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Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
Holy loving poo poo at Trump trying to law-splain laws to a supreme court judge.

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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Noted right-wing shithead Laura Loomer has been banned from twitter.

https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1065381870068736005
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1065382075870703616

https://vtt.tumblr.com/tumblr_paxwk7agv71w5pr9j.mp4

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

I hope this is the tineline where Donnie's sister judge is used as a chess piece to ratfuck Donnie. ( I think theres bad blood between him and his siblings and othen then some z list Trump cousin that has a rare talking head appearence on Fox, itd just Donnie and his kids and wife #89239832879)

e:


its almost as if elections arent the super bowl and shouldnt be reported like it is.

PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Nov 22, 2018

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1065403512559992832

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!
So let me get this straight: gas prices spiked right when Trump dumped the Iran deal, and now (at least in my neck of the woods) they're at "only slightly worse than they were before that happened."

And of course to some extent that's natural price movement, since nixing the deal happened right before summer, and it's almost winter now. So he's both taking credit for all that, and the credit he's taking is "I screwed things up massively, and now it's only a little worse than if I'd done nothing!"

Art of the Deal.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004


????????????

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Uncle Wemus posted:

????????????

100% a Fox News segment about holiday traffic.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Otherkinsey Scale posted:

So let me get this straight: gas prices spiked right when Trump dumped the Iran deal, and now (at least in my neck of the woods) they're at "only slightly worse than they were before that happened."

And of course to some extent that's natural price movement, since nixing the deal happened right before summer, and it's almost winter now. So he's both taking credit for all that, and the credit he's taking is "I screwed things up massively, and now it's only a little worse than if I'd done nothing!"

Art of the Deal.

Also don't the gas prices typically go down around now because of the whole "winter blend" thing?

Slo-Tek
Jun 8, 2001

WINDOWS 98 BEAT HIS FRIEND WITH A SHOVEL

Taerkar posted:

Also don't the gas prices typically go down around now because of the whole "winter blend" thing?

Yes, King Canute is claiming credit for the raising and lowering of the tides.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
1https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1065074458556329985
2https://twitter.com/nature/status/1064694083090812928?s=19
3https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1065332060385091585
4https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1065462889895682058
5https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1065370880958767104
6https://twitter.com/WSJPolitics/status/1065378354529017858
7https://twitter.com/NickMiroff/status/1065449698184564736
8https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1065368996990672896
9https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1065238928133898240
10https://twitter.com/HenryJGomez/status/1065395899659104257
11https://twitter.com/LFFriedman/status/1065298109134192641
12https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1065451130908487680
13https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1065468107081347072
14https://twitter.com/olgaNYC1211/status/1065444555019956224
15https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1065466763155042305
16https://twitter.com/NYTNational/status/1065460628532486145
17https://twitter.com/davidwhitford/status/1065451944938999808
18https://twitter.com/funder/status/1065075453243854850
19https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1065396393748111361
20https://twitter.com/AndyMarlette/status/1065343158983249929
https://i.imgur.com/y7JE7WQ.gifv

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
https://twitter.com/olgaNYC1211/status/1065444555019956224

Brown Moses notches his biggest score yet.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004





I live right across the lake from Ohio and I honestly never knew it was suffering the same fate as our maritime provinces with young people fleeing in huge numbers. Is it a recent phenomena or has the state slowly been building up to this event? Are there any other states in a similar situation?

Its hard enough to deal with up here with multiple parties, I cant imagine how much harder it would be in your system for the Dems to even begin to tackle that kind of drastic demographics shift.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Furnaceface posted:

I live right across the lake from Ohio and I honestly never knew it was suffering the same fate as our maritime provinces with young people fleeing in huge numbers. Is it a recent phenomena or has the state slowly been building up to this event? Are there any other states in a similar situation?

Its hard enough to deal with up here with multiple parties, I cant imagine how much harder it would be in your system for the Dems to even begin to tackle that kind of drastic demographics shift.

A lot of states in that region around the Great Lakes, which we generally refer to as "The Rust Belt," are seeing major flight by young people because there are no opportunities for them in the area. In addition to Ohio, western New York, western Pennsylvania, Kentucky, northern Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan are losing a lot of their youth populations due to lack of jobs. Kansas is also in this club due to its unique skullfucking by conservative economic experiments ruining the state enough that they elected a Democrat governor this midterm. Certain other states are also losing young people due to the "glass ceiling," issue of high cost of living and high competition for the jobs that can actually sustain that cost. Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey and some parts of California and New York have this issue.

