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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

zegermans posted:

Mississippi's population is 37 black lmao jim crow is real

There's a reason a lot of voter suppression was super overt in the south, they have a lot of the black people and the white people wanted to make sure they never made their lives any better.

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Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

zegermans posted:

many states are passing anti-gerrymandering referendums/amendments on their own, so the problem might solve itself eventually.

[Ron Howard voicce] the problem did not solve itself

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Mia Love OUT

blue wave rolls on

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
+40 in the house is a lot right

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
The vote-counters in CA-21 have toiled all day to bring you this dramatic update:
https://twitter.com/CATargetBot/status/1065057949620432897
lol

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

Apraxin posted:

The vote-counters in CA-21 have toiled all day to bring you this dramatic update:
https://twitter.com/CATargetBot/status/1065057949620432897
lol

democrats "found" these votes in their pockets, how convenient

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Apraxin posted:

The vote-counters in CA-21 have toiled all day to bring you this dramatic update:
https://twitter.com/CATargetBot/status/1065057949620432897
lol

those numbers seem a bit odd :thunk:

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

crazy cloud posted:

+40 in the house is a lot right

ehhhhh. it could have been +100 if republicans didn’t do all that illegal poo poo.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

crazy cloud posted:

+40 in the house is a lot right

1 less than post watergate lol

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Lawman 0 posted:

1 less than post watergate lol

several more than the republican revolution delegation of 1995

it's a healthy majority but not crushing. certainly not like the pre-reagan house democrats

edit lol there's a chance the dems end up with exactly the same number of seats as in the 2007 congress, maybe one or two more

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

i say swears online posted:

several more than the republican revolution delegation of 1995

it's a healthy majority but not crushing. certainly not like the pre-reagan house democrats

edit lol there's a chance the dems end up with exactly the same number of seats as in the 2007 congress, maybe one or two more

thanks, obama

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

it would have been cut to only +10 if the Russians had the :effort: to get involved

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
why is it just accepted wisdom around this forum specifically that bernie is the only person who could have a shot in 2020? why wouldnt he get ratfucked and voter suppressed ten times harder than an abrams or gillum, particularly if we're in the midst of a recession or the banks feel one coming? not to mention how one sided the corporate media coverage would be, along with a million other institutional advantages the right would bring to bear if someone as unapologetic about his version of socialism as he is came within striking distance of winning the presidency

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


cargo cult posted:

why is it just accepted wisdom around this forum specifically that bernie is the only person who could have a shot in 2020? why wouldnt he get ratfucked and voter suppressed ten times harder than an abrams or gillum, particularly if we're in the midst of a recession or the banks feel one coming? not to mention how one sided the corporate media coverage would be, along with a million other institutional advantages the right would bring to bear if someone as unapologetic about his version of socialism as he is came within striking distance of winning the presidency

because we gain literally nothing by being "rational"

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

cargo cult posted:

why is it just accepted wisdom around this forum specifically that bernie is the only person who could have a shot in 2020? why wouldnt he get ratfucked and voter suppressed ten times harder than an abrams or gillum, particularly if we're in the midst of a recession or the banks feel one coming? not to mention how one sided the corporate media coverage would be, along with a million other institutional advantages the right would bring to bear if someone as unapologetic about his version of socialism as he is came within striking distance of winning the presidency

idk I think probably beto, Harris, Gilibrand or anyone else who goes heavy on the economy could probably win as long as they don't take poo poo for granted.
good chance president goodbrains pockets a bunch of the money and wastes time campaigning in red while turning up the racism dial until suburban voters go :yikes: again

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

cargo cult posted:

why is it just accepted wisdom around this forum specifically that bernie is the only person who could have a shot in 2020? why wouldnt he get ratfucked and voter suppressed ten times harder than an abrams or gillum, particularly if we're in the midst of a recession or the banks feel one coming? not to mention how one sided the corporate media coverage would be, along with a million other institutional advantages the right would bring to bear if someone as unapologetic about his version of socialism as he is came within striking distance of winning the presidency

Because they will do that to literally anyone the Dems run, and who other than Bernie would do anything other than cave before it and try to play the reasonable-moderate game which never loving works?

