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I'll have just enough time to watch it and buy all the merch before I leave Japan. Blessed.
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superLINUS posted:the WTF of High School Boys Marry Monsters. From few pages back, but whaaat?
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Zernach posted:From few pages back, but whaaat? Jingai-san no Yome.
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Darth Walrus posted:Jingai-san no Yome. Yeah, this. It's a very short show - like 3 minutes - about a world where it's totally normal for high school boys to become the wives (yes, wives) of weird creatures. And it's lovely.
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Spyce really starting to lose me even if it has Viking this week Also I'd say it's 100% sure Hatsume is the traitor not that I care too much
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I caught a bit of zombieland saga's last episode while my so was watching it and I really, really didn't expect an anime to treat that topic well at all. I was kinda blown away!
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Grapplejack posted:I caught a bit of zombieland saga's last episode while my so was watching it and I really, really didn't expect an anime to treat that topic well at all. I was kinda blown away! in conclusion, double house is a good manga
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It's not really surprising that it happened in any Japanese media, but it is surprising that it has happened in a mainstream anime and that she's actually a character of consequence instead of being a super boring side character. edit: in the same way it's surprising when a prime time american show doesn't gently caress up trans characters. Terrible Opinions fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Nov 26, 2018 |
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Back in the 80's Dirty Pair had an episode where the two main chars basically turned to the screen and said "trans women are women and in the space year 3000X it's normal and common for people to transition" not posting this to gotcha anyone I just really like Dirty Pair
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Endorph posted:There's a few anime and a shitton of manga that have treated that topic well. Not posting this in a 'how dare you not know this' way but a 'it's cool and it's sad that a combination of group orientalism and general ignorance of more niche shows has led to people not knowing' I think lack of visibility is being taken as "it's completely new and we brought it to them" instead of "it always existed and no one bothered to promote/support it until recently", which is a worrying implication. As for other things that would be relevant to LGBT watchers/readers, the transformative sense you mentioned where there's ever an assertion of a previous state that contradicts an individual's current and asserted state, but I'm also talking out of my rear end here cause that's just my interpretation of what I've seen. It might be complete bullshit. There's also the whole "ddddddurrrrrrrrrrrrrr japan doesn't have the concept therefore not trans" which is bull cause it's all nomenclature anyway. There is nothing about nationalities that make it so that humans have completely different experiences and feelings, what the gently caress guys. DisDisDis posted:Back in the 80's Dirty Pair had an episode where the two main chars basically turned to the screen and said "trans women are women and in the space year 3000X it's normal and common for people to transition" I have heard good things about it but I never watched it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE_CewGiHsI Watch project eden at least, its rad.
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Maya's VA is really, really trying in this AA case and it's helping make it less lovely, god bless her. Also I'm kinda of surprised that Japan is apparently extremely thirsty for her?Pollyanna posted:I think lack of visibility is being taken as "it's completely new and we brought it to them" instead of "it always existed and no one bothered to promote/support it until recently", which is a worrying implication. As for other things that would be relevant to LGBT watchers/readers, the transformative sense you mentioned where there's ever an assertion of a previous state that contradicts an individual's current and asserted state, but I'm also talking out of my rear end here cause that's just my interpretation of what I've seen. It might be complete bullshit. There's also the thing with the One Piece guy being exceptionally lovely about it, and One Piece is pretty big.
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the cafe case is good, it's 3-2 that sucks
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Motto posted:the cafe case is good, it's 3-2 that sucks I hate the fake phoenix thing, it's so dumb it makes me unable to enjoy the case. That's just me being weird tho 
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Grapplejack posted:Maya's VA is really, really trying in this AA case and it's helping make it less lovely, god bless her. Also I'm kinda of surprised that Japan is apparently extremely thirsty for her? More than they already did in the games via Mia, anyway.
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that's pretty lame, bro. tigre owns and so does the mental mob daughter
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Grapplejack posted:Maya's VA is really, really trying in this AA case and it's helping make it less lovely, god bless her. Also I'm kinda of surprised that Japan is apparently extremely thirsty for her? thirsty for aoi yuuki or maya? not that the outcome changes by answer here
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:I'm not surprised, but is that affecting the show? Are they fanservicing Maya? A little bit here and there, enough for me to notice it at least. Space Flower posted:thirsty for aoi yuuki or maya? not that the outcome changes by answer here Maya. Her VA brings a lot of energy to the show. Actually the VAs for all the female characters are extremely good in the AA anime, they're all having fun with the roles and you can tell.
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That's Aoi Yuuki. She's very good. Got range, too. (Her enthusiasm when discussing NieR Automata is something to behold.)
