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Team Fortress Classic was better than both TF2 and Overwatch
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Nov 29, 2018 18:43
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The Saints Row series are better games than GTA because they understand that the fun in GTA is causing mayhem and being an rear end in a top hat, not shoehorning you into terrible scripted missions non-stop. See also: Just Cause, where you literally advance the plot by blowing poo poo up in inventive ways, like tethering your car to an enemy helicopter, driving it off a cliff, and parachuting to safety while the weight of the car drags the helicopter into the side of said cliff
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Nov 29, 2018 18:43
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The scripted missions in gta are just car chases and shooting galleries, the gently caress is wrong with that?
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Nov 29, 2018 18:47
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The very often have annoying restrictions like set paths or weapons, and if you deviate from them in any way you lose. Give me more "rob this bank here, and get to this safehouse without going above 3 stars. How you do it is up to you." I think my ideal game would roughly be Grand Theft Dragon's Dogma
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Nov 29, 2018 18:52
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Saw this game mentioned in the other thread and it reminded me Chrono Trigger is god awful anyone who pretends its some kind of masterpiece has the biggest rose colored glasses.
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Nov 29, 2018 18:56
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The very often have annoying restrictions like set paths or weapons, and if you deviate from them in any way you lose. Give me more "rob this bank here, and get to this safehouse without going above 3 stars. How you do it is up to you." Metal Gear Auto
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Nov 29, 2018 18:57
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Hako posted:Saw this game mentioned in the other thread and it reminded me Chrono Trigger is god awful anyone who pretends its some kind of masterpiece has the biggest rose colored glasses. "Rose colored glasses" is kinda the point though. It absolutely was a masterpiece when it first came out. The fact that game development has progressed to a point where it sucks by today's standards doesn't retroactively make it bad. It's like how Miami Vice is a super corny show to watch now but it was revolutionary television in the 80s.
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Nov 29, 2018 19:26
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is pepsi ok posted:"Rose colored glasses" is kinda the point though. It absolutely was a masterpiece when it first came out. The fact that game development has progressed to a point where it sucks by today's standards doesn't retroactively make it bad. It's like how Miami Vice is a super corny show to watch now but it was revolutionary television in the 80s. i'd still rather play chrono trigger than 99% of the garbage released for phones today. CT is superior to about 85% of modern AAA games too, just for lack of aggressive monitization and online activation.
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Nov 29, 2018 19:32
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:LCs were great fun when everyone was chilling, they became less fun when goons obsessed with winning began treating it like a pro CS GO alternative Here lies Atlantis, killed by bad map rotation. Pepperoni and cheese Credit where credit is due the Halloween event this year was pretty cool, and there were a ton of Halloween accessories you could get easily via the contract system they added.
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Nov 29, 2018 19:34
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Chrono Trigger is good but Terranigma is the best game on the snes.
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Nov 29, 2018 19:48
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Thursday Next posted:Breath of the Wild was boring and empty I was with you up until "ESO is very good" Small correction; it is awful trash. A truly awful MMO. The core of it is rotten because the gameplay itself feels like poo poo
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Nov 29, 2018 19:50
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LOTRO was the best mmo before it became freemium anyway. It had interesting mechanics and a well made world.
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Nov 29, 2018 20:11
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Sardonik posted:Here lies Atlantis, killed by bad map rotation. Pepperoni and cheese Didn’t you use to play demoman? If you’re the guy I’m thinking of, you were amazing  Good times, still miss that game, shame Valve decided to go make an operating system instead
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Nov 29, 2018 20:18
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Shibawanko posted:Chrono Trigger is good but Terranigma is the best game on the snes. Robotrek is a really fun game that nobody seems to have played
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Nov 29, 2018 20:26
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G4 TV pre tech TV merger was good and Portal was funny.
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Nov 29, 2018 20:30
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Mordor She Wrote posted:G4 TV pre tech TV merger was good and Portal was funny. TechTV featuring Serial Perv Leo LaPorte was also good
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Nov 29, 2018 20:31
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G4 was crap. G4-Tech TV however was great. It was a fantastic channel (for its time) during the transition, but once the transition was completed it didn't take long to turn to poo poo.
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Nov 29, 2018 20:36
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Twisted Metal PS3 was a fantastic game that people refused to give a shot for really dumb reasons, and vehicle combat genre needs a come back. It was a great TM2 homage in terms of physics, etc, but the heart and soul of a TM game (co-op story) just wasn't very well designed. The bosses were really bad and the player stories were pretty much missing altogether. That being said, I wish it had been more successful because I miss that genre.
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Nov 29, 2018 20:50
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Robotrek is a really fun game that nobody seems to have played Nintendo Power made that game look so cool but I was never able to find it anywhere.
