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Liquid Communism posted:You've just encountered praxeology in motion, my friend. Do not engage with people who are willing to deny the existence of their own subjective consciousness on pure conjecture assumed as fact. Yeah, I was getting interested in the debate until I realized he is basically not a sane person. I don't know how someone can in good faith argue that they don't have a train of thought going on in their own head while they debate you. Or that a second body who thinks like you do has essentially no value.
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Phenotype posted:I don't know how someone can in good faith argue that they don't have a train of thought going on in their own head while they debate you. Phenotype posted:Or that a second body who thinks like you do has essentially no value.
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could you all please stop Yudding and talk about the fukcing terrible book instead i thank you
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Tiggum posted:I never said anything even close to that. Sure you didn't.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 10:22 |
Please don't make me have to read and understand this thread in order to end whatever the current slapfight is, just end it yourselves
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Chapter 104: The Truth, Pt 1, Riddles and Answers This chapter begins with a Quidditch game in which Yudkowsky attempts humour. I'll spare you and move right along to the point where Harry gets a mysterious message from himself: Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:It was parchment instead of the Muggle paper that Harry would have expected, but the writing on it was his own handwriting, if done with a quill instead of a pen. The parchment said: Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:'The place that is prohibited' would ordinarily mean the Forbidden Forest; that was probably what someone intercepting the message was meant to think. But the Forbidden Forest was huge, and there was more than one distinguished location inside it. No obvious Schelling Point at which to rendezvous, or find some event that needed intervention. Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:Harry was frantically trying to work out who was pretending to be what. Since Professor Quirrell wasn't in on Dumbledore's conspiracy, Severus was pretending to be the evil Potions Master of Hogwarts, who'd been sent here by the Headmaster... and might or might not have actually been sent here by Dumbledore... but Professor Quirrell either thought, or was pretending to think, that someone needed to keep an eye on Professor Snape... and Harry himself had been sent here by future-Harry and had no idea why... and why were they all standing outside the Headmaster's forbidden door in the first place? Elizer Yudkkowsky posted:"We're going to take the whole mirror and send it back to Flamel," said Theodore Nott. "It's not like we want the Stone for ourselves, we just need to stop Dumbledore from stealing it." Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:"Malfoy..." said the pink-haired form of Susan, still gasping for breath. "Draco Malfoy, where are you? Are you there? Call the Aurors already! Merlin drat it - Homenum Revelio! " Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:Slowly, Harry turned around. I glossed over a lot of stuff there so if you want to read the whole chapter you might have a better idea of what;s going on. Or you might not. Reading it didn't do me much good. The whole thing (the chapter, the specific plan contained within it and the whole plot as revealed thus far) is overly complicated and presented in a pretty confusing manner, and I'm certainly not going back to reread past chapters to see if I can put the pieces together.
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# ? Nov 23, 2018 09:18 |
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This chapter is an anti-twist. Some folks were expecting something besides the Quirrel = Voldemort reveal, despite all the very obvious signs. Nope, the obviously evil person was evil, go figure. The confusion is deliberate, since Quirrelmort is trying to hide his movements of going after the Philosophers Stone.
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Added Space posted:This chapter is an anti-twist. Some folks were expecting something besides the Quirrel = Voldemort reveal, despite all the very obvious signs. Nope, the obviously evil person was evil, go figure.
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Added Space posted:The confusion is deliberate, since Quirrelmort is trying to hide his movements of going after the Philosophers Stone. I realise that some level of confusion is intended, but I feel like it was more confusing than it was supposed to be. Like, the reader was supposed to understand that it was a confusing situation for the characters, but still be able to follow what was going on. Whereas I was actually going back and rereading bits three times before giving up and going "ok, some confusing stuff happened and it doesn't matter, I don't give a poo poo."