A lot of these young people are ending up in the places where there is a good compromise between current opportunity, growth potential and still-reasonable cost of living. Most of these places are in the west, which is why urban-spawl California, Washington, Oregon, Colorado and New Mexico have become ever-more deep blue, Nevada has gone from purple to blue, and Arizona and Texas are going from Red to Pink or even Purple. Similar effects are being seen in the urbanizing southern states, especially Georgia and North Carolina, which is why those states are tilting blue as well. I think Minnesota and Virginia are also in this club, which is why they're getting bluer.

Also based on a couple articles I read a lot of people are heading for Vermont. I guess their experiment in paying people to live there if they telecommute to other states is working.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
with minnesota (which hillary only won by a rat's rear end hair in 2016) there's also the question about whether the increasing blue tilt of the twin cities' burbs can outpace the increasing chudification of the large rural portions of the state, given how we ended up trading MN-01 and MN-08 for MN-02 and MN-03

UCS Hellmaker
Mar 29, 2008
Toilet Rascal
I do wonder if in the next ten years you may see the opposite, companies and people moving back into more rust belt states due to the lower intial start-up costs and cost of living. The biggest problem with Ohio is that it's majorly manufacturing focused and then healthcare. We don't have a real tech industry that can compete with Cali or New York. It is getting to the point where companies are backstabbing each other for actual trained and qualified manufacturing workers and if it keeps up we will see other opportunities. The only issue is manufacturing tends to self select for uh racist assholes since it is pure blue collar work.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
thats doubtful given that time a car maker went back to Canada because a poo poo whole state was too illiterate and couldnt use all text training manuals.

The more likely scenario is they throw enough money to import educated workers into their neo Company Town. Which is fine as long as birthright citizen ship is a thing.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Furnaceface posted:

I live right across the lake from Ohio and I honestly never knew it was suffering the same fate as our maritime provinces with young people fleeing in huge numbers. Is it a recent phenomena or has the state slowly been building up to this event? Are there any other states in a similar situation?

Its hard enough to deal with up here with multiple parties, I cant imagine how much harder it would be in your system for the Dems to even begin to tackle that kind of drastic demographics shift.

It should be pointed out that this is only happening around Cleveland. Central Ohio is experiencing explosive population growth and a dive bombing average age. People go to OSU and they never move back because of the amount of companies hiring in Columbus. Cincinnati has a similar retention rate with it's college graduates.

People have no reason to ever stay or go back to Cleveland unless they're already too old to move. They've completely failed to improve the inner city as quickly as Cincy and Columbus, so no companies are starting up or moving there.

Xombie fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Nov 22, 2018

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
at your stupid avatar
so
have a cool cat instead.

:v:
Switchblade Switcharoo
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1065641626914168838

JasonV
Dec 8, 2003

BREAKING: President Trump threatens to blargh blargh blargh blargh blargh blargh.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

with minnesota (which hillary only won by a rat's rear end hair in 2016) there's also the question about whether the increasing blue tilt of the twin cities' burbs can outpace the increasing chudification of the large rural portions of the state, given how we ended up trading MN-01 and MN-08 for MN-02 and MN-03

This is a good point. The growing urban-rural divide in the northern mid-west is probably the biggest challenge the Democrats are going to face in terms of presidential politics in the coming decade. If Ohio is as far gone as it seems and Florida is not far behind, Minnesota, Michigan and Wisconsin are absolutely crucial to any democratic electoral strategy. Shoring up bulwarks in Iowa and Pennsylvania to make those safer states, and pushing hard to flip North Carolina, Georgia and Arizona are also keys. All of these states except maybe Penn have the same urban/rural split issue, but it's not an insurmountable one.




Jinkies gang, this stock market volatility sure is a mystery. Maybe Old Man Trump who runs this haunted amusement park has some ideas about what's causing it?

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

There's something morbidly amusing about the fact that Trump couldn't take Thanksgiving off from being a racist monster and just repeating some nonsense about thanks, family, football*, and troops but instead did an actual "lets do the opposite of the bs Thanksgiving legend message".

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

Furnaceface posted:

I live right across the lake from Ohio and I honestly never knew it was suffering the same fate as our maritime provinces with young people fleeing in huge numbers. Is it a recent phenomena or has the state slowly been building up to this event? Are there any other states in a similar situation?

