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Your Taint posted:God I hope some indictments drop today. Is outright accusing them of trying to suborn perjury a new line? Probably, right?
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This almost feels like a cliche comic book thing, like Muller is some sort of Batman-esque character who is explaining to his protege how criminals are a stupid and cowardly lot, and we can get them to lead us right to the head. Yet, it’s working. All we need is Trump yelling “Drat! How did he find us here?” when they walk in the door with indictments in hand.
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Wilhelm posted:Some pretty brazen retweets by Donnie today including a: There is a wild undercurrent of American Conservatism that basically sees immigrants as a resource to be exploited for the benefit of America. A sort of reverse-colonialism, if you will.
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When he talks about the McCarthy era, it's notable that Roy Cohn was Trump's mentor.Wilhelm posted:Some pretty brazen retweets by Donnie today including a: It's his Stormy/Melania policy.
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Ripoff posted:This almost feels like a cliche comic book thing, like Muller is some sort of Batman-esque character who is explaining to his protege how criminals are a stupid and cowardly lot, and we can get them to lead us right to the head. Yet, it’s working. It’s almost as if Mueller is competent. But he’s not rich, therefore he can’t be competent or smart. Quite a conundrum.
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Wilhelm posted:Some pretty brazen retweets by Donnie today including a: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1067775734234656768
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Ripoff posted:This almost feels like a cliche comic book thing, like Muller is some sort of Batman-esque character who is explaining to his protege how criminals are a stupid and cowardly lot, and we can get them to lead us right to the head. Yet, it’s working. Yeah, it's just as likely the guy handling the Manafort plea forgot to include the gag order in the paperwork and this entire investigation has just been completely hosed by a paperwork error. That's a lot more believable.
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Ripoff posted:This almost feels like a cliche comic book thing, like Muller is some sort of Batman-esque character who is explaining to his protege how criminals are a stupid and cowardly lot, and we can get them to lead us right to the head. Yet, it’s working. Republican institution known for projection turns it's focus onto other republicans and finds themselves capable of actually getting into the criminal's mindset for once!
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The guy investigating me and my deputy Attorney General should be tried for treason.
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Ringo Star Get posted:That Boris Epshtyn Guy is 36 years old?! Christ he looks like he’s about to hit 55. It’s great to see that being a soul-sucking ghoul of a person ages you a full decade or so. Jesus Christ, how is he the same age as me?
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there's a sealed lawsuit making its way up on appeal from some still-unknown person trying to avoid testifying to the grand jury, so matt miller might have a point here https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/1067776493999271937 https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/1067778143036063745 also roger stone has no idea what the SCO is asking people to do
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Chilichimp posted:Yeah, it's just as likely the guy handling the Manafort plea forgot to include the gag order in the paperwork and this entire investigation has just been completely hosed by a paperwork error. no offense but it's really not loving likely at all that someone just 'forgot' to add a gag order they used in other pleas, 'the guy handling the Manafort plea' is a team of the most experienced prosecutors the DOJ has
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Ripoff posted:This almost feels like a cliche comic book thing, like Muller is some sort of Batman-esque character who is explaining to his protege how criminals are a stupid and cowardly lot, and we can get them to lead us right to the head. Yet, it’s working.
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Easy Diff posted:"CITY LAUGHS AT TRUMP'S BONER" "I'LL SHOW THEM HOW MANY BONERS THE DONALD CAN MAKE!"
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eke out posted:no offense but it's really not loving likely at all that someone just 'forgot' to add a gag order they used in other pleas, 'the guy handling the Manafort plea' is a team of the most experienced prosecutors the DOJ has And a few years ago Elvis Dumervil left Denver and played for the Ravens because his extremely high priced sports agent couldn't get his fax machine to work and his deal window expired. I'm not saying it's the likeliest thing, but "Mueller is batman lawyer and x-men prosecutors who have acme box/stick/string trapped the president in lies" feels like a stretch right now. Yes, even with Giuliani giving him legal advice. I want it to be true, but it seeeeeeeeems like hope in a world where I learned to stop hoping for poo poo a while ago.
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quote:“It’s all fear-based, and frankly it’s based upon selfishness — ‘I’m going to lose something by them coming in,’” Bundy said of the anti-migrant rhetoric. “I think that’s incorrect. But also to base your arguments or your motives or your actions upon fear is a very dangerous thing to do.” Even Ammon Bundy sounds sane compared to Trump 
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Chilichimp posted:And a few years ago Elvis Dumervil left Denver and played for the Ravens because his extremely high priced sports agent couldn't get his fax machine to work and his deal window expired. There's a reasonable middle ground where they knew this was a possibility and acted accordingly—being careful to avoid telling Manafort anything they wouldn't be comfortable with Trump knowing, then seeing what happened—but were not executing some devious master plan to catch trump in a lie.
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Bubbacub posted:Even Ammon Bundy sounds sane compared to Trump How frequently do cattle ranchers employ undocumented workers and benefit from the lack of payroll taxes? skylined! fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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skylined! posted:How frequently to cattle ranchers employ undocumented workers and benefit from the lack of payroll taxes? Great point; only when a situation explicitly effects a Republican does it acknowledge the nature of the problem it refused to even see before.
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skylined! posted:How frequently to cattle ranchers employ undocumented workers and benefit from the lack of payroll taxes? This is it. He became friends with some of the undocumented workers he employed. Conservative empathy is just personal experience.