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Chapter 105: The Truth, Pt 2 So Quirrel/Voldemort has Harry at gunpoint, and makes him drop all his equipment (wand, time turner, bag of holding) and says he's set up a spell that will kill a bunch of students if he doesn't deactivate it - which he can only do once he has the philosopher's stone. There's a bit that presumably relates to the prophecy about Voldemort and Harry not being able to exist in the same world (or whatever it said) but it doesn't reiterate or explain it so it kind of went over my head: Voldemort posted:You have already vanquished the Dark Lord, the one and only time that you will ever do so. I have already destroyed all but a remnant of Harry Potter, eliminating the difference between our spirits and enabling us to reside in the same world. Voldemort posted:When Salazar Slytherin invoked the Parselmouth curse upon himself and all his children, his true plan was to ensure his descendants could trust one another's words, whatever plots they wove against outsiders. Occlumency cannot fool the Parselmouth curse as it can fool Veritaserum, and you may put that to the trial also. Anyway, Harry realises that Voldemort wouldn't be offering him all this unless he really desperately needed his help to get the stone, so he decides to try bargaining, and gets Voldemort to further agree to explain everything that's happened and not kill anyone in the school for a week. He agrees and they set off to get the stone.
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Chapter 106: The Truth, Pt 3 Harry and Voldemort encounter the three-headed dog, and Voldemort quizzes Harry on how he would get past it. Harry starts to come up with a possible answer but Voldemort interrupts him by just Avada Kedavra-ing it, and then criticises Harry for not immediately thinking of that. And that's about all that happens in this chapter. It's mostly just Harry psyching himself up to do... something, but he doesn't know what. That and Voldemort being impatient. Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:The Defense Professor walked over to the three-headed corpse and placed his wand against it. He began a Latin-sounding incantation that was accompanied by a sense of rising apprehension, the Boy-Who-Lived feeling the Dark Lord's power as he always had. He really likes his one-sentence paragraphs, doesn't he?
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# ? Dec 19, 2018 05:54 |
the prose is appalling
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# ? Dec 19, 2018 06:57 |
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I might be mistaken, but I think when I first read that chapter it didn't have the realization that the centaur was undead too. I imagine Big Yud must have added it in supercilious disgust when some/most of his readers failed to connect the dots.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:the prose is appalling Earlier this week Yud posted:
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# ? Dec 29, 2018 13:41 |
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quote:it didn't occur to me that so many people would come in with a strong hypothesis that this story was going to be about "Harry Potter is already rational and so discovers amazing scientific explanations for magic!" THIS WAS LITERALLY YOUR loving PUBLICITY HOOK YOU
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# ? Dec 29, 2018 19:24 |
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I'm just too rational to write stories for regular people, condemned as they are to process events and descriptions without my carefully honed mind.
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# ? Dec 29, 2018 21:56 |
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quote:It is perhaps difficult to convey the extent to which that is obvious at a wordless glance if you are simultaneously fluent in fiction-writing and algorithmic complexity. I wish that this sentence could be engraved as his epitaph. It sums up the man like nothing else I have ever seen, except perhaps his OkCupid profile, and that wouldn't fit. NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Dec 29, 2018 |
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I’m sorry my writing was too high-brow for the proles.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 01:13 |
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divabot posted:THIS WAS LITERALLY YOUR loving PUBLICITY HOOK YOU Yud is not a clever man.
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# ? Dec 31, 2018 03:00 |
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That's a whole shitload of words to basically just say "you can't retcon in explanations for a not-logically-planned system without either adding entirely arbitrary rulekeeping or making the entire canon history of existing characters look super dumb", even though he did both of those anyway with the partial transfiguration stuff.
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# ? Dec 31, 2018 07:58 |
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He's trying way too hard to have his fanfic cake while rationally eating it, and gently caress every attempt to adapt that makes it sound even worse. There's nothing wrong with being new to this and screwing up the first attempt, but that's lot of words covering his rear end. I've seen thunderdome losers eat poo poo more gracefully than Yud. I guess that's an improvement from his earlier responses to critique, at least?
