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Polidoro
Jan 5, 2011


Huevo se dice argidia. Argidia!
Ffs stop calling leftist coalitions frente amplio.

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frente_Amplio
Frente Amplio may refer to:

Broad Front (Chile), a political coalition in Chile
Broad Front (Costa Rica), a political party in Costa Rica
Broad Front (Dominican Republic), a political coalition in the Dominican Republic
Broad Front (Peru), a political coalition in Peru
Broad Front (Uruguay), a Uruguayan left-wing coalition of political parties
Broad Progressive Front (Argentina), a political coalition in Argentina (2011-2013)
Broad Front UNEN, a political coalition in Argentina (2013-2015)
Broad Progressive Front, a political coalition in Mexico
Broad Popular Front, a political party in Panama
Broad Front for Democracy, a former political party in Panama


:staredog:

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer
Actually you will find any opposition to Maduro is actually right wing fascists and furthermore,

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

Furia posted:

Actually you will find any opposition to Maduro is actually right wing fascists and furthermore,

I thought the going line was they they're Liberal Capitalists, as opposed to anything ultra-right.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Kokoro Wish posted:

I thought the going line was they they're Liberal Capitalists, as opposed to anything ultra-right.

Por que no los dos dot gif

Chuck Boone
Feb 12, 2009

El Turpial
Yesterday, an opposition politician named Fernando Alban was killed while in SEBIN custody.

The regime first claimed that Alban had jumped out of a bathroom 10th storey window of the SEBIN's Plaza Venezuela headquarters. Later, the Minister of the Interior said that Alban jumped out of a window located in a waiting room. I heard accounts from two of Alban's colleagues and his lawyer saying that he would never have killed himself. His lawyer also wondered why Alban, a prisoner, was on the 10th floor of the SEBIN headquarters in the first place, when the holding cells are located in the basement.

Alban had been in custody since Friday, but as per the SEBIN modus operandi there was no arrest warrant and no one was notified of his arrest, so I don't think anyone knew why he was arrested. The Minister of the Interior said yesterday after announcing his death that Alban had been arrested in connection to the August 4 drone attack.

The UN human rights office is calling for an investigation into Alban's death.

The other news from yesterday is that the IMF is projecting that inflation will hit 10,000,000% at the end of 2019, up from the 1,000,000% projection for this year.

M. Discordia
Apr 30, 2003

by Smythe
Venezuelanalysis and DSA members are very sure that dissidents just fall out of windows all the time and furthermore this proves the inferiority of their character.

https://twitter.com/MikePrysner/status/1050473620047155200

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Please don't make the Venezuela thread about the dsa you freaking weirdo.

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer
I got some interesting insight from a friend of mine that studies law. Apparently the bathroom’s located in Sebin’s tenth floor have no windows so even if he was there for some reason (unsupervised, too) the facts don’t fit the story at all

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Interesting article came out about Venezuela's relationship with Turkey recently. I'm crossposting this from the Middle East thread:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-11/why-erdogan-is-maduro-s-new-bff

Bloomberg posted:

Turkish products—pasta, rice, and corn flour—fill the heavily discounted food packets Venezuelan officials use to maintain political fealty among the increasingly cash-strapped citizenry. The two countries recently announced joint ventures for gold and coal exploration and have begun talks about Turkey investing in Venezuela’s crippled oil industry. And while most big North American and European air carriers have ended service to Venezuela, Turkish Airlines does a three-times-a-week run to Caracas, via Cuba, and plans to step it up to daily flights.

Tons of Venezuelan gold—strip mined in rancid conditions overseen by the military—are being shipped to Turkey for refinement and processing. U.S. officials say some may be making its way to Iran in violation of sanctions on the Islamic Republic.

All told, the deals are further evidence that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s Turkey, a NATO member, may be shifting away from the West toward China, Iran, and Russia. In August, the U.S. imposed sanctions on two Turkish government ministers to pressure Erdogan into releasing an American pastor being held on charges of espionage. Further sanctions are being considered.

When Marshall Billingslea, assistant U.S. treasury secretary for terrorist financing, was in Turkey in late July, he raised the issue of possible gold sales to Iran. “We certainly would be very, very concerned about trying to trade with Iran in gold,” he told reporters in Ankara. “We are tracking large purchases of gold in Turkey these days, and we’re trying to understand why that’s happening.”

