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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I like king of the hill, and it is a good show. Fight me. KotH is legit decent. I somewhat regret coming late to the party. It's actually remarkably consistent in quality pretty much all throughout, which is insane considering how long the show was running. Though Bobby definitely sucks.
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theflyingorc posted:Don't laugh because you have a real basic lack of understanding of language lol I mean I disagree that it's about linguistics, when it's actually about ideology. The decision to frame American politics in terms of "liberals versus conservatives" is an ideological choice that I think is bad.
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Lightning Knight posted:I don't think I would agree with this. It's just that the things the right satirizes either don't really exist as such or aren't problems in the way they claim they are. For example, I would characterize Demolition Man as right-wing satire, but what it satirizes (namely "political correctness" and the "feminization of culture") either doesn't exist or isn't a real problem. You're putting too much thought into this. Good satire cuts both ways, intentionally. You have to let the audience laugh at itself as it cracks up about something much more funny. All of the conservative satire I've ever seen is simply "we're always right because we're better, point and laugh at these lesser people." That might work for a few minutes, but as good humor, it's flat as hell, and boring after the third joke. VVV Fair enough. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Nov 29, 2018 |
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Nov 29, 2018 06:09
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KickerOfMice posted:You're putting too much thought into this. Good satire cuts both ways, intentionally. You have to let the audience laugh at itself as it cracks up about something much more funny. All of the conservative satire I've ever seen is simply "we're always right because we're better, point and laugh at these lesser people." That might work for a few minutes, but as good humor, it's flat as hell, and boring after the third joke. I mean this is an argument that right-wing satire is always bad, which I agree with. The thing I disagreed with was that it doesn't exist.
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Nov 29, 2018 06:12
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King of the Hill did an episode about visiting Wichita Falls, Texas, which means it's the greatest show ever and also I have exclusive rights to discuss the program because I lived there for a while.
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Nov 29, 2018 06:13
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I've always liked king of the hill. I think Alex Jones saw an episode focusing on Dale and realized: "yes, this is my calling!"  Gay frogs...
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Nov 29, 2018 06:16
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1glitch0 posted:And I'm sure the tear gas company just randomly opened their checkbook one day and picked a name out of the air and gave them 5 grand. Maybe it'll be me next! Five grand might be a lot to you or I, but it's worth zilch in modern campaign expenses. That's a "we wanted our name on your donor list", not "Hello, senator, we'd like a moment of your time" amount.
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Nov 29, 2018 06:20
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KickerOfMice posted:I've always liked king of the hill. I think Alex Jones saw an episode focusing on Dale and realized: "yes, this is my calling!" 
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Nov 29, 2018 06:24
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Harik posted:This is such a weird sentiment, because that's basically exactly how it works? There's 5-700 people at any given time that are good candidates for donations, and you pick from that list. If you want the bribes, run for office and look like you might be in a position to possibly win and possibly influence legislation that impacts a company. Companies (that are not complete shitgibbons) often bothsides campaigns just to be sure they've given to the winner, because it's about connections and networking with the people in power more than exactly which people are in power. Democratic politicians should probably not accept money from corporations at all, but they definitely shouldn't accept money from the MIC.
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Nov 29, 2018 06:26
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Lightning Knight posted:Democratic politicians should probably not accept money from corporations at all, but they definitely shouldn't accept money from the MIC. The guy donated, not the company, is there any politician that audits or does employment checks on personal donations? That seems crazy. If it was a six million dollar business investment they should know who it is, but who is going to investigate one name on 178 pages of donations to know if each person has good or bad employment?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:The guy donated, not the company, is there any politician that audits or does employment checks on personal donations? That seems crazy. If it was a six million dollar business investment they should know who it is, but who is going to investigate one name on 178 pages of donations to know if each person has good or bad employment? quote:The couple is socially active in New York and Aspen. The two are listed as “President’s Society” donors at the Aspen Institute, where Booker is a fellow. Several Aspen Institute members belonged to the Booker fundraiser host committee along with the Kanderses. Warren Kanders is also a vice chair of the Whitney, where his wife, Allison, has co-chaired the museum’s annual gala, where she has been photographed with celebrities such as Sting. From the article. I do expect a sitting US Senator to know who is giving him money, since they have to keep track of that stuff anyways for campaign finance laws. But it's not like these are two random people Cory Booker has never heard of.
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Crabtree posted:The aliens that visited us died out when they elected their own Trump. The death drive often visits sapient species in the guise of a regressive shitfuck elemental that often takes the form of Trump across the universe. Make The Filter Great Again
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Lightning Knight posted:From the article. You’d think the Tear Gas people would be able to get support from more of The Police.
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Nov 29, 2018 06:44
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Lightning Knight posted:Part of me is genuinely curious if the fact that Trump hasn't blabbed about aliens means they don't exist or if the CIA just didn't tell him about the aliens. Since he won't read past the first three lines of a bullet-point list, all they'd have to do to keep something secret is bury it in the middle of a big report.
