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M_Gargantua posted:I'm looking forward to legal ransomware come 2024, where you have to rent your lightbulbs from the power company and they remotely disable them if you're not paying their exorbitant service fees while also paying double for your power consumption. Burn the rich for warmth.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:35 |
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Also buy the parts to make your own IoT poo poo.
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M_Gargantua posted:I'm looking forward to legal ransomware come 2024, where you have to rent your lightbulbs from the power company and they remotely disable them if you're not paying their exorbitant service fees while also paying double for your power consumption. This has already pretty much occurred, the Internet of poo poo Twitter had a post about it.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:38 |
I thought that was actual ransomware though? I guess we should come up for a better name for when your corporate overlords do it with the states sanction. I wonder how many people in low income housing will be shot by police and/or have repo men raid them because they can't pay for their landlord installed smart fridge. Also your landlord signed that smart fridge in a contract with peapod and will only work if all food purchased from a stop and shop. Someone pay me royalties so I can elevate myself to the petty Bourgeoisie M_Gargantua fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Nov 26, 2018 |
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:42 |
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M_Gargantua posted:I thought that was actual ransomware though? Capitalism?
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:44 |
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There was a big IoT thing last week about how some smart thermostat company had their central servers go down and people couldn't get the unit working and were freezing. I think the funniest part was that it did in fact have a manual mode but most people were too dumb to figure that out or too stubbon to use it.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:48 |
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Don't see the point of Phillip's Hue. I do have smart plugs on some of my lights which is nice for shutting the lights off when in bed, and the away mode to randomly switch on and off when I'm not home. I do see the irony of letting Amazon run a couple of hot mics in my apartment while I refuse to use social media with privacy concerns being a bigger reason. I really love how people don't get that all of Elon's antics of late (Flamethrowers, tequila, paranoid fantasies about living in a simulation) are a smoke screen for his company's many problems. I've gotten to the point that I hate anyone who has anything nice to say about him. Vasudus posted:There was a big IoT thing last week about how some smart thermostat company had their central servers go down and people couldn't get the unit working and were freezing. I think the funniest part was that it did in fact have a manual mode but most people were too dumb to figure that out or too stubbon to use it. Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Nov 26, 2018 |
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I must be one of the idiots, because I have some Hue lights, and one day my internet went out and I couldn't figure out how to turn the lights in my place on because the app wouldn't work without wifi.
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A Bad Poster posted:I must be one of the idiots, because I have some Hue lights, and one day my internet went out and I couldn't figure out how to turn the lights in my place on because the app wouldn't work without wifi. Did you try a light switch?
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:12 |
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There's plenty of neat uses of IoT things. I just question the execution of a lot of them.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:13 |
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Oh I adore my Phillips Hue + google home setup. I've got my whole apartment wired up with a mix of coloured and not coloured bulbs. It's great for mood lighting, or even just the convenience of saying "Hey google turn on the lights" when I walk indoors. They're just all off on a separate VLAN so I know my primary browsing (phone/laptop/etc) are safe and segmented though and tbh I don't find the digital assistant useful for anything other than checking the weather, setting timers and occasionally netflix. It's very clearly an immature technology.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:20 |
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Vasudus posted:There's plenty of neat uses of IoT things. I just question the execution of a lot of them. Alexia and Google Home really bug me, mostly because of the privacy implications. If the FBI or whoever wants a wiretap in my house, they need to go before a federal judge and show probable cause. But now, I pay Amazon for the privilege of putting a tap in my bedroom? Who's to say that Amazon won't grant access to the cops or NSA? That's a pretty big privacy violation for the convince of finding out the weather forecast from my bed.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:29 |
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I think the big problem with IoT stuff is that selling the product isn't where the money is, it's in having it phone home your use of it so they can bundle it and sell the data to others. So a lot of things that have perfectly reasonable uses for being connected to the internet end up getting muddled by connecting to a central server to function. Like having your coffee maker being an IoT device. It's cool that you can say, push a button while you're in the car heading home or to the office at an unspecified time and have it brew some coffee for you, as that goes beyond what a traditional timer-based coffee maker could do. I would pay a few bucks extra for that. What's not cool is that your usage request gets sent to the server, which then sends it to the device, and then you suddenly notice more advertisements for sleep aids or something. Or when there's an OTA update that bricks your coffee maker, which happened like two years ago? or so to some no-name IoT company that I had a good laugh at. But that's not where the money is, so it'll always work like that.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:30 |
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BigDave posted:Alexia and Google Home really bug me, mostly because of the privacy implications. Amazon has already been ordered to turn over two days worth of recordings in a double homicide in NY, so uh, they absolutely will grant access. It's a concession that privacy as we know it is dead.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:32 |
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my dad bought one of those cheap Chinese IoT plugs that's controlled thru an app, he has two lights in the house setup on timers. After the router went and hosed itself it took him 20 minutes to re-sync the thing just so he could push a button on his phone and turn the lights on and off. I rage at the tv when I see those google home ads "HEY GOOGLE TURN ON THE COFFEEMAKER". So you bought a 20-30 dollar wifi plug to work with your 40-50 dollar smart home solution so you can have the same functionality that a 20 dollar coffee maker with a timer has. gently caress off.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:33 |
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C-SPAM is digging up some real "good" Chief challenge coin minions. What the gently caress, Navy?
