions of final fantasy classics in their engine, it's awesome. Especially sigmascape, that was top bottom killer, and the only raid stuff I've been active during. I'm looking forward to playing alphascape once I get around to it.
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Nov 20, 2018 18:46
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It's definitely an MMO. Doesn't play at all like a single player FF
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Nov 20, 2018 18:48
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:It's definitely an MMO. Doesn't play at all like a single player FF This plus sub fee pretty much keeps me from pulling the trigger and trying it. Mmo combat and quest structure is the worst.
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Nov 20, 2018 18:52
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tao of lmao posted:This plus sub fee pretty much keeps me from pulling the trigger and trying it. Mmo combat and quest structure is the worst. The free trial lets you play (mostly, I think you're restricted from player marketplaces and stuff) unimpeded for as long as you want with a level cap of 35. It's definitely enough time to get a feel for the structure, seems like
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Yeah. I mean you're not gonna like the first 50 level's if you don't like MMOs, but at 50+ they overhauled the way every class works and they're more fun. But there's still a lot of killing 8 sheeps
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Nov 20, 2018 19:14
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Lol cool I like that fishing is its own class with its own gear and skill trees and stuff.
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Nov 20, 2018 19:23
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I'm leveling an archer because a bard looks fun.
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Nov 20, 2018 19:34
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Over There posted:I'm leveling an archer because a bard looks fun. Its one of the most wanted classes cause it does good damage and has a bunch of skills that make everybody else do more damage too.
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Nov 20, 2018 19:36
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goferchan posted:Lol cool I like that fishing is its own class with its own gear and skill trees and stuff. It's the best part of the game.
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Nov 20, 2018 20:20
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It has all the bad stuff from MMOs but they put in the good stuff from final fantasy. I didn't think I'd like it but it won me over.
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It's definitely an MMO but it has some novelties about it, almost enough to offset the bad stuff like inventory management. When I last played managing your stash/inventory was a horrendous chore and an obvious tactic to get people to buy more NPC item handlers, but maybe it's better now? Honestly if somebody tells me they made glamours manageable that might sell me on coming back. Music and visuals are top notch if you care about that sort of thing, characters are hit or miss. And as others said it has the best crafting/gathering system out of any MMO I've played.
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In Training posted:I didn't know the player housing existed until I was level cap and had been playing for months and I dropped everything I was doing to wander around them for like 3 hours the first time I went. It's so cool. I want a house, even though they're a racket designed to make you keep paying the monthly fee. i deadass only log in lately to keep my house from being destroyed lmao
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Nov 20, 2018 21:40
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Sharkopath posted:Small note about crafting: if you want to learn one crafter you pretty much have to learn them all and become an omniscient handyman because they all correlate to eachother and require skills and materials the other crafters have at higher levels.
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In Training posted:I didn't know the player housing existed until I was level cap and had been playing for months and I dropped everything I was doing to wander around them for like 3 hours the first time I went. It's so cool. I want a house, even though they're a racket designed to make you keep paying the monthly fee. Im fine with the monthly fee in principle because theres nothing else in the game to spend money on after a point. e: oh you mean real money
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Nov 20, 2018 23:40
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Corner the effervescent water and natron markets
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:It's definitely an MMO but it has some novelties about it, almost enough to offset the bad stuff like inventory management. When I last played managing your stash/inventory was a horrendous chore and an obvious tactic to get people to buy more NPC item handlers, but maybe it's better now? Honestly if somebody tells me they made glamours manageable that might sell me on coming back. They expanded the player inventory, and they added a weird system for glamours where you can add stuff into a wardrobe and save stuff to a plate that you can repeatedly apply to whatever you're wearing. Its not ideal and you cant collect absolutely every item, but its way better than the old system, which is also still in place
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The new glamour system is tight as hell compared to the old one. I still wish you could do cross class glamours tho. So many of the armour pieces I want just don't fuckin work on my monk, RIP.
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spb posted:Tried playing a couple of years ago and couldn't get into it. Not an MMO guy It's not bad honestly but if I lost my account and had to redo all of the Realm Reborn content there's no way I'd ever bother.
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I think I’m gonna try out FF12 Zodiac Age this weekend. I haven’t played it since the original PS2 release
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I think I’m gonna try out FF12 Zodiac Age this weekend. I haven’t played it since the original PS2 release
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I'm gonna get it on switch bc the TV/portable option for JRPGs is simply unparalleled and it's my preferred platform for the genre now...I may even wait the six years for DQXI lol
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In Training posted:I'm gonna get it on switch bc the TV/portable option for JRPGs is simply unparalleled and it's my preferred platform for the genre now...I may even wait the six years for DQXI lol I was thinking about waiting for the Switch version but I just don’t wanna wait! gently caress!!!
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FactsAreUseless posted:Zodiac Age is easier but it also means you can play around with weird gimmick builds. i'm sort of at a loss as to how ff12 can get easier. like, the beginning of the game is generous and after you get gambits, it;s about programming the bulk of the game to play itself. half of the boss fights are just doing the limit break chain right and the other half are just layering making basic final fantasy decisions over the "play a final fantasy game" programming that gambits are. admittedly we never got to that endless multiple hour hunt or whatever, but we got like 10 out of the twelve espers. don't get me wrong, my brother and i have played through most of it more than once and enjoyed it, it's not a bad game, but i think it's definitely the easiest FF game besides... maybe 10? and that's only if you're not playing 10's mini-games.
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Every FF is easy except maybe XIII if you don't understand how to paradigm shift, which apparently a lot of people don't
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Bicyclops posted:i'm sort of at a loss as to how ff12 can get easier. like, the beginning of the game is generous and after you get gambits, it;s about programming the bulk of the game to play itself. half of the boss fights are just doing the limit break chain right and the other half are just layering making basic final fantasy decisions over the "play a final fantasy game" programming that gambits are. admittedly we never got to that endless multiple hour hunt or whatever, but we got like 10 out of the twelve espers.
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