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JBP posted:I find this amazing that they can't get candidates. They've got so many female councillors. Local government is significantly less dirty politics. This election has been dirty and will make everyone who isn't a lawyer, born rich with parents who kept them in line to protect their future, or just lucky enough to have been extremely boring think thrice before putting their name down. The good thing might be proper disclosure from those who are keen, the bad thing will be cutting a lot of voices out of participation due to fear.
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Solemn Sloth posted:They have no money, they’re being infiltrated by Mormons and ultra conservative christians who are odious to the electorate, and they have absolutely zero talent left. Remember that we all once thought that Tony Abbott would be odious to the electorate.
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/23/business-council-excoriates-coalitions-ad-hoc-and-extreme-energy-policies Even the Coalition's biggest flag wavers, the Business Council of Australia, are now against Morrison and his energy policies Anidav posted:I want Guy to win so this thread can explode and me and GSC can eat popcorn. I want Dandrews to win to continue Victoria as the best state in this racist drought ridden poo poo hole of a country Recoome posted:ABC are quoting different polling, which suggests DAndrews will win.
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Recoome posted:ABC are quoting different polling, which suggests DAndrews will win. You Am I posted:I think the head line is supposed to say "It is Dan's election to lose". Kinda trying the John Hewson "Losing the unloseable election" hoodoo It says Dan is to lose.
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Doesn't "the editor" usually write a screaming puff piece on who to vote for by now?
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Anidav posted:Doesn't "the editor" usually write a screaming puff piece on who to vote for by now? Can’t you just ask him in the next cubicle over?
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Anidav posted:What are the newspaper endorsements? The Age: Return Dan Andrews for a second term.
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AgentF posted:Remember that we all once thought that Tony Abbott would be odious to the electorate. He was and is, he won despite his popular appeal not because of it. If Labor didn’t utterly poo poo their pants on multiple occasions they probably could have won despite the massive mining industry and media attacks
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Anidav posted:Doesn't "the editor" usually write a screaming puff piece on who to vote for by now? I think that usually happens on the Saturday? By then people have well and truly made up their minds, or already been to the ballot box
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Isn't Rupert's Rant the day before election day? At least that's what I thought the usual situation was.
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HUN two page editorial ends with: "Tomorrow's vote will decide this state's direction and prosperity. On the balance the Herald Sun advocates for a vote in favour of Matthew Guy and the Liberals, to ensure Victoria makes the most of the challenges and opportunities ahead." This is after a bunch of poo poo about radical greens and the usual junk.
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JBP posted:This is after a bunch of poo poo about radical greens and the usual junk. I didn't know you ghost-wrote for the HUN editorial.
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Anyone have a good suggestion for a webcrawler to download content (including setting how many links deep to go)? It would be really handy for me to be able to automatically grab all the election commitments off the parties websites before they get nuked
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clusterfuck posted:I didn't know you ghost-wrote for the HUN editorial. Greens have good policy, the only thing radical about them is the lack of internal discipline.
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So the stuff about Labor supporting the NEG isn't 100% right because I remember the NEG being a piece of garbage because it locked in coal emissions but Shorten's saying he's ruling out support for coal? So this isn't the original unedited NEG? What exactly is going on here?
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Sounds like some good old fashion politicking to me.
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Anidav posted:I want Guy to win so this thread can explode and me and GSC can eat lobstet.
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JBP posted:Greens have good policy, the only thing radical about them is the lack of internal discipline. Painfully fair comment.
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AgentF posted:So the stuff about Labor supporting the NEG isn't 100% right because I remember the NEG being a piece of garbage because it locked in coal emissions but Shorten's saying he's ruling out support for coal? So this isn't the original unedited NEG? What exactly is going on here? They don't want to piss off the resources industry. They edited the NEG to exclude coal but include Gas which means the resources lobby won't run ads about Bill Shorten killing country towns ect. Then they will introduce a climate change policy on top of the NEG which is rumoured to be a ETS. Basically it's a Frankenstein stitched together to get a emissions trading scheme on the table without pissing off the Gillard/Rudd slaying war machine. That's how I understand it.