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:36 |
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psydude posted:Did you try a light switch? They require the power to be on at all times for the lights to work, so as far as I know the only way to turn the light on is through the app.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:57 |
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Another part of this whole craze is whatever as a service. Because people don't have enough money to afford things upfront so they'll siphon it off from you over time, in greater quantity.
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mlmp08 posted:C-SPAM is digging up some real "good" Chief challenge coin minions. What the gently caress, Navy? That is one of the stupidest god damned things I have ever seen.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:03 |
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A Bad Poster posted:They require the power to be on at all times for the lights to work, so as far as I know the only way to turn the light on is through the app. They lights automatically turn on when power is removed and then reapplied. Turn off the switch and then turn it back on and the light will turn on. You can then use them as normal light bulbs.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:07 |
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Buy as many unnecessary networked devices as you can, keeps me employed.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:13 |
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mlmp08 posted:C-SPAM is digging up some real "good" Chief challenge coin minions. What the gently caress, Navy? This is physically painful.
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psydude posted:They lights automatically turn on when power is removed and then reapplied. Turn off the switch and then turn it back on and the light will turn on. You can then use them as normal light bulbs. Then I'm confirmed for being a moron.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:30 |
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i don't know what lot stands for but I'm assuming it was thought up by the same big brains that put touch screen devices into cars so you can blindly smash away on invisible buttons with no feedback
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:46 |
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Internet of poo poo (things)
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:51 |
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Non-RTOS device that is likely delivered pre-compromised for your pleasure.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:54 |
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BigDave posted:Alexia and Google Home really bug me, mostly because of the privacy implications. I'm more worried about the security implications. Huge companies can't even keep your private info safe. Who's to say someone won't gain access because of slapdash security and just use your devices to literally see if you're not home. It's 2018, you're being watched constantly by the government anyway.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:57 |
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Last year a whole bunch of defense contractors (and I would imagine everyone else) put in retroactive employment clauses to periodically conduct unannounced checks on your (public) social media and other things. I had to fill out a thing for work with an affidavit that I don't have or use social media. We're a few years away from a third party big data harvester narcing on you for telling your employer that for someone who was supposedly sick, you left the day prior and turned off your coffee maker.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:05 |
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https://twitter.com/ejacqui/status/1066442484572577794quote:Most of the plantations around us were new, their rise a direct consequence of policy decisions made half a world away. In the mid-2000s, Western nations, led by the United States, began drafting environmental laws that encouraged the use of vegetable oil in fuels — an ambitious move to reduce carbon dioxide and curb global warming. But these laws were drawn up based on an incomplete accounting of the true environmental costs. Despite warnings that the policies could have the opposite of their intended effect, they were implemented anyway, producing what now appears to be a calamity with global consequences. Eej fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Nov 26, 2018 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:I'm more worried about the security implications. Huge companies can't even keep your private info safe. Who's to say someone won't gain access because of slapdash security and just use your devices to literally see if you're not home. It's 2018, you're being watched constantly by the government anyway. I'm entirely sure that the only reason robbery isn't more common is because its difficult to find a reliable fence without getting slowly blackmailed into drug trade or just getting shot. PERSEC is hard, breaking and entering is easy, but selling jewlery and small electronics? Both difficult and not worth the money. Gotta use your script kiddie hacker skills to get in on that industrial grift. There was a couple of people who were scraping credit card deets in their easily drivable region, would order stuff to peoples houses who were unlikely to be home often, and would just scoop the amazon packages off their doorstep shortly after delivery.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:06 |
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I bought a new fridge recently and saw that many of the most expensive models have WiFi and app connectivity. Why the gently caress would I need an app for my fridge? What could it possibly do? If it’s not “making a cocktail so it’s ready for you immediately when you get home from work” then it just seems like a solution in search of a problem at best and probably a vector to siphon data back to the manufacturer at worst.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:08 |
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The one thing I'll never trust is a "smart" lock.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:12 |
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Casimir Radon posted:The one thing I'll never trust is a "smart" lock. Yeah that's where I'm at. I like my Nest thermostat but know how to switch it to manual if need be and my hue bulbs are nice. But gently caress trusting my front doors deadbolts to an IoT device.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:15 |
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Regular lock isn't exactly much better than a smart lock. You're screwed either way!
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:18 |
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mlmp08 posted:C-SPAM is digging up some real "good" Chief challenge coin minions. What the gently caress, Navy? While i hate minions with the fire of a thousand suns, i do like creative military tchotchke like challenge coins and unit patches. Wish someone had a grand database of all em.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:19 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGi6j2VrL0o
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Knives Amilli posted:While i hate minions with the fire of a thousand suns, i do like creative military tchotchke like challenge coins and unit patches. Wish someone had a grand database of all em. Here, I found the database: https://www.goatse.cx
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:21 |
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I’m diggin around butt all i found was a ring no coins.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:23 |
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Handsome Ralph posted:Yeah that's where I'm at. There's at least a couple companies that make smart vents now, which seems pretty cool. You can partially or fully close off rooms you don't want to waste heating and cooling on at certain times.
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Casimir Radon posted:The one thing I'll never trust is a "smart" lock. Not to mention that most of the more popular models have an issue with wireless firmware updates bricking the entire lock. This, in addition to the fact that many don't ship with analogue failsafes (I.e. a loving key) means that you can be 100% locked out of your own home because of shoddy coding and execution.
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