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cinci zoo sniper posted:Martial law is 30 days and affects only select regions. Offer void in Nebraska
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Martial law is 30 days and affects only select regions. Kharkov?
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Nov 27, 2018 04:25
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Flannelette posted:Kharkov? Yup, you have family there? It goes into effect tomorrow.
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Nov 27, 2018 04:29
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HorrificExistence posted:Yup, you have family there? It goes into effect tomorrow. Just a online friend I hadn't heard anything from in a little while but should be fine since it says it only goes into full effect if Russia actually does something.
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Nov 27, 2018 05:04
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It was all Russian hybrid warfare bullshittery; they're too broke to afford a serious push for more Ukrainian territory.
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Nov 27, 2018 05:37
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I was in Chernihiv oblast during Peace Corps training. Surreal to see it on the map as under martial law (lol law in Ukraine).
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Nov 27, 2018 08:26
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Martial law is 30 days and affects only select regions. Yeah, if Poroshenko wanted to use it to postpone elections, the plan's failed. For now anyway.
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Nov 27, 2018 08:48
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Paladinus posted:Yeah, if Poroshenko wanted to use it to postpone elections, the plan's failed. For now anyway. So far the response seems adequate, but there will be questions if he tried to extend it.
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Nov 27, 2018 08:50
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Office Pig posted:And for something extra cursed: Bloodthristy Large Adult Sons united
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Nov 27, 2018 09:00
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totally natural confession you got there https://twitter.com/Ruptly/status/1067345468953427968
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Nov 28, 2018 00:03
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HorrificExistence posted:totally natural confession you got there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufnWLVQcKg
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Nov 28, 2018 00:08
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 I, Chief O'Brien formerly confess to committing provocative crimes against the Cardassian people and deeply regret my actions.
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Nov 28, 2018 00:25
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Speaking of torture, apparently there are multiple clinics in Moscow and St. Petersburg performing and advertising female genital mutilation "services".
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Nov 28, 2018 16:35
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cinci zoo sniper posted:That's quite an audio clip. It was straight out of peculiarities of national fishing lol. My country is such a goddamn joke. 
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Nov 28, 2018 19:11
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Ephemeron posted:Speaking of torture, apparently there are multiple clinics in Moscow and St. Petersburg performing and advertising female genital mutilation "services". Are they capitalizing on people from other countries where that's a thing or is it catching on among ethnic Russians?
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Nov 28, 2018 21:37
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BattleMaster posted:Are they capitalizing on people from other countries where that's a thing or is it catching on among ethnic Russians? It might be a reverse psychology thing where Russian xenophobes open fake clinics to scare regular Russians. Putin is notoriously anti-circumcision.
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Nov 28, 2018 21:54
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qkkl posted:It might be a reverse psychology thing where Russian xenophobes open fake clinics to scare regular Russians. Putin is notoriously anti-circumcision. Or, pragmatically, it is just something appealing to hard-line Muslim minorities in Russia.
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Nov 28, 2018 21:56
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BattleMaster posted:Are they capitalizing on people from other countries where that's a thing or is it catching on among ethnic Russians? it's a dagestani thing, not a russian thing. not widespread in the slightest, not even in chechnya. all parties involved are denying ever performing the operation on minors in moscow (not that that means much). https://themoscowtimes.com/news/female-circumcision-in-moscow-clinic-sparks-outrage-63627
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Nov 28, 2018 22:02
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I thought making prisoners video confessions was a war crime, or was that just an idea people threw around when Iranians arrested the british marines? Then again, I think the ukrainians did the same to russian Rincewinds fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Nov 29, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 23:58
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Rincewinds posted:I thought making prisoners video confessions was a war crime, or was that just an idea people threw around when Iranians arrested the british marines? Then again, I think the ukrainians did the same to russian Generally, it isn't. You may not torture or exert presure on prisoners of war to collaborate, but interrogating them should be both legal and is custom among most armed forces. IIRC the depiction of such a confession is slightly more questionable but does not rise to the level of what is legally considered a warcrime. It's probably an offense for the soldier in question to collaborate under whatever internal military law the Ukraine has.
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Nov 29, 2018 00:22
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Looks like russia just got away with another military action against ukraine. Gee what happened last time we ignored an aggressor...
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Nov 29, 2018 00:28
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LeoMarr posted:Looks like russia just got away with another military action against ukraine. Gee what happened last time we ignored an aggressor... That agressor didn't have any nuclear warheads, now piss off with your bad analogies you bloodthirsty shithead disclaimer : No I do not think Putin is cool, no Russia is not in the right attacking a sovereign nation, but armchair chauvinism is super loving obnoxious
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Nov 29, 2018 03:16
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skipThings posted:That agressor didn't have any nuclear warheads, And? You're basically saying it would be fine if America walked up and annexed where ever you lived. After all, we have nuclear weapons too so no one should ever try to stop us.