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And now the ALP has the industry on side robbing the LNP of an ally come election time.
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The Tally Room's podcast has an interesting round up of the state of play in the Victorian election here As others have said, vote below the line this election, you only have to name 5 preferences and that will take care of 99% of the problem. Interesting things from the podcast: * Andrews says he won't work with the Greens but what if there ends up a significant number in either house? ALP are much happier dealing with a rag-tag bunch of minor righties than a block of Greens. * Can the Greens keep Prahan? Has anyone got any scuttlebutt about shenanigans there? Can the Greens in fact improve their showing in Melbourne metro seats and give Andrews a scare? * Bentleigh, Mordialloc, Carrum and Frankston are seats that are usually won by the winning party in Victorian elections going back some years. ALP seem to be polling well there, but can LNP take one or two?
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ewe2 posted:
The Greens have run a really strong field campaign in Prahran. My guts tell me that the state-wide unpopularity of the Liberals and Prime Minister ScoMo will work against the Liberals in this electorate. They're Turnbull Tories here. Labor are of course popular across the state but I'm not sure how that will translate in Prahran. In terms of local campaigning Labor appear to be less visible and active than the Greens and Liberals. It was super marginal last time, so who knows?
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I think the liberals might win Prahran. Not basing this on anything. Gut feeling.
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The Greens candidate stood down over rape allegations just two days before Saturday's state election has been identified as Dominic Phillips. Mr Phillips, who is standing for the seat of Sandringham and whose name will still appear on ballot papers, was stood down on Thursday after a woman wrote to Greens leader Samantha Ratnam by email accusing the candidate of raping her.
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JBP posted:It says Dan is to lose. that's a possessive apostrophe. The election is (belongs to) Dan's (unless he chooses) to lose.
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hooman posted:I'm extremely pro death panels for tech-bros. You're gonna have to do a lot more raping.
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Election prediction time!ewe2 posted:* Andrews says he won't work with the Greens but what if there ends up a significant number in either house? ALP are much happier dealing with a rag-tag bunch of minor righties than a block of Greens. ewe2 posted:* Can the Greens keep Prahan? Has anyone got any scuttlebutt about shenanigans there? Can the Greens in fact improve their showing in Melbourne metro seats and give Andrews a scare?
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thatbastardken posted:that's a possessive apostrophe. The election is (belongs to) Dan's (unless he chooses) to lose. It was a joke, Ken. It was an election joke. Also in why we won't have a revolution and conservatism is still popular news: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-23/australia-tops-median-wealth-per-adult-list/10518082 Chart of the day: Australia nudges Switzerland off top of global median wealth list Story Lab By Cristen Tilley Updated 53 minutes ago It might not feel like it to a lot of Australians, but we have just overtaken Switzerland as the wealthiest people in the world. In its Global Wealth Report 2018, Credit Suisse puts the median adult wealth of Australians at $US191,453 ($264,903). That means half of Australians are wealthier than that, and half are not. Credit Suisse says the typical Australian's position is thanks to high average wealth — courtesy of our compulsory superannuation system and high property prices — combined with relatively low wealth inequality. The report also notes that Australia's reliance on property prices (60 per cent of our assets are "non-financial") is higher than a lot of other places. Globally, the median wealth per adult is $US4,210 ($5,820).
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Lid posted:Eight days earlier I have so many questions Why would you, as an adult, like these pages? Why would you, as a public figure, like these pages? Why would you, as a public figure, not immediately nuke your facebook page on getting put on the ballot? How did the Greens not find this poo poo during vetting if Mark 'dumb movie reviews' Fennell can hunt them down during his lunchbreak? Was that honestly the best photo they have of him cos holy gently caress even I photograph better than that goomba
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Even if they don’t have a majority, Labor will form government without a partnership with the Greens. There is no way the greens would cause a constitutional crisis resulting in turfing a labor government in Victoria. It would end them for a generation in their strongest state.
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