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withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

He's not wrong.

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Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!



Did he really storm off to ragetweet?

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


What else is he going to do?

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Madkal posted:

Didn't it come out last month that the VA dept was being run by 3 of Trump's rich friend cronies (one being Ike Perlmutter, ceo of Marvel comics)?

The owner of the NHL's Florida Panthers was one too I think.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

US life expectancy falls due to more overdoses and suicides. MAGA!

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5bffb53ae4b027f1097aa36d

duodenum
Sep 18, 2005

There Bias Two posted:

Uhhh...I don't think you want to piss off a well-trained and armed segment of the populace by refusing to pay them benefits they may have literally put their life on the line for. Just yikes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

Just roll tanks on them if they complain, it worked last time.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



duodenum posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

Just roll tanks on them if they complain, it worked last time.

Has their been any major conflict that the US has been involved in where they didn't screw over the veterans afterward? I mean, they didn't pay the pensions for veterans of the War of 1812 until 1871 and that was the one I figured would have the best chance of not loving people over.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013




he's definitely right!

https://twitter.com/GStephanopoulos/status/1068143172524609538

not joseph stalin
Dec 30, 2008

Yup.. could make a great ad. "You voted for a minimum wage increase, Michigan. Republicans took it away from you. If you make minimum wage, you've lost (checks math) 24,000$. Raise the minimum wage in 2020, and let them know they can't steal from you ever again." Michigan goes blue in 2020, hard.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Relentless posted:

Did he really storm off to ragetweet?
Well, what else should he be doing while sitting on the can, after leaving the Christmas Tree lighting in that state?

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
at your stupid avatar
so
have a cool cat instead.

:v:
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https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1068160464230731776

https://twitter.com/fordm/status/1068161323190665217

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1068166399737163776

https://twitter.com/EdKrassen/status/1068159683704365057

marshmonkey fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Nov 29, 2018

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Just to sum up, this week Corsi confirmed he actively participated in a conspiracy with Roger Stone and Ted Malloch to coordinate the release of hacked emails that Julian Assange was in possession of, in order to benefit the Trump campaign.

Then we got confirmation secret deals were going on behind the scenes, all the way through when the Trump Tower meeting was happening, that Trump and his family all knew about and repeatedly denied (some, like Don Jr., denied it under oath). Those deals involved direct communication between Trump's personal attorney and Dmitry Peskov, Putin's press secretary, among many others.

Also, Mueller has confirmed he will charge people with lying to Congress even without an explicit referral from the committee that was lied to.

eke out fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Nov 29, 2018

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005


I suspect this is related to the Manafort stuff. Cohen's likely been the one supplying the documentation that proved Manafort was lying.

HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

Deteriorata posted:

I suspect this is related to the Manafort stuff. Cohen's likely been the one supplying the documentation that proved Manafort was lying.

Ah, so Cohen probably has binders full of audio he secretly recorded of interactions regarding all this as well as e-mails and texts, which could make sense that they'd torch Manafort over his lies. Could be a hint to others of the kind of stuff Mueller's got so, "don't even think about trying to lie."

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

I'm actually surprised by this, I figured it would be 20%-30%. That said, I'm sure a lot of these Republicans will either say the climate is changing but we're not doing it, and/or we're powerless to stop it now, so why bother.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1068173771712983045

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Cohen was literally Trump's partner in all his scams, crimes and payoffs of women he had affairs with. So naturally Trump spends years making GBS threads on him and then disowns him after he's elected.

:master:

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

sean10mm posted:

Cohen was literally Trump's partner in all his scams, crimes and payoffs of women he had affairs with. So naturally Trump spends years making GBS threads on him and then disowns him after he's elected.

:master:

Didn't that only start when the feds raided Cohen's office and revealed him to be less a lawyer and more a fixer?

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

So, was yesterday's vote just on cloture?

https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1068174945543495680

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
I feel like I'm out of the loop on this, is there a good rundown on why there's a controversy over this Farr guy?

Rea
Apr 5, 2011

Komi-san won.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

I feel like I'm out of the loop on this, is there a good rundown on why there's a controversy over this Farr guy?

He was one of the people behind gerrymandering in North Carolina.

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



Rigel posted:

I'm actually surprised by this, I figured it would be 20%-30%. That said, I'm sure a lot of these Republicans will either say the climate is changing but we're not doing it, and/or we're powerless to stop it now, so why bother.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1068173771712983045

They believe it's changing but don't think it's anthropogenic, is the rub. You can't help an addict that doesn't believe the bad things in their life are their fault.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Acebuckeye13 posted:

I feel like I'm out of the loop on this, is there a good rundown on why there's a controversy over this Farr guy?

