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Pretty sure the writers view Minfilia, Lyse, and Papalymo as cruft from 1.0 and that’s why they’re largely being cleared off the board as time goes on. The nuScions are a much better JRPG party.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Yeah, Lyse is pretty bad. As Yda she was just Papalymo's sidekick that punched people. Then she had a bit of development in 3.55, and then ran the Ala Mhigan resistance because *reasons*. Nepotism.
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I definitely want to see more of Fordola. I'm a sucker for redemption character arcs. (I also like how she looks very similar to my Highlady character so she's her cousin in my headcanon.)Cythereal posted:Yes, and I still loathe him. He's not as terrible now as he used to be, but I'd much rather spend time with characters I actually like, like Y'shtola, Alisae, Lyse, Hien, and Yugiri.  Nice red text you got there.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Pretty sure the writers view Minfilia, Lyse, and Papalymo as cruft from 1.0 and that’s why they’re largely being cleared off the board as time goes on. I'm not as big of a fan of Y'shtola as many people seem to be, but I do appreciate how the group's designated Healer is sick of everyone's poo poo.
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Whether one likes the remaining Scions or not, they’re primarily the ones who Do Things and have developed personalities and motivations. Even Thancred, probably the least developed of the lot, has an easy in: Stripped of aether, he’s most likely going to be the man on the ground for empathizing with the Garlean experience of being magicless in a magical world. In other words, they kept the characters that you can actually tell stories with.
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DizzyBum posted:I definitely want to see more of Fordola. I'm a sucker for redemption character arcs. (I also like how she looks very similar to my Highlady character so she's her cousin in my headcanon.) Yeah, same here. I'm hoping that her underutilization in the post-4.0 story was just her being saved for Shadowbringers. I think she's a legitimately interesting character with a lot of storytelling potential, but it felt like her (and most of Ala Mhigo, to be honest) got sidelined by all of the Doma/Garlemald poo poo. I feel like it'd also help to set the tone for Shadowbringers more if they specifically gave you an eclectic Dirty Dozen-style group of companions with conflicting personalities, hard pasts, and questionable loyalties over another expansion of only ever having a group of Good People that agree with eachother 98% of the time following you around.
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Vermain posted:Yeah, same here. I'm hoping that her underutilization in the post-4.0 story was just her being saved for Shadowbringers. I think she's a legitimately interesting character with a lot of storytelling potential, but it felt like her (and most of Ala Mhigo, to be honest) got sidelined by all of the Doma/Garlemald poo poo. I feel like it'd also help to set the tone for Shadowbringers more if they specifically gave you an eclectic Dirty Dozen-style group of companions with conflicting personalities, hard pasts, and questionable loyalties over another expansion of only ever having a group of Good People that agree with eachother 98% of the time following you around. Not to mention that with the whole Trust system, you can bring them into dungeons with you. Hell yeah I wanna go solo a dungeon with Fordola, Y'shtola and Alisae.
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Vermain posted:I feel like it'd also help to set the tone for Shadowbringers more if they specifically gave you an eclectic Dirty Dozen-style group of companions with conflicting personalities, hard pasts, and questionable loyalties over another expansion of only ever having a group of Good People that agree with eachother 98% of the time following you around. So what you're saying is, after 4.5 causes WoL to go grimdark we break Fordola, Laurentius and Yuyuhase out of jail, and then head off to Garlemald to meet up with Shadowhunter, Maxima, and elf-Zenos to form a band of bastards. Then we wait to see who turns on who first. Also Karasu is there.
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I love Yuyuhase because of his bizarrely deep Japanese voice, so anything involving more of him sounds good to me.
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So what's the chance of light avatar Minfilla being the final boss of Shadowbringers?
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Nov 28, 2018 00:03
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The final boss of Shadowbringers is the warrior of light, after the game forces a fantasia on you and makes you play as a new person, the warrior of darkness.
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Nov 28, 2018 00:06
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I'd completely forgotten that we have both Zenos-body-not zenos and also Zenos-elfboy
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:
Argath was good but Yiazmat's cockney accent was so much better.
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Fordola is gonna be the scions' She-Ra and provide all the layouts and poo poo to Garlean compounds
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CYBEReris posted:Fordola is gonna be the scions' She-Ra and provide all the layouts and poo poo to Garlean compounds That's kind of too late to be useful isn't it? It's not like she's left Ala Mhigo as far we know.
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KoB posted:I'd completely forgotten that we have both Zenos-body-not zenos and also Zenos-elfboy
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Asimo posted:So what's the chance of light avatar spoilers, dawg
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if fordola doesn't become the scions' newest, grumpiest member before shadowbringers i will cancel my subscription in protest
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Nov 28, 2018 00:27
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all the fordola-likers will know my pain when Shadowbringers sets her up to be important and then imprisons her in the 5.X eureka analogue like Krile was
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Krile is the official sidequest Scion. First the Warring Triad and now Eureka.
