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BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

ZombieApostate posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/hillary-clinton-europe-must-curb-immigration-stop-populists-trump-brexit

Hillary: "The EU has to stop the migrants to combat populism, perhaps by building some kind of wall. Also, people want a king to rule them, I totally didn't lose because I'm completely out of touch."

Wait, let me make sure I understand her logic.

Right-wingers are using immigration to stoke fears of the brown horde and get elected to office on the promise of stopping immigration.

Therefore, to defeat the right-wing parties in Europe, we must stop immigration.

...

I'm sorry, but didn't we literally try this in Vietnam? "We destroyed the village in order to save it"?

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

BigDave posted:

Wait, let me make sure I understand her logic.

Right-wingers are using immigration to stoke fears of the brown horde and get elected to office on the promise of stopping immigration.

Therefore, to defeat the right-wing parties in Europe, we must stop immigration.

...

I'm sorry, but didn't we literally try this in Vietnam? "We destroyed the village in order to save it"?

Based on Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State how do you think she’d have managed the Vietnam war?

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Die hard career centrist continues to slowly pull to the right like current bad dems.

Sadly it's just what Hillary is.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

hobbesmaster posted:

Based on Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State how do you think she’d have managed the Vietnam war?

McNamara on steroids, giving Westmoreland a blank check and pushing the attack after Tet, then capturing Hanoi in eight weeks.

Which would then lead to 10 years of a communist insurgency before President McGovern withdrew US forces in 1979.

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





hobbesmaster posted:

Based on Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State how do you think she’d have managed the Vietnam war?

I can't tell if this is a genuine opening to discussion or the punchline.

Coldwar timewarp
May 8, 2007



Immigration at pace is destabilizing Europe. The more immigration, the more pushback. Not defending Hildawg, but it is a problem with no easy answer. As climate change continues, this will get worse. The calls to close Europe will get louder, and they might just end up with a wall, whether physical or in policy. It’s already the largest inter-European issue.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

Coldwar timewarp posted:

Immigration at pace is destabilizing Europe. The more immigration, the more pushback. Not defending Hildawg, but it is a problem with no easy answer. As climate change continues, this will get worse. The calls to close Europe will get louder, and they might just end up with a wall, whether physical or in policy. It’s already the largest inter-European issue.

Then maybe do something about the root loving cause.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

A Bad Poster posted:

Then maybe do something about the root loving cause.

Hmmmm, sounds expensive. If I don't get my fourth mega-yacht next year what will every one think of me? I'll just have my pet Congress-critter give some speeches about reaching across the aisle or some poo poo and let it all get sorted out later.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

A Bad Poster posted:

Then maybe do something about the root loving cause.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Holy gently caress AOC continues to own on Twitter

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1066140344427925504

She really is living rent free in the right's head and she hasn't even sat down to cast a loving vote yet.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Gritty crashed a wedding!

https://twitter.com/marybwagner/status/1066146929195786241

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
Why does the right think that all socialists have taken a vow of asceticism??

It’s completely baffling.

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017
I think you'll find that being an oblivious, simpleminded moron is the cornerstone of conservatism

CoffeeQaddaffi
Mar 20, 2009

my kinda ape posted:

Why does the right think that all socialists have taken a vow of asceticism??

It’s completely baffling.

The mistaken belief that a desire for a social safety net is at odds with a capitalist/consumerist society?

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

CoffeeQaddaffi posted:

The mistaken belief that a desire for a social safety net is at odds with a capitalist/consumerist society?

Well socialism is kind of by definition at odds with those things but that doesn't mean "nobody can have nice things".

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Oh I guess he remembered the caravan.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1065359825654169600?s=21

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

my kinda ape posted:

Well socialism is kind of by definition at odds with those things but that doesn't mean "nobody can have nice things".

Only the heads of the party deserve such things, da?

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Hey duzzy, can you start recording yourself screaming Trump tweets in German? tia

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017
i think that would potentially be some sort of illegal Nazi thing in Germany

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

They had a thing about it as the big article on Foxnews.com earlier (I check it every now and then to see how bad it is) I imagine it's less of one of the few remaining neurons firing and more of him just parroting everything he sees.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1066142902848413696

:eyepop:

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT


quote:

Prince Ali, yes, it is he
But not as you know him
Read my lips and come to grips
With reality

Yes, meet a blast from your past
Whose lies were too good to last
Say "hello" to your precious Prince Ali!