Its hard enough to deal with up here with multiple parties, I cant imagine how much harder it would be in your system for the Dems to even begin to tackle that kind of drastic demographics shift.
As an Ohio native and refugee who escaped in 2012 I lately wondered if they're is enough interest for an entire thread about what the problems it in Ohio are. The situation in Ohio is extremely complex and basically you can find an exaggerated version of many problems that are impacing other portions of the country, but they're all more pronounced in Ohio. For example:

UCS Hellmaker posted:

I do wonder if in the next ten years you may see the opposite, companies and people moving back into more rust belt states due to the lower intial start-up costs and cost of living. The biggest problem with Ohio is that it's majorly manufacturing focused and then healthcare. We don't have a real tech industry that can compete with Cali or New York. It is getting to the point where companies are backstabbing each other for actual trained and qualified manufacturing workers and if it keeps up we will see other opportunities. The only issue is manufacturing tends to self select for uh racist assholes since it is pure blue collar work.

By far the greatest concentration of industry and population in Ohio is in the northeast corner of the state- but at the moment it's actually quite hard for industry or businesses to move into that area and get established. One of the big reasons for this is one of the unforeseen compounding impacts of the complete or near total lack of any form of public transportation in most of Northeast Ohio.

I need to explain how most of Northeast Ohio is structured first off, it's a huge stretch of suburban and occasional moderately-rural areas with occasional 10 square (city) block concentrations of commercial areas. There are parts of Northeast Ohio where you can be at a major mall*, and there is another major Mall in all the compass directions within a 5-mile radius, and those models also have another major mall basically within 5 miles of all their compass directions too. There's probably a roughly hundred and forty mile Stretch of the northeastern corner of Ohio that is more or less like this.

The reason that the lack of public transportation is a major problem in sprawl like this is that 1.) every adult needs their own personal vehicle and 2. This means that basically everywhere that humans go needs a large enough parking lot to accommodate one car per human being. Every commercial location needs a full-size parking lot capable of handling traffic on their busiest day of the year. Every large employer needs a parking lot capable of handling a vehicle for every employee they have. Every house needs a garage and every apartment complex needs plenty of space to handle the two to three cars a family of four probably has. As a result everywhere in northeastern Ohio has these absolutely gigantic (and these days mostly empty) parking lots that cause everything to be incredibly spread out and inconvenient. You need a car to get by in Northeast Ohio not just because there are no sidewalks and no buses and no trains- you need a car because everywhere you need to (from a grocery store in your budget range to the doctors office) get to is at least 10 to 15 miles away from each other- and often double that.

Compounding this problem is the massive numbers of effectively empty and abandoned industrial parks that are crumbling away. If you want to take over and refurbish an industrial park in Ohio you're looking at some major expenses because everything has often just been left to rot.** The result of the combination of these factors is that Ohio starts to look a lot less attractive to relocate to once you start crunching the actual numbers on the Practical Logistics of how your operation will function in northeast Ohio.


*in fairness many if these malls are basically closed now.

**One quick example: When the Carousel Dinner Theater in Akron(one of the largest in North America at the time) closed it was simply abandoned. Its roof collapsed a few years later and rainwater created an indoor artificial pond in the orchestra pit and lower portions of the house. This pond eventually became such a massive source of mosquitos that the city was forced to intervene.

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!
So, uh, did this get brought up already? Because it seems concerning

https://twitter.com/drjohnhorgan/status/1065059937485754374?s=21

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Wouldn't closing southern border have huge economic impact? Isn't there tons of cargo coming back and forth in trucks every day?

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Literal Al-Queda in English, awesome.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Zwabu posted:

Wouldn't closing southern border have huge economic impact? Isn't there tons of cargo coming back and forth in trucks every day?

Of course.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Zwabu posted:

Wouldn't closing southern border have huge economic impact? Isn't there tons of cargo coming back and forth in trucks every day?

Yes. Life in border cities such as El Paso would basically come to a grinding halt.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
It’s almost as if Trump doesn’t think his tweets through.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Anyway, yeah, he isn't gonna do jack poo poo about the border, and even if he does, he'll get kicked in the face again by the courts.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

There are people with way more money than Donny who will absolutely push his poo poo in if he does it without warrant. He has none, so the courts won't let him.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Thaddius the Large posted:

So, uh, did this get brought up already? Because it seems concerning

https://twitter.com/drjohnhorgan/status/1065059937485754374?s=21

Awesome, glad we've cut funding to countering domestic terrorism.

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
at your stupid avatar
so
have a cool cat instead.