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I don't like either Fordola or Yotsuyu as characters, both the redemption and amnesia arcs respectively just felt forced to me. As for Fordola she just feels very predictable and boring and I keep hoping she'd be killed off by sacrificing herself for a true redemption moment or something, I find her about as interesting as Lyse, which is not at all. Personally rooting for Alisae and Arenvald to be our main adventurer buddies for shadowbrigners.
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Creampie Warehouse sounds like an adult pastry shop.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Creampie Warehouse sounds like an adult pastry shop. Ah you too have seen Van Wilder
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Bolow posted:Ah you too have seen Van Wilder Well there is a reference I didn't think I'd hear again, and I wish I didn't 
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What was supposed to be the oomph of Summoner at 50? Did they just not have one? Every thing seems kinda weirdly flat without the building to Dreadwyrm Trance aspect.
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Three dots and then fester a few times a minute. They weren't exciting. e: No one really had stuff to build up for until Heavensward. BLMs just spammed Fire 1 with the occasional 3, DRGs just rotated through their combos, MNKs just punched faster, etc. Orcs and Ostriches fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 02:41
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Can't really find a good answer on this but if I've got 2 level 54 classes and im about to enter praetorium should I buy ironworks gear or save the poetics for shire gear? At the moment I'm just wearing the stuff you get from the level 50 job quests. Just not exactly sure how valuable poetics are at this point.
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You don't need Ironworks for Prae, which would just be obsoleted at the level 55 dungeon anyways. Get someone to buy you a vendor set out of the Heavensward town, and your level pre-60 set is dealt with.
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A full suite of Ironworks gear is good for alt jobs. Otherwise, yeah, just save up for shire stuff. A full suit of augmented shire gear will last you until 65 or so realistically. Unless you're a tank, in which case you want to replace that poo poo ASAP.
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DoubleNegative posted:A full suite of Ironworks gear is good for alt jobs. Otherwise, yeah, just save up for shire stuff. A full suit of augmented shire gear will last you until 65 or so realistically. Unless you're a tank, in which case you want to replace that poo poo FTFY. There's that two-level gap where if you're good, you can keep using Ironworks with a slightly heavier load on your healers, but the final boss of The Vault is kind of an assbeater. For SB content, replace "Ironworks" with "Shire" and "final boss of The Vault" with "Bardam's"
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keirharder posted:Can't really find a good answer on this but if I've got 2 level 54 classes and im about to enter praetorium should I buy ironworks gear or save the poetics for shire gear? At the moment I'm just wearing the stuff you get from the level 50 job quests. Just not exactly sure how valuable poetics are at this point. By the time you hit Level 60, you should reasonably have enough Poetics for Shire. Buy the Ironworks stuff because there's quite a bit of content between Praetorium and the end of Heavensward.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Three dots and then fester a few times a minute. I'm glad they fixed that. It didn't work out well for every class (sorry Paladin friends) but in general it's very fun to build to a super move. Or at least feel like you have a Big Number Attack somewhere in your DPS kit.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:FTFY. There's that two-level gap where if you're good, you can keep using Ironworks with a slightly heavier load on your healers, but the final boss of The Vault is kind of an assbeater. I'm still mad about the tank yesterday who was doing Vault yesterday in significantly sub-Ironworks gear and blamed me for "spamming Physick" onto his non-HP-having rear end, and for "not having my fairy out" because it happened to have died to the final boss the one second he happned to be paying attention to what was going on.
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SonicRulez posted:I'm glad they fixed that. It didn't work out well for every class (sorry Paladin friends) but in general it's very fun to build to a super move. Or at least feel like you have a Big Number Attack somewhere in your DPS kit. Paladins, while not being perfect, are still a universe better than ARR 50 paladin.
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Thanks everyone! I might get some ironworks stuff for paladin and wait until I can access better stuff soon for everything else. I’m not really tanking any of the 45+ stuff I’m unlocking atm as going into things blind as a tank seems pretty painful.
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Speaking of big moves, I finally managed to cobble together a set of keybinds for bard that doesn't feel like hell to use and goddamn, I'm a fan of Barrage + Empyreal Arrow.
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Cabbit posted:Speaking of big moves, I finally managed to cobble together a set of keybinds for bard that doesn't feel like hell to use and goddamn, I'm a fan of Barrage + Empyreal Arrow. Just wait until Barrage + Refulgent Arrow.
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RDM is God's special, perfect class and I'm ready to fight anyone that thinks another DPS class is better.
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Wolpertinger posted:Paladins, while not being perfect, are still a universe better than ARR 50 paladin. I can't figure why they didn't move Royal Authority when they did the Stormblood skill shake up. It's painful trying to DPS as a PLD at 50.
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