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Mindblast posted:E: I can confirm, the proteus is good. If it werent for the fact that I'm completely hooked on being cordless, I'd still use it on and off. I had to get used to the thumb rest, though. I'm used to having my thumb partially rest on the mat for small aim corrections, and the proteus forced me to adjust. G502 is a strange-looking one whose smart design becomes more clear when you actually spend a great deal of time holding it. It's an itty bitty masterpiece of form-factor and comfort. And yeah, that thumb rest is hella nice - it also helps prevent carpal tunnel.
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I initially hated it. It made me realize just how much I used to use my thumb for corrections. It made me feel unsteady at first, more floaty than I was used to. I kept "skidding" around in moments where I needed a fine tune. But in the long run it was totally fine.
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My only complaint about the G502 is that it's a bit on the heavy side. Originally I thought I wouldn't care, then over time I realized it was hampering my twitching in FPS games just a little. All weights removed, of course. The thumb buttons are also annoyingly far forward for my preference and also a little vertical relative to my thumb resting point but that's almost every mouse ever made so I'm not faulting the 502 for that. The sniper button is impossible for me to hit without a complete shift into palm grip though.
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the sniper button on the 502 is probably my favorite aspect of the thing. it works perfectly with my grip and I use it a lot when I need more precision doing graphics work. it's definitely a little bit on the heavy side though and I do wish it was wireless, and on my first one I found the coating on the scroll wheel eventually started coming off. but those are honestly minor complaints, and I haven't found the mouse that fits my hand as naturally as this one. I really hope they never retire this form factor.
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I like the extra left mouse buttons on it. I tojlo wish it were wireless, and less blongy. Maybe I'll transition to an MX Master...
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The only utility I've found for the sniper button is actually in my day to day photoshop work which lol has actually become an integral part of my work procedure. I never use it in games preferring to adjust sensitivity with the 2 dedicated buttons for that rather than keep constant pressure on the sniper button for aiming.
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The sensor on my g900 seems to be hosed up, it constantly hitches and stops to the point where it's useless in games and annoying in desktop stuff, I tried updating firmware, drivers, replugging poo poo in all over/turning on and off, cleaning the sensor. Is there anything I'm forgetting to try or should I see if I can still get a warranty return from logitech? I got it a little over a year ago, which is annoying if it really is dead cause it's by far the most expensive mouse I've ever bought. I have my old zowie ec1 plugged in for now which is okay but the wire annoys me and the rubber coating on it has been kinda gross to touch for a while now
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Wowporn posted:The sensor on my g900 seems to be hosed up, it constantly hitches and stops to the point where it's useless in games and annoying in desktop stuff, I tried updating firmware, drivers, replugging poo poo in all over/turning on and off, cleaning the sensor. Is there anything I'm forgetting to try or should I see if I can still get a warranty return from logitech? I got it a little over a year ago, which is annoying if it really is dead cause it's by far the most expensive mouse I've ever bought. I have my old zowie ec1 plugged in for now which is okay but the wire annoys me and the rubber coating on it has been kinda gross to touch for a while now Absolutely try for a replacement under warranty, especially if you're in the US; the worst case scenario is that they may just say no, but you're likely to be offered a replacement of at least the 900 if not the 903 or something comparable.
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Hey, i'm replacing an aging logitech g500, and i could use some advice. Modern logitech's just don't seem to have the unreasonable durablity they used to, and I think i might swap brands. Buggy left click sensors are/is getting untenable. Does anyone have good experience with Red dragon or Utechsmart? A few models i'm looking at https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Wired-Gaming-Programmable-Buttons/dp/B07FK9PKSM https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Programmable-Precision-Buttons-Windows/dp/B00GU8W5AE https://www.amazon.com/UtechSmart-Venus-16400-Precision-Gaming/dp/B00FNKMVUO https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-HYPERTRAK-Precision-Programmable-Cartridge/dp/B00E64DTDQ/ Logitech g600 I've heard great things about the red dragon, and the latest model seems to have a better sensor on it, even if it is a little cheaper (and probably cheaply made) I've been after a mouse with more thumb buttons for a while, and yeah, while mmo mouses are ridiculous, I really like having Enter on thumb - and would relish having copy/paste/ etc or other simple commands I really like the g600's trio of thumb buttons. Forward, back and enter in the middle. Something with the similar, only more in the same area seems ideal for me. Anyone have experience/suggestions? TheParadigm fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Nov 24, 2018 |
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Recommend me a new mouse! My G700 is starting to double click constantly. I love this mouse. I tend to use a tip-style grip when playing games. My only real frustration is hitting the G4 button while moving it around (I did it writing another reply to this  ). Is there anything comparable? I do like the size and weight of it.