So, Ali turns out to be merely Aladdin
Just a con, need I go on?
Take it from me

His personality flaws
Give me adequate cause
To send him packing on a one-way trip
So his prospects take a terminal dip
His assets frozen, the venue chosen
It's the end of the road, whoopee!

So long, ex-Prince Ali!

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

mods changed my name posted:

i think that would potentially be some sort of illegal Nazi thing in Germany

It's probably this.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Mere days after President Smoothbrain basically tweeted “If global warming is real, then why is it so cold? #checkmatelibs :smuggo:” his own government came out and said that not only is climate change real, but its effects are getting worse with catastrophes becoming more and more common.

Whichever species that manages to survive humanity and what we’ve done to the planet is going to write about this day and age as our “as Rome burned” moment, although they’re probably going to reclassify it as “as New York melted” or something.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Hey, I know you need a new heart and all, but as your doctors, we recommend a GoFundMe.

https://twitter.com/lukeoneil47/status/1066347037195726851

Surprise! It's a DeVos hospital in Grand Rapids :toot:

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
I was loving terrified when I got food poisoning in the states on vacation cause I didn't buy travellers insurance. I'd probably be able to afford whatever happened but I doubt I would have any money left for the vacation

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hot Karl Marx posted:

I was loving terrified when I got food poisoning in the states on vacation cause I didn't buy travellers insurance. I'd probably be able to afford whatever happened but I doubt I would have any money left for the vacation

A lot of credit cards these days offer travel insurance as a benefit. So if you have one from a normal bank then you're probably covered.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/24/us/alabama-mall-hoover-shooting/index.html

Good Guy with a Gun, and also active duty Army home on leave gets shot in the head by police, who then refuse to give him any first aid while he bleeds out on the ground.

Oh yeah they also let the actual shooter walk the gently caress out of the mall.

:thumbsup:

Dwanyelle
Jan 13, 2008

ISRAEL DOESN'T HAVE CIVILIANS THEY'RE ALL VALID TARGETS
I'm a huge dickbag ignore me
It was a black dude in Alabama, did you really expect anything different?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Bolow posted:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/24/us/alabama-mall-hoover-shooting/index.html

Good Guy with a Gun, and also active duty Army home on leave gets shot in the head by police, who then refuse to give him any first aid while he bleeds out on the ground.

Oh yeah they also let the actual shooter walk the gently caress out of the mall.

:thumbsup:

If only his gun had a gun!

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

love when the pigs murder my brothers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jOqOlETcRU

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Hot Karl Marx posted:

I was loving terrified when I got food poisoning in the states on vacation cause I didn't buy travellers insurance. I'd probably be able to afford whatever happened but I doubt I would have any money left for the vacation

Most hospitals wouldn't refuse acute care if you don't pay up front, and even if they bothered to pursue an unpaid bill from someone with a foreign address you could ignore them.

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
more proof that all cops are garbage bastards and there's never a reason to call them



only good cop is one that (through the actions of himself or someone else) becomes Not A Cop Anymore

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Professor Bling posted:

more proof that all cops are garbage bastards and there's never a reason to call them

The cop was working security at the mall, nobody called him.

Time Crisis Actor
Apr 28, 2002

by Hand Knit
Is Jacob Wohl a real person? Scientists disagree.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1066189782680711168

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

hobbesmaster posted:

The cop was working security at the mall, nobody called him.

Even worse

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

hobbesmaster posted:

The cop was working security at the mall, nobody called him.

oh cool a rent-a-cop who (probably) couldn't pass the already low bar required to be a "real" cop

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

He was a real cop off duty working security for the mall.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
police officers with two jobs are really bad about mistakenly killing minorities, huh? This guy, Martello...

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FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Wasabi the J posted:

police officers with two jobs are really bad about mistakenly killing minorities, huh? This guy, Martello...

If only he’d had a high-and-tight.

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