:v:
Switchblade Switcharoo
https://twitter.com/MrDanZak/status/1065630281061855233

https://twitter.com/IrateMillenial/status/1065636387179937798

Kale
May 14, 2010


The guys actually managed to reach cartoon villain levels of narcissism since becoming president to the point where I just can't take it seriously as anything other than desperate. I really can't wait for the day the world doesn't have to listen to this guys bleating and obsession with self worth. It's kind of depressing in it's own right. Like happy thanksgiving troop fuckers, blahblahblah immigrants bad and I'm the greatest.

I like how even John Kirby was like "Yeah well you know Trump gonna Trump so are we really at all surprised". The only thing I kind of want to know out of all this is where is it that his base continues to get this idea that he cares about them even remotely anyway? He still does those rallies but it has absolutely nothing to do with them, it's about him getting to be the center of attention on a stage. Aka the only thing he ever liked about the idea of being President while they just look dumb and confused as all gently caress in the background and like they need a cue at every turn to tell them when to cheer, boo and chant. Other than that he just shits on people daily and embarrasses himself and the White House with how childish he is about literally everything as he closes out year 2.

Kale fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Nov 22, 2018

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

Kale posted:

The guys actually managed to reach cartoon villain levels of narcissism since becoming president to the point where I just can't take it seriously as anything other than desperate. I really can't wait for the day the world doesn't have to listen to this guys bleating and obsession with self worth. It's kind of depressing in it's own right. Like happy thanksgiving troop fuckers, blahblahblah immigrants bad and I'm the greatest.

I like how even John Kirby was like "Yeah well you know Trump gonna Trump so are we really at all surprised". The only thing I kind of want to know out of all this is where is it that his base continues to get this idea that he cares about them even remotely anyway? He still does those rallies but it has absolutely nothing to do with them, it's about him getting to be the center of attention on a stage. Aka the only thing he ever liked about the idea of being President while they just look dumb and confused as all gently caress in the background and like they need a cue at every turn to tell them when to cheer, boo and chant. Other than that he just shits on people daily and embarrasses himself and the White House with how childish he is about literally everything as he closes out year 2.

They don't care as long as it makes the libs mad. That's all they give a poo poo about, seriously

Kale
May 14, 2010

rscott posted:

They don't care as long as it makes the libs mad. That's all they give a poo poo about, seriously

I've kind of started to notice after 2 years that that seems to be the sole guiding policy of the United States. Antagonize the other side of a political divide constantly and daily for no actual gains as a society on the national or even world stage, but call the country the "United" states. We're just not making anywhere near as much progress as a species during the 21st century as we were during the last decades of the 20th, which is impressive since most of that was spent with two super powers engaged in a cold war. Like it's entirely self inflicted.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Kale posted:

I've kind of started to notice after 2 years that that seems to be the sole guiding policy of the United States. Antagonize the other side of a political divide constantly and daily for no actual gains as a society on the national or even world stage, but call the country the "United" states. We're just not making anywhere near as much progress as a species during the 21st century as we were during the last decades of the 20th, which is impressive since most of that was spent with two super powers engaged in a cold war. Like it's entirely self inflicted.

iPhone, Gay Marriage, Twitter President.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-comey-subpoena-house-republicans-loretta-lynch_us_5bf6cf64e4b0771fb6b6c6b5

James Comey Responds To Subpoena From Republicans: ‘Let’s Invite Everyone To See’

Booourns
Jan 20, 2004
Please send a report when you see me complain about other posters and threads outside of QCS

~thanks!


Maybe instead Mexico should close it's border with the states until it can control the flow of guns heading down there

JasonV
Dec 8, 2003

Thaddius the Large posted:

So, uh, did this get brought up already? Because it seems concerning

https://twitter.com/drjohnhorgan/status/1065059937485754374?s=21

Somewhere there's a Russian Troll telling his friends, "I convinced a bunch of wanna-be Nazi's to become full on terrorists and call themselves al-Qaeda. Seriously."

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

JasonV posted:

Somewhere there's a Russian Troll telling his friends, "I convinced a bunch of wanna-be Nazi's to become full on terrorists and call themselves al-Qaeda. Seriously."

I don’t know if I want to start laughing or crying first.

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Your Boy Fancy
Feb 7, 2003

by Cyrano4747

JasonV posted:

Somewhere there's a Russian Troll telling his friends, "I convinced a bunch of wanna-be Nazi's to become full on terrorists and call themselves al-Qaeda. Seriously."

I thought Al Qaeda translated to The List.

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