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Chapter 107: The Truth, Pt 4 Remember how Harry travelled back in time to this point? I'd forgotten but it's suddenly relevant again as he now realises that anything that happens can't possibly get the attention of anyone at the quidditch match since that already didn't happen in the future. It's in line with how time travel apparently works in Prisoner of Azakaban, but in this case Harry's tried loving around with time travel in the past and believes that it could cause terrible things to happen if he isn't careful. It's entirely possible that he's wrong about that though and has nothing to worry about. Either way, he's got to try to come up with a plan that won't result in the alarm being raised and the quidditch being interrupted, at least until after the time he originally departed from. Voldemort/Yudkowsky tries to come up with a plausible reason as to why the challenges on the way to the Mirror of Erised are so obviously set up to be beatable by children and settles on the idea that Dumbledore wanted to make it look like he wanted Voldemort to trick a child into attempting them for him in the hope that Voldemort would see through that and not send a child. But he qualifies that by saying that Dumbledore is crazy and unpredictable so it might be a totally different reason. In the room with all the flying keys, rather than using the provided broomstick to catch the right key or simply summoning it to him, Voldemort summons some kind of evil death phoenix to smash through the door. It takes out the giant chess pieces as well. I feel like it's a reference to something but I don't know what, so I'm guessing anime. Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:The Defense Professor raised that wand, and traced in the air a flaming rune that was all jagged edges and malevolence; Harry took another instinctive step back. Then Professor Quirrell spoke. "Az-reth. Az-reth. Az-reth." Then Voldemort kills the boggart in the next room, because killing things unnecessarily shows how eeeevil he is. They pause at Snape's room because Voldemort thinks Snape may be trying some kind of double, triple or quadruple bluff since the apparent solution isn't difficult, just tedious and time-consuming. They also have a brief chat about how Voldemort is able to fly, which is by having the same enchantment that makes broomsticks work cast on his own bones (because the enchanted object must be long and thin like a broom). I don't remember if wizards not being able to fly under their own power was a thing from the books, but it is here and Harry is the first person to ever figure out how he did it, obviously. Eventually they decide to just make the potion as instructed.
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Tiggum posted:I feel like it's a reference to something but I don't know what, so I'm guessing anime. mods, new thread subtitle
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Tiggum posted:I don't remember if wizards not being able to fly under their own power was a thing from the books, but it is here and Harry is the first person to ever figure out how he did it, obviously. In the movies it's a bit muddier since apparition is sometimes treated as a kind of flying.
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Tiggum posted:They also have a brief chat about how Voldemort is able to fly, which is by having the same enchantment that makes broomsticks work cast on his own bones (because the enchanted object must be long and thin like a broom). I don't remember if wizards not being able to fly under their own power was a thing from the books, but it is here and Harry is the first person to ever figure out how he did it, obviously. Turning your bones into brooms (or rather, having someone else do it since apparently wizards can't ride on a broom they've enchanted themself) is a moderately clever solution, but not nearly clever enough. It's a great example of why Yudkowsky's approach is all wrong. He's seen something he perceives as a problem with the source material - Voldemort's inexplicable ability to fly - and he's tried to fix it, but he's more interested in pointing out any perceived deficiencies in the source material than actually improving it. See, if flying were that easy to do, it would have been done before. The idea that Voldemort is not merely the first but the only person to ever think of this solution is wildly implausible. To Yudkowsky this means that every other character is stupid. A far more reasonable answer is that such simple solutions have, in fact, been tried and don't actually work. If no one can figure out how to do something it doesn't mean everyone is dumb, it means that it's very difficult to figure out how to do it. So if you want to answer the question of how Voldemort flies then you need to come up with a solution that is entirely logical and yet so counter-intuitive that the audience can believe that no one would ever have tried it before. This isn't that. It passes the first test, but not the second. It also fails in another important way: it's not possible for the audience to figure it out. We were never given enough information about how brooms work to put this together. Rather than making it a puzzle for readers to figure out (or for readers to feel impressed by when they fail to figure it out) we're just given a solution and told that it's so clever no one solved it. It just makes it seem more obvious, which makes it stand out as even more of a problem because now it feels like everyone who knew how brooms worked should have known how to do this. Which they probably should have.
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# ? Jan 4, 2019 13:20 |
There's actually a pretty neat fan theory about this. Having the flying be based on studying the properties of a body part of a nearly extinct magical creature (especially since it might require the actually extinct European subspecies) would explain why no one else managed it.
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Underwear made of cut-up flying carpets. Nobody else considers doing it because the idea of getting jerked around by the nethers and armpits sounds really uncomfortable compared to a broomstick. But maybe Voldemort is a eunuch (he's already lost fleshy bits on his face) and most wizards wear magically armoured underclothes instead - that's why they can survive getting thrown into walls and nearby explosions.
