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ishikabibble posted:have you seen I saw a few videos of people playing it for about 15 minutes. It seemed and it mostly looks/feels like modern Fallout game we've had before with an extra level of features. I get a strange 'last gen' vibe to it that I can't really nail down. But from what I recall they were showing off a compilation of clips where they seemed to be having fun while also acknowledging, "Yeah, there is some broken stuff in this game and it's not very good." It does feel like a game that had it come out instead of FO4 a few years ago, the reception would be better in general because back then the push for MP Fallout was probably a lot higher and I think most of the problems would have been excused more easily. Also, in the time since we've maybe the overall market popularity of Fallout has been eroded in the last few years in the wake of other online games and FO feels like it's grown from being just a game to a larger overall overexposed brand of merchandise that might be souring people to it, in general. I'll admit, a LOT of my continued interest in the FO franchise comes a LOT more from the FO1/2 games than the Post-FO3 stuff.
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I'm always surprised when people day 1 buy Bethesda games. Or buy them at all, really.
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:I'm always surprised when people day 1 buy Bethesda games. Or buy them at all, really. Didn't Bethesda have a fairly good track record of relatively short reveal times and limited non-game footage before their games were set to come out, as well as a bit more of a, "What you see is more or less what you're going to get' attitude? As opposed to other companies that promote games at trade shows that are set to release 1-4 years later, if at all.
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Nov 22, 2018 14:21
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JediTalentAgent posted:I saw a few videos of people playing it for about 15 minutes. It seemed and it mostly looks/feels like modern Fallout game we've had before with an extra level of features. Extra level of features nobody wanted, for which they removed or severely restricted literally all the other levels of features. Well, that's not fair, they expanded the base building aspect, which was borderline unusable even with mods, and probably still is.
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JediTalentAgent posted:From everything I see of FO76, it looks like what I'd expect an online Fallout experience to look like and it looks okay. I've got three friends atm playing it (one is an FO vet) who admit it's janky as hell and kinda bad but are still having a ton of fun with it. I think this opinion pretty much summarizes theirs.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Didn't Bethesda have a fairly good track record of relatively short reveal times and limited non-game footage before their games were set to come out, as well as a bit more of a, "What you see is more or less what you're going to get' attitude? I don't know about any of the marketing, but the games being exactly as revealed (with no surprises or extra frills) is part of the problem. Their games are only bearable with mods.
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guys what if the terribly broken cash-in game that nobody asked for, you know, the one that you can't uninstall the demo for without paying $60 for the full game....what if it's secretly good and everyone complaining about it is just wrong? i watched 15 minutes of the game on YouTube so im p much an expert here
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Nov 22, 2018 15:47
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People who say its worth the $60 because they had fun are bad with money
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Nov 22, 2018 15:54
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Fried Watermelon posted:People who say its worth the $60 because they had fun are bad with money I agree fully with this. Not that its for us to judge people having fun but cmon. Ive bought plenty games full price and sold them on at a nominal loss. Heck just this week i sold Dragon quest 11 and call of duty for a net loss of 8 quid. Both games i just don't see myself spending time to play.
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Nov 22, 2018 15:58
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:I'm always surprised when people day 1 buy Bethesda games. Or buy them at all, really. Now this is a loving hot take considering they made some of the most successful and critically acclaimed games of the past 10 years.
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zapplez posted:Now this is a loving hot take considering they made some of the most successful and critically acclaimed games of the past 10 years. Yeah but that is 100% because of mods. Between waiting for the mods that make the games fun and the general bugginess, waiting a couple of weeks for bethesda games to work themselves out seems like a much smarter step that buying Day 1 and inevitably getting boned ona subquest because your quest item fell through the floor.
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I will buy every single bethesda game day 1 and have a much better time than some nerd who waits 6 months to get realistic trees and slightly better water lol
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CrRoMa posted:I will buy every single bethesda game day 1 and have a much better time than some nerd who waits 6 months to get realistic trees and slightly better water lol Nah, it's bigger stuff than that. I don't really care about the graphics or "realistic water" like the uber nerds, I care about stuff like the combat being bearable (Oblivion/Skyrim), or getting rid of dumb poo poo like instant kill animations (Skyrim). Bethesda games are saved completely by their mods. The Fallout games require this to a less degree than the TES series, but they make up for this by doing stuff like making the big radioactive zone in FO4 completely inconsequential outside of one NPC. And it's the coolest area in the game. Buy what you want obviously, but it's super frustrating that they release what is effectively a "mostly finished" experience that depends on modders to fill in the gaps.
