Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Beet Wagon posted:

have any idea how the internet works

Yeah, it is a bunch of tube worms.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 16:56

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 23:41

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

tooterfish posted:

Wait, you guys are jerking each other off?

And I suppose you just "forgot" to tell me. You bastards!

# ? Nov 26, 2018 16:57

SoftNum: Mar 31, 2011

Remember Verstice and whoever else is (TOTALLY ILLEGALLY OMG) reading our nice, positive community here:

Reddit could end (what you are defining as) "brigading" very easily, by having referral links redirect back to the top of the subreddit. In fact they don't need to create URLs for individual comments at all. Outside reddit linking is how the site is as huge as it is today.

If you want us to stop linking your posts, stop saying stupid things. hth.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 16:58

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

# ? Nov 26, 2018 16:59

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

*googles "reddit star citizen stupid idiots"*

Did I just do a brigade?

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:12

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

in case there was any doubt in your mind about how gullible Citizens are, this went on sale today:

That is a 250 dollar upgrade for your 1,250 dollar ship, to give it a big laser but it won't be *quite* as powerful as the 1000 dollar version of the ship that they won't sell to you anymore, in order to keep the people who bought that happy. None of these ships or upgrades are usable in game.

Apparently the "Limited Stock" was gone in under 10 seconds.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:13

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Oh but I guess it's now available in 3D Model form, which makes it okay to spend an additional 250 bucks on a ship you can't fly.

*raises arm in cheer*

Appears to be the garbage texture model too

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:14

SoftNum: Mar 31, 2011

Beet Wagon posted:

*googles "reddit star citizen stupid idiots"*

Did I just do a brigade?

clearly arrest google for brigading.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:17

DigitalPenny: Sep 3, 2018

Pixelate posted:

This whole travel time thing is overblown. Teleportation has been in for ages.

to be fair this happens 30-40% of the time when i drink whiskey

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:18

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

It is the worst kind of brigading.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:18

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Sarsapariller posted:

Oh but I guess it's now available in 3D Model form, which makes it okay to spend an additional 250 bucks on a ship you can't fly.

*raises arm in cheer*

Appears to be the garbage texture model too

Maaaaaaaaaaaan that looks like poo poo lol

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:18

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Also also, apparently they sold more of the 2500 dollar ship the Javelin and a bunch more of the 1250 dollar ship itself.

Both sold out within minutes

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:18

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

ITS NOT PAY TO WIN *buys a $250 weapon for their ship*

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:19

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

TheAgent posted:

ITS NOT PAY TO WIN *pledges a $250 weapon for their ship*

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:21

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

TheAgent posted:

ITS NOT PAY TO WIN *buys a $250 weapon for their ship*

Has anyone brought this up on the brown seas?

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:22

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

SoftNum posted:

If you want us to stop linking your posts, stop saying stupid things.

....openly, on the internet, where people can see.

Edit: Anyone up for some light rubbing?

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:24

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

iospace posted:

Has anyone brought this up on the brown seas?

[Removed]

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:24

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

iospace posted:

Has anyone brought this up on the brown seas?

Repeatedly. They don't want to hear about it.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:27

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Beet Wagon posted:

Maaaaaaaaaaaan that looks like poo poo lol

I like that they took the time to model the fake new gun attachment on the front of the ship that you can't fly

E: full album
https://imgur.com/a/wey3BtK

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:27

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

iospace posted:

Has anyone brought this up on the brown seas?

can't pay2win if there's no game :smug:

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:28

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Sarsapariller posted:

I like that they took the time to model the fake new gun attachment on the front of the ship that you can't fly

E: full album
https://imgur.com/a/wey3BtK

I really like the gigantic spindly legs because some dipshit insisted early on that a giant flying capital ship should definitely be able to land

I also like how it's clearly so unfinished that they don't have a state for it where the engines are turned off

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:29

DigitalPenny: Sep 3, 2018

TheAgent posted:

ITS NOT PAY TO WIN *buys a $250 weapon for their ship*

Now i know we have been late delivering your digital asset .... not by a little a its been years i know i know ....
but the wait will be worth it ..... if you get this upgrade ... its only $250 dollars...... :agesilaus:

an upgrade to preorder that is years late... i would rant but im too awestruck by the stupidity... or maybe its brilliance, either way I'm obviously not drinking enough hairy Roberts.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:29

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Sarsapariller posted:

I like that they took the time to model the fake new gun attachment on the front of the ship that you can't fly

E: full album
https://imgur.com/a/wey3BtK

Is that the old model or something? Maybe it's just perspective but that 100% looks too small

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:30

Dementropy: Aug 23, 2010

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:30

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:31

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Apparently only whales are allowed to visit this link, but the Idris-P is still available for them ($1300 new money only)

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Standalone-Ships/AEGIS-Idris-P-Anniversary-2018-Warbond

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:31

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

I kinda like "woke Dolvak" lol

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:32

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

we're about 3 more patches out before the citizens begin consuming themselves like its free civil meat day

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:34

DigitalPenny: Sep 3, 2018

Alan Smithee posted:

can't pay2win if there's no game

Check mate goons.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:34

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Vertisce you're loving insane

get help

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:35

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Beet Wagon posted:

I kinda like "woke Dolvak" lol

Dolvak might be an insufferable prat, but to quote the great Italian-American philosopher Silvio Dante: "when you're right you're right".

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:36

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Sarsapariller posted:

Apparently only whales are allowed to visit this link, but the Idris-P is still available for them ($1300 new money only)

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Standalone-Ships/AEGIS-Idris-P-Anniversary-2018-Warbond

Should point out that while my account is still considered concierge, it is apparently not concierge enough to see and photograph these sales. Can't imagine why.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:36

Foo Diddley: Oct 29, 2011; cat

Mirificus posted:

quote:

So we've gone from "shhhh... just let it happen" to "he dressed sexy so he was asking for it"?! You aren't making your case any better, but keep digging that hole!

Hmmm, should I elucidate my point with a car analogy? A food analogy? No, I've got it, I'll use a rape analogy!

Reddit, classiest place on the internet

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:37

Scruffpuff: Dec 23, 2015; Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Sarsapariller posted:

in case there was any doubt in your mind about how gullible Citizens are, this went on sale today:

That is a 250 dollar upgrade for your 1,250 dollar ship, to give it a big laser but it won't be *quite* as powerful as the 1000 dollar version of the ship that they won't sell to you anymore, in order to keep the people who bought that happy. None of these ships or upgrades are usable in game.

Apparently the "Limited Stock" was gone in under 10 seconds.

Only registered members can see post attachments!

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:38

Virtual Captain: Feb 20, 2017; Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.

Who literally jerked off Toops?

Not cool dude.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:40

Awesome Fidelity: Aug 16, 2017; The path i walk lights up in
fidelity

Beet Wagon posted:

TheAgent posted:
WHAT IS "WINNING" ANYWAY? *spite-pledges $250 and as a thank you receives a free weapon upgrade for their previous $1250 pledge which included a free ship*

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:41

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

lets fix them wagons in a circle, round these stupid posts here

we're about to come under attack by the merciless horde of unwashed savages from somethingawful.com

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:43

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

It's not P2W, It's no-

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:45

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

*single downvote flies overhead*

goddammit that was close, told y'all

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:46

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 23:41

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

Interlude:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/afflicted-and-the-tragedy-of-fake-illnesses/
This is basically a review of 'Afflicted', a Netflix documentary that follows around people with those really odd illnesses that they've been convinced of having by quacks. This sits inside my 'humans are loving odd' Venn diagram of interest because it's part of the whole 'gaslighting' angle of modern discourse.

'Gaslighting', as literally every American is now aware, comes from a movie where the antagonist fucks with the protagonist in subtle ways to make her question reality. it's a modern technique used by people with high dark triad scores to maintain control over the object of regard, in this regard, it's actually used to extract money from people based on a diagnosis and set of treatments that curiously come from the _same place_.