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Nov 29, 2018 20:52
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Shibawanko posted:Chrono Trigger is good but Terranigma is the best game on the snes. no game with a forced out-of-genre stealth section can be the best anything Snow Cone Capone posted:Robotrek is a really fun game that nobody seems to have played robotrek was cool but the endgame was a huge slog
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Nov 29, 2018 21:01
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Didn’t you use to play demoman? If you’re the guy I’m thinking of, you were amazing Yep that was me, thank you! Met a friend recently that got me back into it. Hopefully Artifact fails hilariously and Valve can go back to making core games. Mordor She Wrote posted:G4 TV pre tech TV merger was good and Portal was funny. Portal was weird as all hell. It had a real machinima vibe to it.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:07
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:It was a great TM2 homage in terms of physics, etc, but the heart and soul of a TM game (co-op story) just wasn't very well designed. I think it would have been better off if it was sold half price as multiplayer only, not that I didn't enjoy Sweet Tooth, Mr Grim's and Dollfaces' stories but like the heart of the game was the online. Sardonik posted:
Portal felt like a lovely MST3K meets MMORPG RPing, and partial fever dream, all those old G4 shows were charming in their shittiness.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:17
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The White Dragon posted:no game with a forced out-of-genre stealth section can be the best anything Dragoon castle wasn't the high point of the game or anything but it was okay and I really liked how much attention to detail went into each city. Yunkou really felt like a city in China, there are villages in the Gobi desert that look just like Louran, and they took the time to make spritework just for that one Buddhist temple in Lhasa where you can save your game. Terranigma rules because besides the pointy haired teenager protagonist it basically bucks every RPG cliche and is just a cool romp through real world locations with a weird original story.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:33
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The very often have annoying restrictions like set paths or weapons, and if you deviate from them in any way you lose. Give me more "rob this bank here, and get to this safehouse without going above 3 stars. How you do it is up to you." Saint's Row is pretty bad at the missions being totally linear frequently though. For all the goofy poo poo and crazy plot the game doesn't give you a lot to do with it.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:50
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Sardonik posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36lSzUMBJnc Oh man I had never thought about this but the medic's heal gun also heals clothing I wonder if it can like put back together broken mugs and poo poo
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Nov 29, 2018 22:08
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saints row got lovely after the second one, volition would be better off making a new red faction game
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Nov 29, 2018 22:08
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The White Dragon posted:no game with a forced out-of-genre stealth section can be the best anything If you got lucky and had the punch lady with you when they spring that section it isnt forced. Still way overrated. I played it for the first time recently and the bosses are all giant hp sacks that are complete non threats. Especially late game the fights just dragged on and on with 0 tension.
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Nov 29, 2018 22:10
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a bone to pick posted:saints row got lovely after the second one, volition would be better off making a new red faction game nah the third one was very good sorry that you hate fun
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Nov 29, 2018 22:15
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QuarkJets posted:nah the third one was very good sorry that you hate fun you're wrong and the city was boring / ugly
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Nov 29, 2018 22:17
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Saints Row might make a better visual novel because most of what is good about it is actually dialogue Though certain sequences are fantastic
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Nov 29, 2018 22:26
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Undertale has some bits that are drawn out and not funny at all Red Faction Armageddon was a pretty good game and its major crime was that it wasn't more Red Faction Guerilla Hitman Absolution did quite a few things to modernize the Hitman franchise in terms of fluidity and controls.
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Nov 29, 2018 22:26
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A friendly reminder that Just Cause 4 is out in 5 days and it is the #1 "wander around and blow everything up" simulator series
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Nov 29, 2018 22:40
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blackguy32 posted:Undertale has some bits that are drawn out and not funny at all Armageddon was a solid game with the Red Faction name slapped onto it because it takes place on Mars
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Nov 29, 2018 22:41
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I felt like it was really shallow though. I liked it but it was no first game. Red Faction!
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Anyone who says "Hearts of Iron IV = worst game in the franchise" is a grognard who hates fun. Sure, it's been vastly simplified from the previous games, but that only makes it more fun and not everyone has the time to stare at NATO-style counters for hours at end.
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Nov 30, 2018 00:09
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Red Faction is a weird series with two good and two bad entries and both bad entries are immediate sequels looking at the preceeding good entry and going "lets make this all about the shooting and the color brown" Im not including the cell phone (non smartphone) or n-gage versions in here because I nor anyone else ever played them.
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Nov 30, 2018 00:22
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TheScott2K posted:I truly do not understand people whose biggest problem with GTA 4 was car physics. That poo poo ruled. Because they hold the accelerator down the whole time and never touch the brake except to reverse because they rammed into a wall again
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Nov 30, 2018 00:34
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Away all Goats posted:Because they hold the accelerator down the whole time and never touch the brake except to reverse because they rammed into a wall again But that's how driving works
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Barudak posted:Red Faction is a weird series with two good and two bad entries and both bad entries are immediate sequels looking at the preceeding good entry and going "lets make this all about the shooting and the color brown" I played the n-gage one
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