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Nov 22, 2018 16:36
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zapplez posted:Now this is a loving hot take considering they made some of the most successful and critically acclaimed games of the past 10 years. Which speaks of the quality of critics, not Bethesda games.
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Nov 22, 2018 16:38
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Bust Rodd posted:Yeah but that is 100% because of mods. Between waiting for the mods that make the games fun and the general bugginess, waiting a couple of weeks for bethesda games to work themselves out seems like a much smarter step that buying Day 1 and inevitably getting boned ona subquest because your quest item fell through the floor. No, the average dummy who plays Skyrim on console in 2018 probably barely knows mods exist. He's just easily pleased.
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Average dummy here, fully enjoyed unmodded Skyrim and FO4
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a bone to pick posted:the new spider-man game is an absolute disappointment although the story is actually quite good Said it earlier, but Sunset Overdrive is way better.
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I just don't know how somebody can play Skyrim, wander up to a dragon to initiate combat, and get instantly murked by an insta-kill animation and think "now this is gameplay." This is the same company that released the horse armor DLC we're talking about here.
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Nov 22, 2018 16:42
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How about instead of installing mods you just played one of the thousand other videogames out there?
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:I just don't know how somebody can play Skyrim, wander up to a dragon to initiate combat, and get instantly murked by an insta-kill animation and think "now this is gameplay." mad cause bad
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SpazmasterX posted:Average dummy here, fully enjoyed unmodded Skyrim and FO4 This is a troll free zone, friend.
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Nov 22, 2018 16:46
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man imagine what this thread would smell like if it were a room irl
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:I just don't know how somebody can play Skyrim, wander up to a dragon to initiate combat, and get instantly murked by an insta-kill animation and think "now this is gameplay." Don't the insta kill animations only play if you were to die in one hit by an attack anyways?
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Fried Watermelon posted:Don't the insta kill animations only play if you were to die in one hit by an attack anyways? From what I remember it happens if the enemy has the potential to kill you in one hit, or performs an attack that could do it. Like you might be able to dodge or block the blow, but the game sees that the attack *could* kill you and wrests control away and makes you die. You do this as the player too sometimes.
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SpazmasterX posted:Average dummy here, fully enjoyed unmodded Skyrim and FO4 I also did these things
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Bethesda gets a pass from tons of people on their lack of QA and not fixing bugs for years in official patches despite having already been patched by fans, while From got heavily criticized for the same poo poo regarding the PC version of Dark Souls and the persistence of bugs fixed in fan patches that were still present in the remastered version. My apparently unpopular opinion is that that's hugely bullshit and Bethesda's QA should not be defended by anyone
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signalnoise posted:Bethesda gets a pass from tons of people on their lack of QA and not fixing bugs for years in official patches despite having already been patched by fans, while From got heavily criticized for the same poo poo regarding the PC version of Dark Souls and the persistence of bugs fixed in fan patches that were still present in the remastered version. My apparently unpopular opinion is that that's hugely bullshit and Bethesda's QA should not be defended by anyone this isn't an unpopular opinion, at all
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Bethesda has managed to convince people that their cheaping out on QA and other bullshit is in fact "QuIrKy".
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:I just don't know how somebody can play Skyrim, wander up to a dragon to initiate combat, and get instantly murked by an insta-kill animation and think "now this is gameplay." This has never happened to me 
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steinrokkan posted:Bethesda has managed to convince people that their cheaping out on QA and other bullshit is in fact "QuIrKy". which is why FO:76 bombing so insanely bad is awesome, Bethesda is going to get shuttered and we'll never have to listen to people pretend that the 3D fall out games were good ever again.
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Nov 22, 2018 18:03
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Fallout is dead, long live wasteland.
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Nov 22, 2018 18:09
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The Dennis System posted:Steam autumn sale is on! Who gives a poo poo
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Who gives a poo poo That's why he posted it here.
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FoolyCharged posted:That's why he posted it here. sorry I tend to treat this thread as general video game chat but he's correct, carry on
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CrRoMa posted:How about instead of installing mods you just played one of the thousand other videogames out there? Because no other games do what the Elder Scrolls games do but tell me about some
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Which should I get, metal Gear survive or Fallout 4 tia
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Sid Vicious posted:Which should I get, metal Gear survive or Fallout 4 tia Red Dead Redemption 2
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