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corn in the bible posted:I genuinely wouldn't be particularly surprised if SCOTUS up and rules that the President is inherently allowed to do everything Trump has done. Maybe stick something in about how this doesn't set precedent, like they did with Bush Jr. becoming president, just in case there's a Democrat up for trial someday Most likely they'll rule that it's not their place to enforce those standards as some sort of twisted separation of powers thing given that the constitutional remedy for a runaway executive is Impeachment. Which is honestly probably the right call. The problem is that our political system is a broken partisan mess with a minority party that has gerrymandered themselves into sufficient power to block any attempt to apply that constitutional remedy and a public that has been lied to to the point that close to half the public actually supports this criminal behavior. I have no hope left for any sort of spontaneous uprising by the people so pretty much our only hope is that the good or at least not worst Dems in the house manage to maintain sufficient control to block the worst urges of the Republicans while we work to build up a national movement to purge those evil fuckers from any position of power in 2020. So which of you Dems are a waste purists have a clean enough closet to actually run for office?
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Lote posted:Avenatti did troll Michael Cohen into the whole Mueller fiasco so he’s pretty competent on that end. The defamation lawsuit that got SLAPP’d though was bad. yeah, avenatti was a useful monster, but he has outgrown his usefulness. now he can gently caress off into oblivion.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/1068187117115719680 With all the legal wrangling surrounding Whitaker in mind, I first read this as saying that his job title was "Presumably Acting AG".
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eke out posted:as a friendly pedantic correction, domestic emoluments are also barred by the Constitution and the subject of multiple major lawsuits right now - while operating a business domestically isn't illegal in itself, profiting from it because of your status as president is. (and, as we're seeing with his hotel in DC, it's very hard to extricate normal business from people who want to stay at your place to curry favor with you - the court is about to set a discovery schedule in this case, so we'll hear much more on this topic in 2019) It probably depends on the business. If you, say own coca-cola (and it was a private company), you could probably credibly argue that your status as president is not significantly impacting coke's profits, and to the extent someone could prove your profit was X+Y instead of X, then you could donate Y to charity or something. A hotel in DC or New York is very problematic because important people lobbying you for something will obviously stay in your hotel, and tell you they stayed in your hotel to try to gain favor. If you owned a hotel in Lincoln, NE though, then eh, who cares.
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Rigel posted:It probably depends on the business. If you, say own coca-cola (and it was a private company), you could probably credibly argue that your status as president is not significantly impacting coke's profits, and to the extent someone could prove your profit was X+Y instead of X, then you could donate Y to charity or something. https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/824314914105917444?s=20
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Rigel posted:Flake reportedly doesn't think he can support Farr even if his Mueller issue is resolved. Collins, Scott, and Murkowski are all undecided. They were willing to vote for cloture, but they don't know if they'll vote to confirm him. If he fails to pass, will Trump reappoint him once more chuds are sworn in the Senate?
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corn in the bible posted:I genuinely wouldn't be particularly surprised if SCOTUS up and rules that the President is inherently allowed to do everything Trump has done. Maybe stick something in about how this doesn't set precedent, like they did with Bush Jr. becoming president, just in case there's a Democrat up for trial someday If you are talking about the whole emoluments thing, there is no defined punishment. The constitution just says "please don't do this", but there is nothing in the law or the constitution spelling out what happens if you do it anyway. We relied on hundreds of years of presidents reading the constitution and going "gee, I guess I can't do that. OK then." MAYBE we can take his hotels to put an end to the emoluments, but even then we'd have to sell them or figure out a fair market value and pay Trump off.
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Groovelord Neato posted:https://twitter.com/The_Law_Boy/status/1067898072603258883 Do you think he charges for Twitter time
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Ague Proof posted:If he fails to pass, will Trump reappoint him once more chuds are sworn in the Senate? I don't think the turtle will allow a failed vote. If he finds out that he doesn't have 50+1, then he'll just reschedule the vote for February or something, so a reappointment won't be needed.
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arbybaconator posted:This thread used to move a page a minute about a year ago. With today's bombshell news I expected it to be moving much faster. Today's news doesn't really change the equation much.
