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DIO literally becomes a demon, taking in broken, lost, scared, and evil people by telling that all will be fine, all fear will vanish from your heart, if you just listen to him and do as he says Just like capitalism
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the ambitious but selfish working class in their aspirations to rise above their station will misuse powers they cannot responsibly control from the noble social elite and will end up creating a dog with a person head Jojo is unwoke
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speaking of Phantom Blood's super hard left turn I wonder what it was like for jump readers when it first started like for the first few weekly chapters its about these two victorian rivals and then all of a sudden there are vampires and a guy in a tophat who is a lightning ninja
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Expect My Mom posted:DIO literally becomes a demon, taking in broken, lost, scared, and evil people by telling that all will be fine, all fear will vanish from your heart, if you just listen to him and do as he says That sounds kind of like a cult.
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Nov 29, 2018 20:20
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Mel Mudkiper posted:speaking of Phantom Blood's super hard left turn I wonder what it was like for jump readers when it first started they were probably like "wow this whips rear end"
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Mel Mudkiper posted:speaking of Phantom Blood's super hard left turn I wonder what it was like for jump readers when it first started I always wondered that too. It would be neat if someone dug up old Japanese Usenet posts to find out, assuming there even was a Japanese Usenet community discussing shonen manga back then.
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Nov 29, 2018 20:21
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Hey since I have a knack for opening wounds in this thread, let's talk about the time they made the nazis good guys
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Nov 29, 2018 20:40
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Caesar was a fascist with Nazi allies and his death was deserved
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When I was getting a friend into jojo I warned him about the good guy nazi He came to me later on like "it wasnt that bad, he just sacrificed himself with a grenade" And I replied "its cute that you dont think he is gonna come back as a robot" and my friend just kind of stared at me trying to figure out if I was joking
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I do appreciate that Stroheim outright murders innocent people in his introduction, foreclosing “clean Wehrmacht”-style defenses of him...but a lot of fans forget about that, and I suspect Araki may have forgotten about it too.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:01
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Hey now we've clearly established araki would never forget about an important plot point
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Nov 29, 2018 21:03
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Stroheim was more useful to Joseph's adventure than Caesar was.
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There is also an amusing irony involving the Nazis in Battle Tendency, which unfortunately revolves around a bit of narration that's omitted from the anime. The narrator talks about how the Nazis believed that Germans were "more evolved" than other humans and therefore had the right to crush everybody else. In other words, according to Stroheim's own theoretical beliefs, Kars is completely in the right.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:08
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The OP for Battle Tendency is always amusing to me because it in no way represents the actual story of the arc
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Silver2195 posted:There is also an amusing irony involving the Nazis in Battle Tendency, which unfortunately revolves around a bit of narration that's omitted from the anime. The narrator talks about how the Nazis believed that Germans were "more evolved" than other humans and therefore had the right to crush everybody else. In other words, according to Stroheim's own theoretical beliefs, Kars is completely in the right. This and Robo-Stroheim dies in Stalingrad anyway, so 
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Expect My Mom posted:Like the period drama is so JoJo dude. ...and the a century later, the first brother's great-grandson burns down a house attempting to scan the owner out of money and the other's son drinks a cup of piss to get in with the mafia to eventually take over and eradicate the drug trade in Italy.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:42
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No it was jellyfish
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do you think Araki came up with the jellyfish tooth to absorb a toxic liquid first or serving someone piss tea first
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David D. Davidson posted:...and the a century later, the first brother's great-grandson burns down a house attempting to scan the owner out of money and the other's son drinks a cup of piss to get in with the mafia to eventually take over and eradicate the drug trade in Italy. Technically, Giorno was both their sons.
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To be fair the Nazis in Battle Tendency weren't ever the good guys. At best they were an "enemy of my enemy" type ally. Stroheim did get off pretty clean for starting off as a pretty scummy dude though.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:56
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I find that distinction to be irrelevant when the unironic phrase "Hurray, the SS is here!" is uttered
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Nov 29, 2018 21:59
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I don’t think anyone actually said that
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I don't remember any indication that Stroheim was a good man or anything. He helps Joseph because Cars would've been a threat to Nazi Germany.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1068213084702027778
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what the gently caress
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Nov 29, 2018 22:19
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So McAfee is running for president again right
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Nov 29, 2018 22:22
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I've read this six times and I have gained absolutely zero information
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John McAfee and Joseph Joestar have both killed people, this checks out
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Meat Beat Agent posted:John McAfee and Joseph Joestar have both killed people, this checks out I can also easily imagine McAfee losing a hand inside a volcano. About 50/50 if he loses it to the volcano or to some fitness buff in a thong who also happens to be there.
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Also both friends to nazis
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Funky Valentine posted:Stroheim was more useful to Joseph's adventure than Caesar was. Yeah, Caesar doesn't really do anything aside from introduce him to Lisa Lisa and die.
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Nov 29, 2018 22:48
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Joseph didn't even use the antidote he died getting
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Mel Mudkiper posted:the ambitious but selfish working class in their aspirations to rise above their station will misuse powers they cannot responsibly control from the noble social elite and will end up creating a dog with a person head Mel Mudkiper posted:speaking of Phantom Blood's super hard left turn I wonder what it was like for jump readers when it first started Mel Mudkiper posted:Hey since I have a knack for opening wounds in this thread, let's talk about the time they made the nazis good guys Mel Mudkiper posted:Hey now we've clearly established araki would never forget about an important plot point Mel Mudkiper posted:The OP for Battle Tendency is always amusing to me because it in no way represents the actual story of the arc Mel Mudkiper posted:do you think Araki came up with the jellyfish tooth to absorb a toxic liquid first or serving someone piss tea first Mel Mudkiper posted:I find that distinction to be irrelevant when the unironic phrase "Hurray, the SS is here!" is uttered I feel like at this point you're just purposefully trying to stir up poo poo or something man Also phantom blood opens up with a blood sacrifice using the mask so it was always clear it was going to be supernatural and was never something out of left field
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"Run away to Bolivia" also seems to be something Joseph would do if faced with murder charges.
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FirstAidKite posted:I feel like at this point you're just purposefully trying to stir up poo poo or something man I am genuinely not sure what you find controversial about half of those quotes
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I am genuinely not sure what you find controversial about half of those quotes I just think you're trying too hard, you've gotta be more subtle, you can't just try to jump straight to supermechagodzilla levels without any kind of nuance to it
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FirstAidKite posted:Also phantom blood opens up with a blood sacrifice using the mask so it was always clear it was going to be supernatural and was never something out of left field True in the manga but not the anime, IIRC.
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Silver2195 posted:True in the manga but not the anime, IIRC. Yeah I should've clarified I was talking about the manga there. My bad.
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FirstAidKite posted:Yeah I should've clarified I was talking about the manga there. My bad. we're in the anime thread, kite
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