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TheParadigm posted:Hey, i'm replacing an aging logitech g500, and i could use some advice. Modern logitech's just don't seem to have the unreasonable durablity they used to, and I think i might swap brands. Buggy left click sensors are/is getting untenable. Well Logitech mice seem to be as durable as ever, and I highly doubt those random Chinese brands are more durable. Those mice are cheap enough however where you might as well give it a shot if you want to try something different. Gothmog1065 posted:Recommend me a new mouse! My G700 is starting to double click constantly. I think the G502/602 are the closest to the 700 in terms of rough shape and thumb button placement. You could always try to fix the switch(es) on your G700 though.
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I used a g700/g700s for ~6 years and I couldn't stand the 502. I currently use a 403.
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The 403/703 is nice (I use the latter with a Powerplay mat) but otherwise not comparable to the 700.
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Wowporn posted:The sensor on my g900 seems to be hosed up, it constantly hitches and stops to the point where it's useless in games and annoying in desktop stuff, I tried updating firmware, drivers, replugging poo poo in all over/turning on and off, cleaning the sensor. Is there anything I'm forgetting to try or should I see if I can still get a warranty return from logitech? I got it a little over a year ago, which is annoying if it really is dead cause it's by far the most expensive mouse I've ever bought. I have my old zowie ec1 plugged in for now which is okay but the wire annoys me and the rubber coating on it has been kinda gross to touch for a while now G900 has a two year warranty, so you're well within that if you only purchased around a year ago. Does it have issues in both wired and wireless modes? If it's wireless only you may want to try moving the receiver closer to the mouse and moving other high-power wireless devices (like a wifi router) farther away. It's likely to be one of the things that the support rep suggests when you contact Customer Care. Goo fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Nov 24, 2018 |
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If you added any USB 3.0 devices recently, try unplugging them as well. They can and will cause interference on nearby wireless devices (i.e. the neighboring mouse receiver).
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That's a very good point. There's a white paper from Intel that effectively boils down the solution to USB drive traffic causing 2.4GHz interference with wireless mouse receivers in adjacent USB ports to "don't do that."
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That's interesting, I had no idea. I do have an external USB 3.0 HDD but it is off (power unplugged) unless I need to read from it or write to it (not very often, just for backup purposes). Never noticed any mouse problems while it's active. The G603 comes with a dongle extender cable, which according to that white paper, is one of the mitigation methods. Ofecks fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Nov 24, 2018 |
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The extender is also a good way to move it up to the desktop so it's not trying to send signal from the back of a tower PC on the floor through all the metal and interfering components inside, as well as to move it away from other potentially interfering devices like routers. LIGHTSPEED is pretty robust, but 2.4GHz is an arms race. Generally speaking it's only a matter of time before something stronger comes out and wipes out your signal. That's why we try to provide tools like the extender in addition to a good protocol and signal strength to ensure that you have a good experience well beyond the warranty of the product.
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Goo posted:The extender is also a good way to move it up to the desktop so it's not trying to send signal from the back of a tower PC on the floor through all the metal and interfering components inside, as well as to move it away from other potentially interfering devices like routers. Know the nice thing about Logitech's adapter? It doesn't really matter what other 2.4GHz things are around, it just works with no lag and no jitter. You guys should just get those things built into laptops at this point and save the external USB slot.
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Goo posted:G900 has a two year warranty, so you're well within that if you only purchased around a year ago. Yeah it does still happen in wired mode. I have the reciever on the front of my pc case which is on a short end table so the ports are very close to the desk surface. I only really noticed it start happening this month and I’m pretty sure I haven’t added any new wireless stuff in that time.
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I think my g pro wireless also came with that extender despite it being lightspeed
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Yep - it's a standard component of LIGHTSPEED devices.Mindblast posted:I think my g pro wireless also came with that extender despite it being lightspeed
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Seeing a lot of love here for the g502, but what about the g402? My main use would be for gaming, fps and otherwise, and the g402 is very cheap right now 
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Atomizer posted:I think the G502/602 are the closest to the 700 in terms of rough shape and thumb button placement. You could always try to fix the switch(es) on your G700 though. I cleaned mine and it works a tiny bit better. Looking at the instructions to replace, it involves quite a bit of desoldering, and I am terrible with my soldering iron. That might be a project for me after I get a new mouse, because the likelihood of me destroying my mouse are pretty high. I'm seeing where you can replace just the leaf spring inside as well, but those switches seem to be pretty tightly put together. That as an aside, the G7/903's look very intriguing and I plan on getting the mat with it (been wanting a new mousepad too). I am also NOT stuck on Logitech (even though they do seem to make the best). I think the only real requirement is the lip around the left/right button, I do get twitchy and press the right a lot when I don't mean to. I saw some garbage one at walmart the other day and almost bought it, it was like $30 with the charging pad as well, but I skipped as I'm sure it would fail pretty quickly. I might just do wired since there's enough interference wherever I put my PC that the dongles don't work well.
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What's a good gaming mouse that doesn't loving squeal? My Logitech G500 has started to emit a horribly annoying high-pitched sound and it appears to be a common problem with this model. I'm pretty happy with it and I've had it for a few years, but if this persists I'll have to replace it with something that, you know, doesn't squeal.