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# ? Jan 11, 2019 17:26 |
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I always appreciated Voldemort flying because man what a fantastic way to demonstrate how skilled the character is, without needing to shoehorn in some ridiculously lethal spell that kills a billion people or whatever. Unaided flight! Now that's really something remarkable, that neither Dumbledore or Grindewald ever did.
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The Iron Rose posted:I always appreciated Voldemort flying because man what a fantastic way to demonstrate how skilled the character is, without needing to shoehorn in some ridiculously lethal spell that kills a billion people or whatever. Unaided flight! Now that's really something remarkable, that neither Dumbledore or Grindewald ever did. Doesn't he teach Snape how to do it and it's a big spooky moment confirming Snape is definitely 100% bad guy because otherwise Voldemort wouldn't trust him with the secret?
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Cavelcade posted:Doesn't he teach Snape how to do it and it's a big spooky moment confirming Snape is definitely 100% bad guy because otherwise Voldemort wouldn't trust him with the secret? Nope, not as far as I'm aware. Even other death eaters had to use brooms - see the whole chase scene with seven Harrys back in book 7.
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The Iron Rose posted:Nope, not as far as I'm aware. Even other death eaters had to use brooms - see the whole chase scene with seven Harrys back in book 7. You made me research this I hope you're happy: quote:“Unlike Dumbledore, he was still carrying a wand...and he seems to have learned a few tricks from his master.”
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Chapter 108: The Truth, Pt 5, Answers and Riddles They're still making the potion and it's going to take a while, so Voldemort agrees to answer some questions. Harry asks him what actually happened when he [Voldemort] originally tried to kill him [Harry]. Voldemort says that he invented a spell that grants him true immortality. You may have noticed that this doesn't actually answer Harry's question at all. Harry doesn't seem to. Harry guesses that Voldemort's immortality spell requires some kind of physical anchor (like a horcrux but better, obviously), and Voldemort confirms it (in Parseltongue so he supposedly can't be lying). Harry's not immediately ready to discount the possibility of tracking down these super-horcruxes but Voldemort reveals that he's made well over a hundred of them -each one linked to a different murder and hidden somewhere even Voldemort couldn't find it. Voldemort also reveals that he is now essentially a disembodied spirit merely posessing the body of Quirrell. Which should raise the question of why he went to such lengths to keep this body alive if he could, as he claims (in Parseltongue) "return swiftly, if this body is killed". Harry doesn't ask this though or even wonder about it to himself. He does go back to the question of what happened when Voldemort tried to kill him though. Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:"Trelawney's prophecy," Professor Quirrell said. His hand tapped a bellflower with a strip of copper before dropping it in. "I spent long days pondering it, after Snape brought the prophecy to me. Prophecies are never trivial things. And how shall I put this in a way that does not make you think stupid things... well, I shall say it, and if you are stupid I shall be annoyed. I was fascinated by the prophecy's assertion that someone would be my equal, because it might mean that person could hold up the other end of an intelligent conversation. After fifty years of being surrounded by gibbering stupidity, I no longer cared whether my reaction might be considered a literary cliche. I was not about to pass up on that opportunity without thinking about it first. And then, you see, I had a clever idea." Professor Quirrell sighed. "It occurred to me how I might fulfill the Prophecy my own way, to my own benefit. I would mark the baby as my equal by casting the old horcrux spell in such fashion as to imprint my own spirit onto the baby's blank slate; it would be a purer copy of myself, since there would be no old self to mix with the new. In some years, when I had become bored with ruling Britain and moved on to other things, I would arrange with the other Tom Riddle that he should appear to vanquish me, and he would rule over the Britain he had saved. We would play the game against each other forever, keeping our lives interesting amid a world of fools. I knew a dramatist would predict that the two of us would end by destroying each other; but I pondered long upon it, and decided that both of us would simply decline to play out the drama. That was my decision and I was confident that it would remain so; both Tom Riddles, I thought, would be too intelligent to truly go down that road. The prophecy seemed to hint that if I destroyed all but a remnant of Harry Potter, then our spirits would not be so different, and we could exist in the same world." But his plan backfired and instead of him destroying "all but a remnant" of Harry, the opposite happened and he found himself disembodied and stuck inside his super-horcruxes. All of them at once, apparently. He'd thought he'd be able to wander at will as a spirit but it turned out that he needed someone to touch one of the super-horcruxes in order to possess them. Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:"My remaining hope was the horcruxes I had hidden in the hopeless idiocy of my youth. Imbuing them into ancient lockets, instead of anonymous pebbles; guarding them beneath wells of poison in the center of a lake of Inferi, instead of portkeying them into the sea. If someone found one of those, and penetrated their ridiculous protections... but that seemed like a distant hope. I was not sure I would ever be embodied again. Yet at least I was immortal. The worst of all fates had been averted, my great creation had done that much. I had little left to hope for, and little left to fear. I decided that I would not go insane, since there seemed to be no advantage in it. Yeah, insanity is a choice, I guess. And we're not even half way through this chapter yet. Voldemort then claims that he has now overcome the limitation of needing someone to touch his super-horcrux to possess them, and says it's Harry's fault Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:You, boy, you brought that about, you freed my spirit to fly where it pleases and seduce the most opportune victim, by being too casual with your secrets. It is a catastrophe for any who oppose me, and you wrought it with one finger drawing wetness on a tea-saucer. I can't remember what that's about. I'm not going to go back and try to find it, but if anyone remembers what Harry drew then please remind me. Harry then asks about the Philosopher's Stone - if it doesn't anything beside making transfigurations permanent and why it's apparently so hard to duplicate. Voldemort then goes into the story of how Flamel got the Stone from Baba Yaga - and it's loving dumb. I'm not even going to summarise it. He does confirm that permanent transfiguration is its only power but doesn't seem to know why it's so hard to reproduce. The way he tells it it doesn't seem like anyone's ever tried, other than by attempting the fake recipe that Flamel made up. Harry asks why Voldemort killed Hermione and the answer is complicated and dumb. Harry actually does call him out on this but Voldemort excuses that by saying he was basically doing it for funsies and didn't actually care about the outcome that much. It makes sense, I guess, but it's not exactly narratively satisfying. Then Voldemort asks Harry a question: Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:"What gave me away at the last, in the corridor outside these chambers?" Blah blah blah, more exposition, more pointless backstory for events we've long since forgotten about anyway (or at least I have). God this is a long chapter. Severus Snape was made head of Slytherin by Dumbledore in order to undermine and eventually disband the house. Bellatrix was always a psychopath. The Voldemort persona was supposed to be a trial run for his real plan, but people are just so dumb and so goddamn crazy that he ended up being ridiculously successful and had to move his plans forward. And Voldemort kept winning because of how dumb everyone else is. Voldemort, he says, learned that people didn't respect his "good" persona (David Munroe) or Dumbledore, but did respect the bad guys (Voldemort, Lucius Malfoy) because they found the good guys nonthreatening and undemanding. Fear = respect, basically. Apparently the fact that Dumbledore can basically do whatever he likes whenever he likes and anyone who tries to stop him will automatically be opposed by almost everyone is completely undermined by the way people sometimes talk disrespectfully about him behind his back and go unpunished. This next bit's a little odd. Harry suggests that Voldemort should have tested his true immortality spell by getting someone else to cast it, then killing them to see if it worked. Voldemort agrees. Harry says that the reason Voldemort didn't do that is because he never thinks of doing anything nice for anyone else, because it goes against his image of himself as mean and nasty. Voldemort agrees. Where this falls down for me is, forcing someone to risk their life in order to test out your immortality spell isn't nice. The two suggestions are fine individually, but this supposed link between them just doesn't hold up. Then Harry asks Voldemort if he's ever tried being nice and it turns out he has and it brought him no joy. So Harry asks him if being Voldemort made him happy and he says no, but then immediately contradicts himself by saying that actually killing people he perceives to be idiots does make him happy - and it's the only thing that ever has. And then - finally - he finishes the potion and the Q&A session and the chapter are over.
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Tiggum posted:I can't remember what that's about. I'm not going to go back and try to find it, but if anyone remembers what Harry drew then please remind me. I don't remember exactly, but I think Harry gave away how to recognize the ressurection stone. This let Voldemort realize that he had it the whole time (something he never figured out in the books), and could thus use it to project thought-forms of himself from beyond.