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Nov 29, 2018 03:34
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skipThings posted:That agressor didn't have any nuclear warheads, now piss off with your bad analogies you bloodthirsty shithead Its not armchair chauvinism you loving jackass. A country just seized 3 soverign vessels and walked away without a blink on the world stage.
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Nov 29, 2018 04:40
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Ukraine shouldn't have given up its nukes no matter what anyone said.
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Nov 29, 2018 05:18
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Baronjutter posted:Ukraine shouldn't have given up its nukes no matter what anyone said. watch out someone might call you a WAR MONGERING BLOOD THIRSTY MONSTER for sharing such an opinion (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 29, 2018 05:52
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fishmech posted:And? You're basically saying it would be fine if America walked up and annexed where ever you lived. After all, we have nuclear weapons too so no one should ever try to stop us. This post is just beautiful in all the right ways.
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Nov 29, 2018 05:54
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LeoMarr posted:Its not armchair chauvinism you loving jackass. A country just seized 3 soverign vessels and walked away without a blink on the world stage. 
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Nov 29, 2018 06:45
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skipThings posted:That agressor didn't have any nuclear warheads, now piss off with your bad analogies you bloodthirsty shithead Indeed it is chauvinism which motivates taking action against imperialism. That makes lots of sense.
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Nov 29, 2018 07:20
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Baronjutter posted:Ukraine shouldn't have given up its nukes no matter what anyone said. IIRC, wasn't most of the necessary (and very expensive and in neeed of extensive renovation) infrastructure for maintaining those back in Russia?
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Nov 29, 2018 07:20
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If you haven't seen it already I strongly recommend watching Putin's official statement about the incident, which he gave tonight. It's basically laying out the official party line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NYgMUoK1oQ Note: Russian territory was not violated. His entire premise is flawed, unless he is now claiming the entire Azov coast for Russia. Also Putin looks a little worse than usual.
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Nov 29, 2018 08:58
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Not the coast just the water. They can keep the land this week.
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So what is the actual legal status of the Kerch straight and international traffic transiting through? I see Russias case is built over the Ukrainian ships being military vessels, and thus exempt from free transfer rights governed by Russia as the straights owner. A risky precedent, considering Russia is dependent on Turkey for Black Sea - Mediterranean transits.
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Nov 29, 2018 11:47
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LeoMarr posted:Its not armchair chauvinism you loving jackass. A country just seized 3 soverign vessels and walked away without a blink on the world stage. then go out and fight for the sovereignity of Ukraine and leave this messageboard behind, until then it's just you being an armchair chauvinist
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Mokotow posted:So what is the actual legal status of the Kerch straight and international traffic transiting through? I see Russias case is built over the Ukrainian ships being military vessels, and thus exempt from free transfer rights governed by Russia as the straights owner. A risky precedent, considering Russia is dependent on Turkey for Black Sea - Mediterranean transits. They ignore that, but they also signed the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea just like Ukraine did, so they would have to let all ships through for navigation (Bosporus would be that without the Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits). Now let's ignore silly UN conventions and the status of holy Crimea, but wait: Russia and Ukraine also have an agreement on cooperation in the use of the Sea of Azov and the Strait of Kerch, according to which both the sea and the strait are inland waters (ie. they're not territorial waters and don't have an exclusive economic zone). According to this agreement both countries can freely use the strait and the Azov sea, except it only counts if Russia is moving warships around inside of it, I guess.
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Nov 29, 2018 13:08
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HorrificExistence posted:If you haven't seen it already I strongly recommend watching Putin's official statement about the incident, which he gave tonight. It's basically laying out the official party line. The entire incident was just a political stunt by an incumbent who is not doing well in the polls. A shame really, but what can you do? RT saying the same thing with a headline ending in a question mark too.
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Nov 29, 2018 14:08
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Randler posted:Generally, it isn't. You may not torture or exert presure on prisoners of war to collaborate, but interrogating them should be both legal and is custom among most armed forces. IIRC the depiction of such a confession is slightly more questionable but does not rise to the level of what is legally considered a warcrime. It's probably an offense for the soldier in question to collaborate under whatever internal military law the Ukraine has. I'm assuming you're using the term warcrime to mean violating international agreements on the treatment of military prisoners? In that case, it is a crime to make a spectacle of captured enemy soldiers.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:The entire incident was just a political stunt by an incumbent who is not doing well in the polls. A shame really, but what can you do?
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Darth Walrus posted:IIRC, wasn't most of the necessary (and very expensive and in neeed of extensive renovation) infrastructure for maintaining those back in Russia?
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