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Moreso than anything else Aoi Yuuki made Youjo Senki one of my all time favourite anime. She's that good as Tanya.
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Nephthys posted:Moreso than anything else Aoi Yuuki made Youjo Senki one of my all time favourite anime. She's that good as Tanya. 
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Sharkopath posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE_CewGiHsI Wow, that's incredibly stylish (and 80s).
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Grapplejack posted:There's also the thing with the One Piece guy being exceptionally lovely about it, and One Piece is pretty big.
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Endorph posted:Persona is lovely about it too, though for some reason Persona has been elected as a woke series. Probably also a factor in why some people have these weird views, if they're going 'persona woke... but weird about trans??' I've definitely seen people going down that road, anyway. I can only really talk about 5, but it starts off woke but slowly degenerates over the course of the game whilst trying to keep a veneer on (but usually failing). Whilst I enjoyed the gameplay a lot, the story could have really used some work (and a writer who doesn't have weird ideas about the impossibility of guy/girl friendships).
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Well good news the series has changed head writers.
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Ibblebibble posted:I can only really talk about 5, but it starts off woke but slowly degenerates over the course of the game whilst trying to keep a veneer on (but usually failing). Whilst I enjoyed the gameplay a lot, the story could have really used some work (and a writer who doesn't have weird ideas about the impossibility of guy/girl friendships). persona 3 portable removed that bit and also had actual lesbian romance options and it seems like the director of p3p would be the heir apparent to persona now that the previous director has left with a lot of the senior staff to go make some fantasy rpg, so, here's hoping.
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Endorph posted:3 just straight up has a sequence where you see a transwoman on the beach and junpei hits on her before realizing shes trans and freaks out and there's a line about her stubble and then she acts like a pedophile Persona 5, amongst other things, makes jokes about gay people being extremely predatory and preying on young boys. Several times. The Persona series did get some brownie points with some of the stuff they did in Persona 4, especially in regards to young people being awkward or lovely and struggling with their sexuality and place in the world. But I would say they have regressed somewhat when it comes to being woke.
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imo it doesn't get brownie points for vaguely handwaving at the idea of teens trying to figure out their sexuality but never even trying to do it with you telling the possibly trans-man that You Like Them Better As A Girl and then have the guy's who supposed to be your Best Friend making homophobic jokes and acting like crossdressing is some sin against god persona 4 sucks
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persona 4's approach to teenage insecurity was incredibly shallow and only really landed a few interesting beats on a handful of characters that still came out kind of underexplored due to the game's problem with having characters just fade into the background after their arc of the main plot is over, it repeated the same lovely gag between yosuke and kanji for the entire game with zero acknowledgment of how lovely it was and naoto's social link just sucked persona 4 might be the most style over substance out of all of them because without that game's flashy visual direction and soundtrack it's just, the most conservative story about teenage insecurity in any jrpg ever made and the only thing that arguably makes it better than persona 3 or 5 is that yosuke's gag can theoretically be argued as a part of his character and not literally just someone on the dev team openly expressing a hatred of gay people if anything persona 4 is a huge regression on persona 2, where you could literally just, be gay, and that was just a thing you could do, and everyone in your party was okay with it. it's not an insanely deep exploration of homosexuality but at least it has the guts to officially confirm if you pick that option that, yes, you and your boyfriend are gay. also low-key had a canon lesbian character who you could help survive against the nazi party The Colonel fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Nov 26, 2018 |
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Expect My Mom posted:persona 4 sucks You're not wrong. Maybe I should've phrased that differently. I remember people being keen on it at the time, but it's been forever since I've seen the game. I was mostly trying to focus on Persona 5 being worse. For what it's worth, Persona 5 made me think that whatever social awareness there might be to the series, it might've just been due to translation efforts at the time. To get away from just piling onto the game, how did the anime turn out, even? I haven't seen much Mention of it. I watched the first episode and it didn't really seem like it added anything worthwhile.
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Nov 26, 2018 20:25
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there was a bit more Persona 5 MC x Goro Akechi shipping which is basically the subtext of that game anyway so I love that
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I love Persona 5 but I have to admit that I like the idea of it more than the game itself. The game has so many traces of rewrites and abandoned plots that its woke/awfulness duality is not that surprising. Hopefully if it ever gets a Golden edition its problems will get sanded down.
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Persona 5 is capital b Busted, but if they release a Golden version with an actual Goro social link and let you date him, I'll buy that Day One, cowboy
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there's no duality of woke to persona, the development team for 3-5 just recognized that centering the themes of the games around things that seemed progressive on the surface would get attention even if they didn't actually give a coherent poo poo about any of it. that director literally hasn't made a game that doesn't have a lovely joke about gay people and the fantasy game he's directing will probably have something like that too
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