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Expect My Mom posted:This theory type destroys the entire theme of Part 4 "what if it's a time loop" is the internet's favorite plot point to theorize, along with "what if protagonist is actually bad guy" and "what if protagonist is dying and this is all just a dream"
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Nov 26, 2018 20:54
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Well, there was a time loop, it was just 11 years later and it only looped twice before a small child killed a priest with the vengeful spirit of the priest's brother.
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Nov 26, 2018 20:56
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Funky Valentine posted:Well, there was a time loop, it was just 11 years later and it only looped twice before a small child killed a priest with the vengeful spirit of the priest's brother. he also made the priest paralyze himself first by speeding up his own oxygen poisoning Jolyne raised that kid well, that was a joestar-quality trick
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Nov 26, 2018 20:58
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My theory is that the guy who giorno saved is the boss of passione If you think that's dumb you're gatekeeping me (I was going to post this in the anime thread but there are probably people who do think this)
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Nov 26, 2018 21:00
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I've definitely seen that before and it was the most bafflingly stupid take I've seen, beats time jumping Josuke by a mile.
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Nov 26, 2018 21:02
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The guy who Giorno saved doesn't look anywhere near as stupid as Diavolo does. Where's his weird mesh...pancho...thing?
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Nov 26, 2018 21:02
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somepartsareme posted:My theory is that the guy who giorno saved is the boss of passione
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Nov 26, 2018 21:08
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Expect My Mom posted:Nerds search for answers in fiction constantly. Perhaps its human to seek answers in everything but in my experience, loose ends cannot exist because everything must be documented on excruciating detail on the fan wiki. People have been doing this sort of thing for nearly 2000 years, at least: Suetonius, The Lives of the Twelve Caesars (Tiberius) posted:Yet his special aim was a knowledge of mythology, which he carried to a silly and laughable extreme; for he used to test even the grammarians, a class of men in whom, as I have said, he was especially interested, by questions something like this: "Who was Hecuba's mother?", "What was the name of Achilles among the maidens?", "What were the Sirens in the habit of singing?"
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Nov 26, 2018 21:30
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Funky Valentine posted:The guy who Giorno saved doesn't look anywhere near as stupid as Diavolo does. Where's his weird mesh...pancho...thing? It's called FASHION, nerd, look it up.
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Nov 26, 2018 22:28
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You know, I'm kind of surprised that, of all the weird theories about who the guy who saved Josuke is, no one thought that he might be a ghost? It's not like he wouldn't be the only one in Morioh, and according to the series, a ghost is still a person, so it still fits with the narrative of the people of Morioh helping one another out just because. Being dead wouldn't stop him from being a helpful dude. It ultimately doesn't matter because of reasons we've been over time and again, but the story itself sounds like your average weird ghost story that Araki really likes.
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Nov 26, 2018 22:38
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BaDandy posted:You know, I'm kind of surprised that, of all the weird theories about who the guy who saved Josuke is, no one thought that he might be a ghost? It's not like he wouldn't be the only one in Morioh, and according to the series, a ghost is still a person, so it still fits with the narrative of the people of Morioh helping one another out just because. Being dead wouldn't stop him from being a helpful dude. I’d never thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense. It explains why Josuke never saw him again, at least.
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Nov 26, 2018 22:50
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BaDandy posted:You know, I'm kind of surprised that, of all the weird theories about who the guy who saved Josuke is, no one thought that he might be a ghost? It's not like he wouldn't be the only one in Morioh, and according to the series, a ghost is still a person, so it still fits with the narrative of the people of Morioh helping one another out just because. Being dead wouldn't stop him from being a helpful dude. He can't be a ghost, ghosts end up in the owson corner of sub-reality for all eternity unable to turn around. The passione gangster that inspired Giorno tho? It's josuke 2.0 where araki realized you can simply have a random stranger affect you so greatly that you base an aspect of your personality on their virtue. tying it into any convoluted methods or story beats would utterly ruin both the character's motivations and ring hollow. It would end up like Naruto where instead of championing hardwork over natural talent Naruto is a literally descendant of ninja Jesus. Thus making the entirety of naruto seem like a contradiction, because even with all the hardwork we are shown that natural aptitude trumps it everytime.
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Nov 26, 2018 22:52
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TexMexFoodbaby posted:He can't be a ghost, ghosts end up in the owson corner of sub-reality for all eternity unable to turn around. Dead Man's Questions disagrees.  But like, I do agree that that the guy's origin's ultimately doesn't really matter because his actions are more important.
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Nov 26, 2018 22:56
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I don't remember much about Baby Face 'cept its gross origins and how it ends, but I am super looking forward to seeing that fucker get Black Mamba'd.
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Nov 27, 2018 02:48
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I think it’s more jarring that the guy Giorno saved doesn’t come up again, since Giorno wants to enter his line of work and you’d think he’d want to ask that dude for a recommendation letter or something. Maybe Giorno would have done that, but then he started hustling at the airport, and (basically) killed Luca, setting off the chain of events that led to him joining the mob. Maybe the nameless guy wasn’t part of Passione. I forget the exact timeline but maybe Diavolo didn’t control as much action when Giorno was that young, and there was still room for normal-rear end gangsters with no superpowers and conservative clothing.