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# ? Jan 23, 2019 01:12 |
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Tiggum posted:The Voldemort persona was supposed to be a trial run for his real plan, but people are just so dumb and so goddamn crazy that he ended up being ridiculously successful and had to move his plans forward. And Voldemort kept winning because of how dumb everyone else is. Voldemort is dumb as gently caress and should not have had half the success he had, etc.
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Tiggum posted:The Trump persona was supposed to be a trial run for the cthonic reptile empire’s true plan, but people are just so dumb and so goddamn crazy that Trump ended up being ridiculously successful and so our reptilian overlords had to move their plans forward. Trump kept winning! because of how dumb everyone else is.
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Chapter 109: Reflections They arrive at the Mirror of Erised. Voldemort makes Harry go in first, in the invisibility cloak, to test if there are any more traps, concluding that there aren't. His plan is to have Harry try a bunch of stuff to get the Philosopher's Stone out of the mirror while he stays out of sight since he prefers not to look into the mirror himself. Harry suggests Fiendfyre, so Voldemort has his evil phoenix ram the mirror, which seems to just destroy the phoenix, but also reveals "a sequence of runes in no known alphabet" (although I'm not sure how Harry knows that). Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:"How old is this Mirror?" Harry said in almost a whisper. Voldemort also just casually mentions that before now no one knew the mirror could show a person "an illusion of a world in which one of their desires has been fulfilled", implying that its previously known function was something else entirely. I don't know if that's been mentioned before or if it's coming up for the first time here, but it's obviously a pretty sharp deviation from canon. I guess its main function, as far as HPMoR is concerned, is creating pocket universes? Except that Voldemort also refers to it as a "wish-granting creation", so I don't know. I'm a bit lost. Then Yudkowsky insults his audience: Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:Harry was still concentrating. "Do you think Dumbledore suspects that I am, in his terms, a horcrux of Lord Voldemort, or more generally, that some aspects of my personality were copied off Lord Voldemort?" Even as Harry asked this aloud, he realized what a dumb question it was, and how much completely blatant evidence he'd already seen that - Anyway, the upshot of this is that Harry suspects that any trap placed on the mirror intended to catch Voldemort - and Voldemort is certain there is one - will also catch him, since he kind of is Voldemort. Voldemort agrees. Then they kind of just stand around trying to come up with potential solutions to the unknown puzzle they assume has been placed before them. Harry suggests the actual solution from the original books as too easy because Yudkowsky can't let an opportunity go by to brag about how much smarter he is than a book for children. They come up with some other ideas, but it's not clear what parameters they're basing their strategies on because neither of them actually knows how the mirror works. Harry's basically never heard anything about it other than what Voldemort's told him, and Voldemort has, by his own admission, only read implausible and contradictory accounts. The plan they eventually decide on is a bit hard to summarise so Ill just quote it. Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:"Arguendo," Harry said. "We're not sure what's necessary to retrieve the Stone. But a sufficient condition should involve Albus Dumbledore, or maybe someone else, in a state of mind where they believe that the Dark Lord has been defeated, that the threat is over, and that it is time to take out the Stone and give it back to Nicholas Flamel. We aren't sure which part of that person's state of mind, let's say Dumbledore's, will be the necessary part that he thinks Lord Voldemort can't understand or duplicate; but under those conditions Dumbledore's entire state of mind will be sufficient."
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I like how his definition of a 'rational' sufficient reason is based on wild-rear end guessing while the sensible answer would be "the stone was never here at all, because who baits a villain with the actual prize he's hunting."
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DACK FAYDEN posted:In a very minor defense of Big Yud, this part right here makes complete sense. Much like current day British (and US) politics, all it took was one dumb, crazy fucker whose only lust is for power and loving people over therewith and a ton of monied aristocrats eager to line up behind anyone who would keep their dwindling inbred houses at the top of the social order.
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Liquid Communism posted:Much like current day British (and US) politics, all it took was one dumb, crazy fucker whose only lust is for power and loving people over therewith and a ton of monied aristocrats eager to line up behind anyone who would keep their dwindling inbred houses at the top of the social order. Yeah that part at least was goddamn prescient.
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