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

cargo cult posted:

why is it just accepted wisdom around this forum specifically that bernie is the only person who could have a shot in 2020? why wouldnt he get ratfucked and voter suppressed ten times harder than an abrams or gillum, particularly if we're in the midst of a recession or the banks feel one coming? not to mention how one sided the corporate media coverage would be, along with a million other institutional advantages the right would bring to bear if someone as unapologetic about his version of socialism as he is came within striking distance of winning the presidency

because aoc will be younger than 35 in 2020

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


brugroffil posted:

Presidential years are higher turnout in general and moreso for Dems than reps, or at least that's been the case historically.

2020 state level races are vital to undo the gerrymandering damage after the next census. It's hard to crack, but if the gender gap keeps growing that's harder to gerrymander around than racial and class divides

You haven't thought of quantum state gerrymandering though brugroffil

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

cargo cult posted:

why is it just accepted wisdom around this forum specifically that bernie is the only person who could have a shot in 2020? why wouldnt he get ratfucked and voter suppressed ten times harder than an abrams or gillum, particularly if we're in the midst of a recession or the banks feel one coming? not to mention how one sided the corporate media coverage would be, along with a million other institutional advantages the right would bring to bear if someone as unapologetic about his version of socialism as he is came within striking distance of winning the presidency

:shrug: goons love having wrong opinions

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

cargo cult posted:

why is it just accepted wisdom around this forum specifically that bernie is the only person who could have a shot in 2020? why wouldnt he get ratfucked and voter suppressed ten times harder than an abrams or gillum, particularly if we're in the midst of a recession or the banks feel one coming? not to mention how one sided the corporate media coverage would be, along with a million other institutional advantages the right would bring to bear if someone as unapologetic about his version of socialism as he is came within striking distance of winning the presidency

cuz sa political forums are basically about as far left as you can get in us politics and bernie is the closest thing you have to a communist candidate

in reality candidate choice at this point really doesn't matter that much because partisanship is so high 90% of everyone are just party line voters and the remaining votes based on random poo poo like which part of the business cycle we are on or RNG generated terrorist attack that are completely outside the control of whoever the opposition party runs

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



why do people think that the most popular politician in america has the best chance of winning, please help

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

Shear Modulus posted:

why do people think that the most popular politician in america has the best chance of winning, please help

Donald trump for Democratic Party candidate :hmmyes:

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
nvm

cargo cult has issued a correction as of 08:38 on Nov 21, 2018

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
none of the democrats you know have a chance of beating a generic republican for president in 2020. none of the democrats you know have a chance of beating donald trump for president in 2020.

both trump and the gop will have to get massively more unpopular between now and then. the illusion that the economy is doing well (and for at least 75% of the country it isn't) is too strong a platform.

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


ScrubLeague posted:

the illusion that the economy is doing well

then do I have some good news for you today

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

ScrubLeague posted:

none of the democrats you know have a chance of beating a generic republican for president in 2020. none of the democrats you know have a chance of beating donald trump for president in 2020.

both trump and the gop will have to get massively more unpopular between now and then. the illusion that the economy is doing well (and for at least 75% of the country it isn't) is too strong a platform.

They lost the house bigly with this economy you dolt

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



the democratic party will 100% run hillary again because its her turn hth

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

*sees a bunch of Republicans grift themselves out of their own seats*
:hmmyes: these are political geniuses to be feared

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

BIGFOOT EROTICA posted:

the democratic party will 100% run hillary again because its her turn hth

If they do we deserve everything

Serf
May 5, 2011


trump is gonna win in 2020. set your sights on 2024 and hope he agrees to vacate the office

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Serf posted:

trump is gonna win in 2020. set your sights on 2024 and hope he agrees to vacate the office

He won't actually and may very well be dead of a stroke by then

Serf
May 5, 2011


Lawman 0 posted:

He won't actually and may very well be dead of a stroke by then

man are you in for some serious poo poo

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Serf posted:

man are you in for some serious poo poo

The GOP is literally unprepared for any oversight or pushback whatsoever even if it's halfhearted

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

The GOP will win because the eco-
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1065253046513557504

Serf
May 5, 2011


Lawman 0 posted:

The GOP is literally unprepared for any oversight or pushback whatsoever even if it's halfhearted

this is a fine thing to think, but don't get too attached to it

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Serf posted:

this is a fine thing to think, but don't get too attached to it

:hai:

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
how did our rev candidates do this cycle compared to lovely third way neoliberals, serious question

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Bilirubin posted:

You haven't thought of quantum state gerrymandering though brugroffil

:hmmyes:

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


cargo cult posted:

how did our rev candidates do this cycle compared to lovely third way neoliberals, serious question

Not great I don't think

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Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

how old will AOC be in 2024

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