Another American official said that the U.S. hasn’t been able to confirm that Venezuelan gold is going to Iran via Turkey but that the U.S. will go after that trade if it’s occurring. With the U.S. threatening economic sanctions and relations deteriorating, Erdogan could be deliberately taunting America with such transactions, the official said. Asked whether its gold was going to Iran via Turkey, the Venezuelan government declined to comment and the Turkish government didn’t respond. In Iran, trade officials didn’t reply, while a foreign ministry official said he knew nothing about the matter.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Furia posted:

I got some interesting insight from a friend of mine that studies law. Apparently the bathroom’s located in Sebin’s tenth floor have no windows so even if he was there for some reason (unsupervised, too) the facts don’t fit the story at all

he was so devoted to committing suicide that he made a comedic Sebin-shaped hole as he sprinted through the wall

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-swiss-bank-executive-sentenced-prison-role-billion-dollar-international-money

A Swiss banker is getting tossed into jail for being part of a money laundering scheme involving the PDVSA and 1.2 billion dollars.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Okay I've come back after a couple of months. Are thing better, just as bad, or worse?

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

AGGGGH BEES posted:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-swiss-bank-executive-sentenced-prison-role-billion-dollar-international-money

A Swiss banker is getting tossed into jail for being part of a money laundering scheme involving the PDVSA and 1.2 billion dollars.

he made the mistake of having a property in Miami (as the colonialist imperialists allege of the defenders of the Bolivarian Revolution) and staying at it, is how he got grabbed

Matthias Krull. Are we sure he's not a James Bond villain?

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

punk rebel ecks posted:

Okay I've come back after a couple of months. Are thing better, just as bad, or worse?

Worse. Always worse

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


"Venezuela is rolling out a new ID card manufactured in China that can track, reward, and punish citizens"

https://www.businessinsider.com/venezuela-id-card-tracks-citizens-like-china-2018-11

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Negrostrike posted:

"Venezuela is rolling out a new ID card manufactured in China that can track, reward, and punish citizens"

https://www.businessinsider.com/venezuela-id-card-tracks-citizens-like-china-2018-11

it'll ensure that scarce resources go to the truly needy and morally upright, rather than to fraudsters and counterrevolutionaries

quote:

The database, according to employees of the card system and screenshots of user data reviewed by Reuters, stores such details as birthdays, family information, employment and income, property owned, medical history, state benefits received, presence on social media, membership of a political party, and whether a person voted.

...

To encourage its adoption, the government has granted cash prizes to cardholders for performing civic duties, like rallying voters.

It has also given one-time payouts, such as awarding moms enrolled in the card a Mother's Day bonus of about $2. The payment, last May, was nearly a monthly minimum wage — enough to buy a carton of eggs, given the current pace of inflation.

Maduro is also taking steps to force the card's adoption. The government now says Venezuelans need it to receive public benefits including medicine, pensions, food baskets, and subsidized fuel.

In August, retirees protested outside social security offices and complained the fatherland rule limits access to hard-won pensions.

Benito Urrea, a 76-year-old diabetic, told Reuters a state doctor recently denied him an insulin prescription and called him "right wing" because he hasn't enrolled.

Like some other Venezuelan citizens, especially those who oppose the Maduro administration, Urrea sees the card with suspicion.

"It was an attempt to control me via my needs," Urrea said in his Caracas apartment. Reuters was unable to contact the doctor.

Using the servers purchased from ZTE, the government is creating a database some citizens fear is identifying Venezuelans who support the government and those who don't.

Some of the information, such as health data, is gathered with card usage. Some is obtained when citizens enroll. Cardholders and local human rights groups told Reuters that administrators ask questions about income, political activities, and social media profiles before issuing the card.

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article221706585.html

One more corrupt oligarch brought low.

Chuck Boone
Feb 12, 2009

El Turpial
I was in Barranquilla last week scoping out the place as a possible field work site for my dissertation. Unofficial figures put the number of Venezuelan migrants in the city at about 125,000, out of a total population of 1.2 million. The Colombian government estimates that there are now over one million Venezuelans living in the country.

I was struck by the fact that every traffic light has a group of Venezuelan people--sometimes 4-5 of them--selling candy bars, water, and fruit to motorists who stop at the red light. I saw a huge migrant tent city in a park and entire families living in bushes on the side of the road. The scope of the situation on the ground there was staggering.