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"You're obviously not a skin man." The Donald later reiterated the point, pounding the table and saying, "which is okay... I wish I wasn't." Some Putin fanboy must have been so hurt by this photo which makes him look weak that they had to photoshop in the tie-holding: https://twitter.com/NanaB2U2/status/1068135827413319682 Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Nov 29, 2018 |
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:aaaaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahahah, i needed that, thanks 2019: "In a five four ruling written by Chief justice Roberts... the court finds that the money must also be exchanged in a big sack with a dollar sign on the side" 2020: "... the dollar sign must be green" 2021: "... the dollar sign must have been hand painted on" 2022: "... the dollar sign must have two vertical bars"
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Crow Jane posted:I have to give ol'Jon some credit, he doesn't try to make Trump look unhideous yeah but i still don't get how anyone can see trump as this inteliigent "alpha" male badass who cares about people and christ. i know its stupidity and toxic masculinty/bigotry/etc but christ.
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Rigel posted:If you are talking about the whole emoluments thing, there is no defined punishment. The constitution just says "please don't do this", but there is nothing in the law or the constitution spelling out what happens if you do it anyway. We relied on hundreds of years of presidents reading the constitution and going "gee, I guess I can't do that. OK then." MAYBE we can take his hotels to put an end to the emoluments, but even then we'd have to sell them or figure out a fair market value and pay Trump off. competitors to eg Trump Hotel DC are alleging harm to their interests, so the obvious outcome there is "make the trump organization pay money"
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Not shown in painting: the stilts Trump has to be standing on to make that framing work.
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Sundae posted:Not shown in painting: the stilts Trump has to be standing on to make that framing work. Y'know, I'd probably be willing to bet he wears lifts in his shoes
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah but i still don't get how anyone can see trump as this inteliigent "alpha" male badass who cares about people and christ. i know its stupidity and toxic masculinty/bigotry/etc but christ. Team politics is a hell of a drug.
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Rigel posted:If you are talking about the whole emoluments thing, there is no defined punishment. The constitution just says "please don't do this", but there is nothing in the law or the constitution spelling out what happens if you do it anyway. We relied on hundreds of years of presidents reading the constitution and going "gee, I guess I can't do that. OK then." MAYBE we can take his hotels to put an end to the emoluments, but even then we'd have to sell them or figure out a fair market value and pay Trump off. They did something that’s illegal and it caused financial harm to other businesses. Keep launching civil cases until Trump and his companies are broke.
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arbybaconator posted:This thread used to move a page a minute about a year ago. With today's bombshell news I expected it to be moving much faster. Sometimes we all just sorta go "welp"
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Groovelord Neato posted:did we already have a chuckle over another mccain meltdown?
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Yeah, because an ex-Marine is totally going to allow someone to hold him by the tie like that, lol.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Team politics is a hell of a drug. yeah but a decent amount of my GOP aligned relatives hate him. they are more the small business types(aka millenials are lazy) or super Catholics mixed with FYGM. but even they see through trumps bullshit.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:They did something that’s illegal and it caused financial harm to other businesses. Keep launching civil cases until Trump and his companies are broke. Did you make this post from an alternate reality where the law actually applies to rich people?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Sometimes we all just sorta go "welp" Just add these crimes to the crimes pile.
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Groovelord Neato posted:did we already have a chuckle over another mccain meltdown? When your only remaining meal ticket is being Whoopi’s punching bag.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Sometimes we all just sorta go "welp" Outrage fatigue
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Did you make this post from an alternate reality where the law actually applies to rich people? I presume there are other rich people who either hate trump or want his money.
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arbybaconator posted:This thread used to move a page a minute about a year ago. With today's bombshell news I expected it to be moving much faster. "Michael Cohen put in a guilty plea and is cooperating with the Mueller investigation!" - News that was more exciting the first time.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:When your only remaining meal ticket is being Whoopi’s punching bag. Buddy she is rich as hell. She has no financial need whatsoever to do this.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Given today’s news this has already aged so well not shown: 3 seconds later, Trump flinches in extreme agony, as mueller's pinch grip crushes every bone in trump's elbow
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Did you make this post from an alternate reality where the law actually applies to rich people? That's this reality, where the law only exists to protect rich people. See also Madoff, Bernard going to jail vs nobody at Citibank getting so much as a slap on the wrist for illegally stealing people's homes.
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