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Nov 29, 2018 06:47
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Lightning Knight posted:Part of me is genuinely curious if the fact that Trump hasn't blabbed about aliens means they don't exist or if the CIA just didn't tell him about the aliens. personally i lean towards the first one, rand paul's best comment in his entire life notwithstanding
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haveblue posted:Make The Filter Great Again 
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GreyjoyBastard posted:personally i lean towards the first one, rand paul's best comment in his entire life notwithstanding Please enlighten me here. 
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Lightning Knight posted:Please enlighten me here. https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/944593625597599745 Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Nov 29, 2018 |
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Nov 29, 2018 06:55
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Esplanade posted:Gonna steal this concept for a new spy movie franchise: Thunderpants already exists.
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Crabtree posted:The aliens that visited us died out when they elected their own Trump. The death drive often visits sapient species in the guise of a regressive shitfuck elemental that often takes the form of Trump across the universe. you're almost right - the Great Filter is Ted Cruz, and it's as baffled as the rest of us right now
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Nov 29, 2018 07:04
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Lightning Knight posted:From the article. Can you name anything ever that does a person by person check of the political alignment of each minor personal donation to make sure it aligns with the campaign? Like for big two way deals absolutely, but has there ever been anything that picks and chooses to accept or reject individual personal donations at that low a level?
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Nov 29, 2018 07:09
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Can you name anything ever that does a person by person check of the political alignment of each minor personal donation to make sure it aligns with the campaign? Even if we accept this premise for a moment and that it's impossible for them to track things like that, which I don't believe we should, he should now return every cent they gave him and not accept any more.
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Nov 29, 2018 07:16
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Lightning Knight posted:Democratic politicians should probably not accept money from corporations at all, but they definitely shouldn't accept money from the MIC. Making less lethal weapons is, if not a good, then a neutral activity, morally. Of course they are misused on nonviolent protesters by lazy/bored cops, but I bet that, for example, the Kent State Massacre wouldn't have been a massacre if tear gas, pepper spray and whatnot was readily available instead of rifles and bayonets. Anyway, it's a small thing compared to Booker's friendliness with the parts of his constituency who are in the finance industry, which is a much more likely source of counterrevolutionary ideas 
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Harik posted:This is such a weird sentiment, because that's basically exactly how it works? There's 5-700 people at any given time that are good candidates for donations, and you pick from that list. If you want the bribes, run for office and look like you might be in a position to possibly win and possibly influence legislation that impacts a company. Companies (that are not complete shitgibbons) often bothsides campaigns just to be sure they've given to the winner, because it's about connections and networking with the people in power more than exactly which people are in power. I'm aware that's how it works, what is your point? And it's a bit more than some rando giving money since: Lightning Knight posted:From the article. While you're correct that 5k isn't a lot of money in the grand scheme of things I think you're mistaken in how much it takes to bribe a congressperson. They usually aren't doing it for a pallet of a hundred dollar bills unloaded on the docks, but for a lettuce and shrimp lunch. Someone else can probably post one of the many articles where a congressperson basically sold out the country and committed serious crimes for like 75k. I, personally, wouldn't take any contribution from a weapons manufacturer and having them be on my fundraising host committee, but I guess that's why I'm not preparing to run for president in 2 years.
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Munkeymon posted:Making less lethal weapons is, if not a good, then a neutral activity, morally. Of course they are misused on nonviolent protesters by lazy/bored cops, but I bet that, for example, the Kent State Massacre wouldn't have been a massacre if tear gas, pepper spray and whatnot was readily available instead of rifles and bayonets. I think this is hugely overly charitable to policing as an institution and the military-industrial complex and buys into the idea that something being less than lethal legitimizes the use of force by the state against civilians otherwise. I am not arguing that Booker took a significant amount of money from them, just that on principle he should accept zero from them. If he can't pre-screen them, then he should return their money once it is brought to his attention. If he truly believes tear gassing civilians on the border is bad, he should not accept money from the people making the tear gas.
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Munkeymon posted:Making less lethal weapons is, if not a good, then a neutral activity, morally. Of course they are misused on nonviolent protesters by lazy/bored cops, but I bet that, for example, the Kent State Massacre wouldn't have been a massacre if tear gas, pepper spray and whatnot was readily available instead of rifles and bayonets. It's not necessarily good or neutral in the long run. The Kent State massacre was horrific and a mass shooting by the government on protestors has not been authorized on a college campus since. Meanwhile a college kid was shot with electricity (Don't taze me, bro!) and it has been a meme people on all sides of the political spectrum have giggled about for over a decade and the behavior has continued because enough people find it acceptable or actually funny. Giving fascists non-lethal means of controlling people just normalizes the behavior of suppressing dissent and diffusing the outrage it should bring. It's the same reason I thought the proliferation of drone use was so terrible. The only possible way to decrease the amount of unnecessary death in needless wars is American sons and daughters coming back in body bags. Once they could just drive to work, play a glorified video game, and be home for dinner, there's not much incentive for a lot of people to stop it.