I also had a chance to hang out with a Venezuelan community group that is doing some incredible work in the face of overwhelming odds. I tagged along with them as they handed out free meals to Venezuelan migrants, and wrote about my experience that night.


If anyone ever tells you that there's an economic blockade against Venezuela, they're right: it's been in place for almost two decades now.

That's $1 billion worth of corruption between just two individuals in an operation that spanned just a couple of years.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Chuck Boone posted:

I was in Barranquilla last week scoping out the place as a possible field work site for my dissertation. Unofficial figures put the number of Venezuelan migrants in the city at about 125,000, out of a total population of 1.2 million. The Colombian government estimates that there are now over one million Venezuelans living in the country.

quote:

The Venezuelan exodus continues, as continues the humanitarian precarity in Venezuela, where the population suffers from a shortage of food and medicines. Hence, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has decided to strengthen the humanitarian response at the border crossings of its neighboring countries - Peru, Ecuador and Colombia - in the face of the massive arrival of Venezuelans in recent days to benefit of a temporary permit in the first country that will allow them to live and work legally.

The temporary permit is one of the measures of the Peruvian Government to regulate the migratory situation of the nearly 500,000 Venezuelans who have arrived in the Andean nation in recent years. The main requirement to achieve this is having arrived before October 31, although it may be requested until December 31.
1. drat, that's a lot of Venezuelans.

2. Huh, Google Translate is a lot better than I remember.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Cicero posted:

1. drat, that's a lot of Venezuelans.

2. Huh, Google Translate is a lot better than I remember.

the people working tirelessly on google translate quite frankly own

one of my really good college buddies narrowly didn't get a job with them and is instead doing other natural language black magic

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...a-idUSKCN1OP0RZ

Unsurprisingly, putting the military and some idiot who can't even spell the word petroleum in charge of the oil industry has not produced more oil at all, nor has jailing workers for "sabotage" when poo poo breaks because there arn't enough parts or people who know how to maintain it.

a revolution... of poo poo!?

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

AGGGGH BEES posted:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...a-idUSKCN1OP0RZ

Unsurprisingly, putting the military and some idiot who can't even spell the word petroleum in charge of the oil industry has not produced more oil at all, nor has jailing workers for "sabotage" when poo poo breaks because there arn't enough parts or people who know how to maintain it.

a revolution... of poo poo!?

But I'll bet some military guys and their buddies extracted a lot of money. Which was probably the point.

RagnarokZ
May 14, 2004

Emperor of the Internet

Warbadger posted:

But I'll bet some military guys and their buddies extracted a lot of money. Which was probably the point.

Yeah, whenever Venezuela finally goes tits up, there's gonna be a whole bunch of very rich ex-military guys heading off for some nice quite country.

fnox
May 19, 2013



RagnarokZ posted:

Yeah, whenever Venezuela finally goes tits up, there's gonna be a whole bunch of very rich ex-military guys heading off for some nice quite country.

They're already out there. Not all of them, and not the higher ups, but military officers and their families are everywhere, Florida, Texas, Spain, Italy. They're living it large.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-46513571

Goodyear is ceasing all Venezuelan operations and is giving all its 1200 employees there 10 tires each in addition to their severance pay.

Dunno if that was in their original employment agreement or if its a way to offload exess tires/give employees something that will retain its value in hyperinflation.

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer
No joke ten tires might as well be ten bars of gold in Caracas

A bit strange that it’s ten tires and not say 12 or 8 or some other multiple of 4 but whatever. Motorcycle tires maybe

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Tires are useful for blocking intersections and setting on fire during protests. Goodyear's playing the long game here

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
poo poo, I wish I got tires as part of my severance pay in the US. That's a lot more useful than a few hundred bucks.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


bucks can be exchanged for goods and services

Neophyte
Apr 23, 2006

perennially
Taco Defender
The new tire-backed TreadCoin will save the economy!

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-defense-idUSKCN1P32LQ

The defense minister asked Maduro to resign, or he's going to.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Just to quote the whole article, being somewhat short:

quote:

Venezuela’s defense minister told socialist President Nicolas Maduro to step down last month, and said he would offer his own resignation if he did not, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday, citing an anonymous U.S. intelligence official.

Both Maduro and Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino Lopez are still in office. Maduro is set to be sworn in for a second six-year term on Thursday, though several countries in the region have warned him not to take office, calling his May 2018 re-election vote a sham.