I had some brief contact with this once when a girlfriend went to see a homeopath. We sat in someone's spare room as she manipulated my GFs arm and tucked little vials of dilute material under her shirt, over the belly button (or the second Chakra if you're a woo aficionado) to conclude that she had a candida infestation, and needed a $30 dilution to get better.

Of course, this was one of those situations where I could walk out laughing, but some people have illnesses that are difficult to diagnose, and often slide into the woo circles, where one 'specialist' will send people to another 'specialist' to reinforce the diagnosis.

This is where the gaslighting comes in.

quote:

1. They tell blatant lies.

You know it's an outright lie. Yet they are telling you this lie with a straight face. Why are they so blatant? Because they're setting up a precedent. Once they tell you a huge lie, you're not sure if anything they say is true. Keeping you unsteady and off-kilter is the goal.

2. They deny they ever said something, even though you have proof.

You know they said they would do something; you know you heard it. But they out and out deny it. It makes you start questioning your reality�maybe they never said that thing. And the more they do this, the more you question your reality and start accepting theirs.

3. They use what is near and dear to you as ammunition.

They know how important your kids are to you, and they know how important your identity is to you. So those may be one of the first things they attack. If you have kids, they tell you that you should not have had those children. They will tell you'd be a worthy person if only you didn't have a long list of negative traits. They attack the foundation of your being.

4. They wear you down over time.

This is one of the insidious things about gaslighting�it is done gradually, over time. A lie here, a lie there, a snide comment every so often...and then it starts ramping up. Even the brightest, most self-aware people can be sucked into gaslighting�it is that effective. It's the "frog in the frying pan" analogy: The heat is turned up slowly, so the frog never realizes what's happening to it.

5. Their actions do not match their words.

When dealing with a person or entity that gaslights, look at what they are doing rather than what they are saying. What they are saying means nothing; it is just talk. What they are doing is the issue.

6. They throw in positive reinforcement to confuse you.

This person or entity that is cutting you down, telling you that you don't have value, is now praising you for something you did. This adds an additional sense of uneasiness. You think, "Well maybe they aren't so bad." Yes, they are. This is a calculated attempt to keep you off-kilter�and again, to question your reality. Also look at what you were praised for; it is probably something that served the gaslighter.

7. They know confusion weakens people.

Gaslighters know that people like having a sense of stability and normalcy. Their goal is to uproot this and make you constantly question everything. And humans' natural tendency is to look to the person or entity that will help you feel more stable�and that happens to be the gaslighter.

8. They project.

They are a drug user or a cheater, yet they are constantly accusing you of that. This is done so often that you start trying to defend yourself, and are distracted from the gaslighter's own behavior.

9. They try to align people against you.

Gaslighters are masters at manipulating and finding the people they know will stand by them no matter what�and they use these people against you. They will make comments such as, "This person knows that you're not right," or "This person knows you're useless too." Keep in mind it does not mean that these people actually said these things. A gaslighter is a constant liar. When the gaslighter uses this tactic it makes you feel like you don't know who to trust or turn to�and that leads you right back to the gaslighter. And that's exactly what they want: Isolation gives them more control.

10. They tell you or others that you are crazy.

This is one of the most effective tools of the gaslighter, because it's dismissive. The gaslighter knows if they question your sanity, people will not believe you when you tell them the gaslighter is abusive or out-of-control. It's a master technique.

11. They tell you everyone else is a liar.

By telling you that everyone else (your family, the media) is a liar, it again makes you question your reality. You've never known someone with the audacity to do this, so they must be telling the truth, right? No. It's a manipulation technique. It makes people turn to the gaslighter for the "correct" information�which isn't correct information at all.

The more you are aware of these techniques, the quicker you can identify them and avoid falling into the gaslighter's trap.

I'm not suggesting that SC is gaslighting, or even that the fans are, but they need to be aware, as do we, what the tactical items of gaslighting actually are to spot them in action.

Beet Wagon posted:

I kinda like "woke Dolvak" lol

Seriously, the Jack Nicholson 'Dolvak' gif is a true modern classic.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:48

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