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Nov 27, 2018 03:33
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The guy explicitly didn't want Giorno getting involved in the gang world, so maybe Giorno didn't want to ask him directly. Maybe he even did ask and was shot down for it. Who knows?
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Nov 27, 2018 03:50
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TexMexFoodbaby posted:The passione gangster that inspired Giorno tho? It's josuke 2.0 where araki realized you can simply have a random stranger affect you so greatly that you base an aspect of your personality on their virtue. or as is the case with valentine, have a random stranger hype up your dad so much that you become a narcissist
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Nov 27, 2018 06:01
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Zeruel posted:It's called FASHION, nerd, look it up. diavolo's stupid shirt is like the only jojo outfit i don't like that and fugo's swiss cheese pants, but i'm off-and-on on that one
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Nov 27, 2018 06:03
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Diavolos thing is just a mesh top he customized
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Nov 27, 2018 06:08
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Expect My Mom posted:Diavolos thing is just a mesh top he customized it still sucks e: actually i'm not a fan of josefumi's shirt either i guess weird mesh shirts is the line in the sand for me
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Nov 27, 2018 06:11
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How do you feel about anasui's outfit
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Nov 27, 2018 13:56
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If it a top? I thought Diavolo just had sick tats. I dig the tats.
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Nov 27, 2018 16:11
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his tattoos are on his arms but its definitely fabric, you can see how it drapes off his back
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Nov 27, 2018 16:18
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Diavolo looks cool as hell, just a shame he doesn't get much screen time. I kinda hope the anime fleshed him out a little, cuz he could be way more interesting. People are gonna hate him because he's not as good as Kira, though.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:39
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he's not as good as kira but anime-only people were also saying nothing could top dio, so, who really knows where people will be at the end of it all
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Nov 27, 2018 18:41
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There's really not much they can do to make Diavolo less of a lovely villain. He's just going to look even worse when Pucci comes to town.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:43
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he has some cool moments, like the entirety of the metallica fight. it'll be an uphill battle, though, for the anime to somehow work everything into more of a satisfying depiction. they've done well with little extra moments to flesh out stuff so it's hard to tell what they'll end up doing.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:52
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I like his design and King Crimson has a very angry little man on his forehead, so he's at least a foot character to have on screen. His actual role as an antagonist was kind of lame though. I'm wondering what his voice will be, since they aren't gonna use the same guy that did Kira.
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Nov 27, 2018 19:03
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Doppio/Diavolo have the single greatest running gag in the whole series, so they have that going for them, at least.
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Nov 27, 2018 19:24
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Johnny Joestar posted:he's not as good as kira but anime-only people were also saying nothing could top dio, so, who really knows where people will be at the end of it all
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Nov 27, 2018 19:37
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The one moment I hope they do justice is Doppio turning into Diavolo during the Metallica fight, where his eyes roll back and reveal Diavolo's hosed up irises on the other side. Also Doppio freaking out over the severed leg before it becomes clear whose leg it is.
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Nov 27, 2018 21:52
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if nothing else i think the anime is breathing a lot of life into how the situations in part 5 are portrayed so i'm hopeful that it'll at least somewhat outweigh my overall dislike of the climactic fight and like. everything to do with requiem stands.
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Nov 27, 2018 23:19
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I don't think the anime can do anything about the arrow being from space and stands are actually weird aliens or whatever the hell that was. Actually thinking about it, I never read the good translation of that. Was it any better?
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Nov 27, 2018 23:23
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It's too bad la squadra didn't know the intent of bruno's gang or else they could have worked together Risotto Nero got robbed
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Nov 28, 2018 00:00
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FirstAidKite posted:It's too bad la squadra didn't know the intent of bruno's gang or else they could have worked together Well they were kind of assholes.
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Nov 28, 2018 06:22
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if the arrow gives you midichlorians what was darth vader's stand???
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Nov 28, 2018 07:21
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Funky Valentine posted:There's really not much they can do to make Diavolo less of a lovely villain. I don't mind Diavolo, but everything I like about him is either Doppio or King Crimson, not so much Diavolo himself. If that makes sense.
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Nov 28, 2018 10:23
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Diavolo himself just doesn’t have much of a personality. He has goals and some traits but there’s nothing interesting about him outside of his spilt personality.
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Nov 28, 2018 11:56
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I like Diavolo's impossible backstory. It's cool that he's a mystery man trying to destroy all traces of his past and even when we get like an objective flashback to his past it's still got holes and doesn't quite add up.
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Yeah, Diavolo is basically just like It's like if someone decided that they wanted to reject their humanity in entirety and become a force of nature, something with no ties back to humans in any way, shape, or form, something that could live and control from the top and be recognized as this controlling force without actually having to exist in that position physically. It's like he is directly attempting to become just like Fate and Gravity.
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