Discontent within the military’s ranks has grown as Venezuela’s economic collapse has deepened, prompting millions to migrate. Security forces tortured dozens of military personnel accused of subversion last year, according to human rights groups, and detentions for desertion have increased.

A U.S. government source told Reuters the government believes reports that Padrino threatened to resign if Maduro did not depart are credible.

“Nobody (in the U.S. government) would be surprised if (Padrino) stepped back,” the source added.

Venezuela’s Information Ministry did not respond to a request for comment.

Seems like a bit of a poo poo or get off the pot situation. Maybe he wanted more money.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

So we've entered the 'troops stop getting paychecks' stage of state failure.

fnox
May 19, 2013



Friendly reminder of what public perception of Venezuela used to be 5 years ago.

My favourite paragraphs are:

quote:

But how can a government with more than $90bn in oil revenue end up with a balance-of-payments crisis? Well, the answer is: it can't, and won't. In 2012 Venezuela had $93.6bn in oil revenues, and total imports in the economy were $59.3bn. The current account was in surplus to the tune of $11bn, or 2.9% of GDP. Interest payments on the public foreign debt, the most important measure of public indebtedness, were just $3.7bn. This government is not going to run out of dollars. The Bank of America's analysis of Venezuela last month recognised this, and decided as a result that Venezuelan government bonds were a good buy.

quote:

One problem is that most of the central bank's reserves are in gold. But gold can be sold, even if it is much less liquid than assets such as US treasury securities. It seems far-fetched that the government would suffer through a balance-of-payments crisis rather than sell its gold.

quote:

Hyperinflation is also a very remote possibility. For the first two years of the economic recovery that began in June 2010, inflation was falling even as economic growth accelerated to 5.7% for 2012. In the first quarter of 2012, it reached a monthly low of just 2.9%. This shows that the Venezuelan economy – despite its problems – is very capable of providing healthy growth even while bringing down inflation.

quote:

• The subheading on this article was amended on 15 November 2013. The original one, not supplied by the author, ended with the words "in this oil-rich country the only thing imploding is poverty". This has now been removed

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe
Goddamn. If maduro and pals had been even slightly competent, they could have run Venezuela on rigged elections and oil money for all eternity.

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...

The article was written by Mark Weisbrot, who co wrote Oliver Stone's documentary on how great Chavismo is.

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-brazil-venezuela-idUKKCN1P60FN

Brazil has recognized the Venezuelan opposition leader as president.

quote:

SAO PAULO (Reuters) - Brazil’s government on Saturday issued a statement saying it recognised Venezuela’s Congressional leader, who opposes President Nicolas Maduro, as the rightful president of Venezuela.

Maduro, who started a second term as president this week, has found himself increasingly isolated as countries around the world have called his continued leadership illegitimate.

Juan Guaido, the head of Venezuela’s opposition-led Congress, said this week he was prepared to assume the country’s presidency on an interim basis and call elections.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

AGGGGH BEES posted:

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-brazil-venezuela-idUKKCN1P60FN

Brazil has recognized the Venezuelan opposition leader as president.

Is this a significant enough event to setoff any sort of chain recognition?

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Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/07/682865392/venezuela-supreme-court-judge-denounces-government-flees-to-u-s

Venezuelan Supreme Court Judge Denounces Maduro Government, Flees To U.S. posted:

A Venezuelan Supreme Court judge who once supported President Nicolás Maduro has fled to the United States and publicly denounced Maduro's re-election days before the inauguration.

Justice Christian Zerpa left Venezuela with his wife and two daughters, according to Miami broadcaster EVTV. Their destination in the U.S. was unclear.

Zerpa met a reporter in Orlando and told the outlet, "I think the president, Nicolás Maduro, does not deserve a second chance because the election he supposedly won was not a free election, was not a competitive election."
. . .
In 2016, following a landslide electoral victory by the opposition, Zerpa helped Maduro consolidate power through a court decision that diminished the powers of Congress, according to Reuters.

"They chose me [for the court] because I was one of the loyal, disciplined members in the United Socialist Party of Venezuela," Zerpa told EVTV.

The Judge gave a long interview with some tv news channel, you can read his reasoning for turning on the government below:

https://evtvmiami.com/confesiones-del-juez-desertor-en-exclusiva-para-evtv/

Venezuelan court is saying he really fled accusations of sexual harassment and the political stuff is all an excuse.

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