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do any of the ~GAMER COMPANIES~ make a mouse that has adjustable DPI but quiet switches? i have G402 that I like well enough, but is just so drat loud
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My MX518 died last week. The nixeus Revel Fit is an almost perfect replacement except for the pulsing LED and I miss the home and end buttons. I think you can change the LED setting with nixeus' software but I don't really care that much. So thanks Audax for mentioning it.
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Wengy posted:What's a good gaming mouse that doesn't loving squeal? My Logitech G500 has started to emit a horribly annoying high-pitched sound and it appears to be a common problem with this model. I'm pretty happy with it and I've had it for a few years, but if this persists I'll have to replace it with something that, you know, doesn't squeal. i think the answer is "most of them, most of the time" tbh. I've never had one do it noticeably. I've owned 2 Deathadders, Abyssus, g502, g403, g900, g100s, g pro, a couple Steelseries My hearing is usually super sensitive to sounds like that so I'd be the first to bitch about it (hello to my electric toothbrush charger and every CRT television ever made)
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Wengy posted:What's a good gaming mouse that doesn't loving squeal? My Logitech G500 has started to emit a horribly annoying high-pitched sound and it appears to be a common problem with this model. I'm pretty happy with it and I've had it for a few years, but if this persists I'll have to replace it with something that, you know, doesn't squeal. Im also super sensitive to electronic humms and buzzing. My logitech g pro does not do it. The sensor for their top end wireless mice is supposedly extremely power efficient and this may contribute to the overall quietness. It also the bar none best gaming mouse i have ever used. My stats went up noticeably from my previous deathadder chroma.
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G Pro looks pretty awesome and not as annoyingly gameriffic as the G500, will check it out, thanks
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Wengy posted:G Pro looks pretty awesome and not as annoyingly gameriffic as the G500, will check it out, thanks its absolutely not needed and definitely a waste of money but its also compatible with the lightspeed wireless charging mousepad. The g pro already had a super long battery life but its cool having a wireless that never needs charging
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Fauxtool posted:its absolutely not needed and definitely a waste of money but its also compatible with the lightspeed wireless charging mousepad. The g pro already had a super long battery life but its cool having a wireless that never needs charging That looks cool indeed, but I do have a metal desk - won't this cause issues? I've also read that the little door thingy on the bottom of the G-Pro is magnetic, wouldn't it 'stick' to the surface of my desk? This is more complicated than I thought.
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Wengy posted:That looks cool indeed, but I do have a metal desk - won't this cause issues? I've also read that the little door thingy on the bottom of the G-Pro is magnetic, wouldn't it 'stick' to the surface of my desk? This is more complicated than I thought. as long as the mousepad is on top of the desk there would not be any blocking of the signal from the mousepad to the mouse. The magnet is aligned on a horizontal plane so there should be very little attraction downward.The magnet is also far too weak and deep in the mouse far from the bottom and the mousepad too thick. There are YT reviews where a metal desk is used and no issues are mentioned. Its just like a wireless phone charging pad but much larger and lower output. Those have no issues with being on a metal desk either. I have been using it underneath my jumbo mousepad and the signal gets through just fine Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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Wengy posted:That looks cool indeed, but I do have a metal desk - won't this cause issues? I've also read that the little door thingy on the bottom of the G-Pro is magnetic, wouldn't it 'stick' to the surface of my desk? This is more complicated than I thought. Depending on the polarity maybe the magnet will actually give you a little more glide! 
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OK, good to know, thanks guys! never expected to fall into a mouse rabbit hole, and now I'm checking out mechanical keyboards as well... halp
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Wengy posted:OK, good to know, thanks guys! never expected to fall into a mouse rabbit hole, and now I'm checking out mechanical keyboards as well... halp stay away from logitech keyboards if you like to macro. at least on the g pro line their software only lets you remap f keys and dedicated macro keys. Corsair and razer let you remap anything to anything.
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The keyboard thread is intimidatingly nerdy. I think I'll want something durable, suited for gaming (since that's all I do with that PC) and numpadless.
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If you want macros and gamer software and whatnot don't get this, but the go to recommendation the keyboard thread for a tkl is the WASD Code tenkeyless with brown or clear switches. I liked my corsair keyboard p well too, fwiw, but don't really know anything about specific products. E: also, got the G900 when it was on sale over cyber Monday, and I'm really liking it so far. I didn't realize how nice wireless would be, and although I don't like the shape quite as much as the g502 I do like that it's lighter and still has infinity scrolling. Would recommend for cheaper g pro alternative.
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The Cooler Master CK550/CK552 are pretty nice for cheap keyboards that you can buy at a retail store. They use Gateron switches, which are just fine as an alternative to Cherry. Not dramatically overpriced, and the software is very powerful.
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I also recommend the Cooler Master master keys series. I bought one about a year ago and love it.
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