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I wouldn't really disagree that my ideal candidates would reject money from the likes of weapons manufacturers (lethal or nonlethal). Holding them accountable to reject every small personal donation seems a little harsher but at the very least if its a small donation it shouldn't be much for him to return it and make a statement. But I think linking it to the border assaults is intellectually dishonest at best. If its a problem its a problem because of the broader issue of where you get your money, not because it gives Booker some kind of culpability in gassing children at the border.
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STAC Goat posted:But I think linking it to the border assaults is intellectually dishonest at best. If its a problem its a problem because of the broader issue of where you get your money, not because it gives Booker some kind of culpability in gassing children at the border. I don't think him taking money from the manufacturers makes him in any way responsible for what happened at the border, but I think if he expects to score political points for commenting on it and condemning it, he shouldn't be taking that money or he just looks silly. This goes for all Democratic politicians, because I'm sure Cory Booker probably isn't the only one doing this. God knows what Mark Warner's loving donations look like.
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Comrade Fakename posted:The fact that UFO sightings didn’t massively increase once everyone started carrying cameras around with them at all times pretty much confirms that alien UFOs never existed. Eh... if there were actual aliens visiting, wouldn't they just be more careful, so as to avoid being photographed?
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Lightning Knight posted:I don't think him taking money from the manufacturers makes him in any way responsible for what happened at the border, but I think if he expects to score political points for commenting on it and condemning it, he shouldn't be taking that money or he just looks silly. This goes for all Democratic politicians, because I'm sure Cory Booker probably isn't the only one doing this. God knows what Mark Warner's loving donations look like. Well like I said, if they were small personal donations then he should probably not have a huge problem returning them and saying something (although I'm still confused of how much money he actually got/returned from that article). Its not really a make or break thing for me but I'd totally understand that criticism. But like I'm not sure I consider it dishonest or hypocritical or anything to say "I oppose gassing refuge children at the border" but not oppose the existence, sale, or use of tear gas itself. Even if I would probably prefer he (or whatever candidate I theoretically am supporting) probably do both. I guess. I don't know. The merit of non-lethal weaponry existing at all seems like a can of worms and a huge other debate that I'm not even sure I know where I stand on.
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FBS posted:King of the Hill did an episode about visiting Wichita Falls, Texas, which means it's the greatest show ever and also I have exclusive rights to discuss the program because I lived there for a while. I've been living in a hotel on this stupid airbase for 6 months. Plus side: Met a lot of really good taxi drivers who hate the everloving gently caress out of Cruz.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Eh... if there were actual aliens visiting, wouldn't they just be more careful, so as to avoid being photographed? if they can be careful enough to avoid being photographed now, with cameras literally everywhere, then why were they not careful 60 years ago?
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Look, earth has some really good weed and lead in its gas and - things got a little funny.
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The biggest problem with aliens is that if there are some cosmic intelligent beings that can travel across the vastness of space and visit billions of stars and worlds then why would they give a poo poo about us? Either we are all alone in the universe and very very unique and special, or there is lots of life all over and we are hopelessly boring and common. If it is anywhere in between that, and there are a few other instances of life scattered around the universe, then we will never know or communicate with another one anyway so its no different from there being zero.
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STAC Goat posted:Well like I said, if they were small personal donations then he should probably not have a huge problem returning them and saying something (although I'm still confused of how much money he actually got/returned from that article). Its not really a make or break thing for me but I'd totally understand that criticism. I respect this opinion.
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If we really wanna make a big impact on the universe, we should just start launching probes full of the hardiest bacteria and extremophiles we can find all over the loving place at every big rock we can see. Then maybe in 10M years there will be aliens.
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Lightning Knight posted:I'd be a little miffed! I want to know the answer to the Fermi Paradox!
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thegalagakid posted:I've been living in a hotel on this stupid airbase for 6 months. Plus side: Met a lot of really good taxi drivers who hate the everloving gently caress out of Cruz. Where on earth are you taking taxi rides to?
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:I strongly suspect that the answer to the paradox is that there is no other intelligent life. See this doesn’t make sense to me unless there’s something glaringly wrong about our understanding of science and evolution. I choose to believe it’s the Mass Effect/Dead Space solution and there’s an incomprehensible galactic apex predator that factory farms life as it develops space travel.
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Lightning Knight posted:See this doesn’t make sense to me unless there’s something glaringly wrong about our understanding of science and evolution. IIRC, mitochondria happened exactly one way, one time. Probably loads of single celled whatevers though.
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