He defended one of the most brazen, illegal racial gerrymanders in recent history on behalf of the NC GOP. I suppose an argument could be made that he was just representing a client and wasn't expressing his own personal opinion, but he chose to defend this case, and it was so egregious that it ought to be disqualifying for him to serve as a federal judge.

If the GOP somehow fails to confirm him this year, then they'll just wait to next year when Flake is gone and they have 2 more votes in the Senate.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Rigel posted:

So, was yesterday's vote just on cloture?

Total side note but I just want to point out that if you had said the word cloture to me before 2016 I'd have no loving clue what you meant. Living in interesting times, indeed.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Munkeymon posted:

They believe it's changing but don't think it's anthropogenic, is the rub. You can't help an addict that doesn't believe the bad things in their life are their fault.

There are also the ones who will agree it's anthropogenic, but have decided it just won't be as bad as everyone says. To be fair, the way the media hypes weather events probably has a lot to do with creating this mindset.

captainblastum
Dec 1, 2004

not joseph stalin posted:

Yup.. could make a great ad. "You voted for a minimum wage increase, Michigan. Republicans took it away from you. If you make minimum wage, you've lost (checks math) 24,000$. Raise the minimum wage in 2020, and let them know they can't steal from you ever again." Michigan goes blue in 2020, hard.

It should definitely be front and center in campaigns in 2020, but I doubt that Michigan's house and senate will switch to the dems until after the redistricting. The gerrymandering here is nuts, but we passed a proposal for an independent (eh, sorta, but I'll take it) redistricting commission. It was a constitutional amendment, so it can't overridden in the same way.

There's a nice example of a district here: http://www.michiganradio.org/post/5-things-know-about-ballot-proposal-end-gerrymandering-michigan

2022 might see some serious changes come to Michigan.

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
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have a cool cat instead.

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https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1068181852001890304

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

jaw meet floor

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

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have a cool cat instead.

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Thread: https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1068163525560791040

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1068181697387249671

marshmonkey fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Nov 29, 2018

eke out
Feb 24, 2013




i'm not familiar with chicago politics but a quick google sure makes it seem like this guy is corrupt to the point the feds could be there for a whole lot of different reasons

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Yowza. Cohen raid 2.0?

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

bird food bathtub posted:

Yowza. Cohen raid 2.0?
Could be, or could be completely unrelated public corruption. It doesn't seem like Burke would be involved with anything related to the SCO.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Tibalt posted:

Could be, or could be completely unrelated public corruption. It doesn't seem like Burke would be involved with anything related to the SCO.

Well considering that Trumps business ties to Russia are about to become very important, I'm not so sure

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1068171013681229824

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009

Rigel posted:

I'm actually surprised by this, I figured it would be 20%-30%. That said, I'm sure a lot of these Republicans will either say the climate is changing but we're not doing it, and/or we're powerless to stop it now, so why bother.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1068173771712983045

Or, like certain people I know, will say we are not doing it and therefore it isn't our responsibility to fix it. Ie, the "it's China's fault" people. On a smaller scale I have personally known the sort of person who will unhappily live in a mess of another persons doing indefinitely, complaining all the while, but unwilling to fix it because it wasn't their fault, they shouldn't have to.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



The Glumslinger posted:

Well considering that Trumps business ties to Russia are about to become very important, I'm not so sure

public corruption seems way more likely, all i see is that resistance twitter has seized on this because of a tangential connection - even though they're raiding his office at city hall.

if you want to talk interesting raids connected to russia, this story seems much more significant:

https://twitter.com/tictoc/status/1068074330670727168

Yiggy
Sep 12, 2004

"Imagination is not enough. You have to have knowledge too, and an experience of the oddity of life."

haveblue posted:

Didn't that only start when the feds raided Cohen's office and revealed him to be less a lawyer and more a fixer?

I don’t believe so. There were a lot of press articles as the raids were starting they detailed how in private and speaking to others that Trump poo poo on Cohen constantly. Trump would even be a dick to Cohen in front of others to show dominance in a typically narcissistic fashion. That Cohen was such a lickspittle for so long despite years of this is probably why they expected him to stay loyal. Which is an utterly dumb calculation but also fairly typical of a narcissist.

That plus all the public distancing when the heat started with not a scintilla of loyalty or affirmation in the press plus sending him along hat in hand when he showed up worried about his legal fees. They only kept him around as a fall guy because they thought they could control the aftermath.

Yiggy fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Nov 29, 2018

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
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have a cool cat instead.

:v:
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1068193999788359682

eke out
Feb 24, 2013




"I needed someone to do crimes! Everyone knows that. Next question."

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

The Deutsche Bank raid seems to be unrelated to Trump, and is part of the Panama Papers investigation. (Rich people around the world setting up illegal tax shelters)

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marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

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https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1068194229443272704

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