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skylined! posted:How frequently do cattle ranchers employ undocumented workers and benefit from the lack of payroll taxes? Farmers use underpaid undocumented work approximately 100% of the time
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one of my favorite things to come of this are tweets like https://twitter.com/Mimirocah1/status/1067625264497205249 suggesting we've potentially moved into "criminal liability for the lawyers involved" territory also saw one former AUSA that was like "I used to work for Rudy Giuliani, and if we saw this conduct when he was the US Attorney he would undoubtedly order us to investigate the attorneys involved for conspiracy to obstruct justice" to me, this absolutely bullshit leaked story implies his lawyers are aware they need cover stories https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1067652069895614464
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Bubbacub posted:Even Ammon Bundy sounds sane compared to Trump What the gently caress are you eve... 
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eke out posted:There's a reasonable middle ground where they knew this was a possibility and acted accordingly—being careful to avoid telling Manafort anything they wouldn't be comfortable with Trump knowing, then seeing what happened—but were not executing some devious master plan to catch trump in a lie. That seems possible. I tend to agree that if the gag was not included, there was a reason, if only because when you draft these things you use the one you did right before it as a template, so it takes effort to *exclude*, not *include* -- anything not in one document that was in other prior similar documents, drafted by the same people, has been excluded for *some* reason. That reason might be "whoops, misclicked" but the default is to include. Plus, it's important to remember that once you're a guilty criminal being prosecuted, there are *lots* of different ways for you to gently caress up. Like, it's not *hard* for the prosecutor to get you to gently caress up. You're already in a hole, with a shovel, with lots of folks watching. There are a lot of different directions you can dig in at that point but none of them are "up."
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Ripoff posted:This almost feels like a cliche comic book thing, like Muller is some sort of Batman-esque character who is explaining to his protege how criminals are a stupid and cowardly lot, and we can get them to lead us right to the head. Yet, it’s working. Bugs Meany could fool Trump. Ol' Donnie would have bought the General Custer Saber inscribed with "First Battle of Bull Run" on it. (I hope someone gets that joke)
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Terror Sweat posted:I mean, I wouldn’t mind if all those people were locked up for life Why? At least half of them havnt done anything
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:That is actually a phenomenon that has been remarked on before about conservatives prematurely aging. See also Stephen Miller. Ooh maybe this is where the thing from Alice Isn't Dead where hateful men slowly morph into spite golems comes from
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Terror Sweat posted:I mean, I wouldn’t mind if all those people were locked up for life What did Huma do?
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CyberPingu posted:Why? At least half of them havnt done anything Who in that picture hasn’t enabled war crimes or jailed the poor?
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Ague Proof posted:What did Huma do? Vagina, worked with Hillary
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Munkeymon posted:Thing is that, according to the least old data I could find (page 322) abolishing ICE still isn't real popular unless you're young, latino and/or pretty lefty. As I said in an earlier post, it might be far enough from the next election to make an unpopular principled stand, but I'm not sure the average not- Considering that "abolish ICE" is only a few months old, and that it arose organically as a mass movement while both the media and the majority of Dem politicians still treat it as a crazy proposal from radical loonies, 26% support (plus 17% with no opinion and 16% saying they don't know) is a lot higher than I expected. To put it another way, only 40% of respondents said they'd be less likely to vote for someone who wanted to abolish ICE. That's actually pretty impressive considering how little mainstream support the issue has gotten! Notice also that it plays especially well among the Dem base and among groups the Dems really need to mobilize. The under-30 demographic supports it 35-24, liberals support it 46-20, Hispanics support it 45-22, African-Americans support it 30-20, and people who dislike Trump support it 37-21. Yes, I know that none of those add up to anywhere near 100% - "Don't know" and "Don't care" made up a very large portion of responses, which suggests that there's plenty of room for support to grow and that opposition has been heavily overstated. Imagine how much higher it would poll if top liberals tried to make a case for it, instead of handwaving it away as a fringe position.
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1glitch0 posted:Yeah, it's been awhile since I followed internet ad revenue closely, but even if they were paying for click-throughs to an actual purchase of an NRA yearly membership or whatever they aren't paying 13 bucks for it. Maybe that's info the NRA is releasing to donors to help explain why they're losing money? You're right that at best they're paying less than a buck per click, and probably significantly less unless the NRA and Google has some weird money laundering scheme set up. Or the whole story is ripe bullshit, but 13 bucks is on the level of "How much can a banana cost, Michael? 10 dollars?" level of ludicrous. It really really really depends on the search term. The reason I think that $13 per click is probably true is anyone searching for information about NRA membership levels is extremely likely to be right wing and susceptible to donating in response to made up fears. In other words they are the most prime target possible for right-wing grifting charities. They don't have to even give; just their contact information is worth a good chunk of money because the grifters make money renting out their list of suckers to other grifters. That would bid up the ad space significantly. I bet the per conversion rate would be three figures and that would be a loving deal compared to how much money these people can wring out of someone.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Bugs Meany could fool Trump. Ol' Donnie would have bought the General Custer Saber inscribed with "First Battle of Bull Run" on it. The Case of the Oft-Swindled President
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Howie Carr Is Deplorable—and He Couldn’t Be Happier From fearless journalist to Trump’s loudest fan. Did he sell out, or buy in? quote:The VIP experience turns out to be a minor scam. The meet-and-greet consists of you shaking Howie’s hand, getting one of his books—plus a pair of plastic “lock her up” handcuffs—then being shuffled off the receiving line. In fact, most of these VIPs are not VIPs by choice. When Howie announces a Deplorables Show, his website offers only VIP tickets, one of which I bought for $75. Later, he releases “Cheap Bastard” tickets—for this performance, $35—which entitle fans to the exact same show, minus the receiving line. https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2018/11/27/howie-carr/
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