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Coxswain Balls posted:https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-privatization-forest-fire-service-1.4925541 How the hell could forest firefighting ever turn a profit
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Yeah that’s the part that’s so ridiculous to me. The only “client” they’d have would be the province... meaning that it’s still taxpayer funded but now it’ll cost more because the service has to turn a profit rather than just cover its costs.
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sitchensis posted:How the hell could forest firefighting ever turn a profit Sir I'll have you know that this isn't about turning a profit but rather getting the best possible service for the least amount of money. That's how capitalism and the free market are supposed to work, right?
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The Metis trying to carve out a land claim/homeland for themselves is fairly troubling. Especially when it's encroaching on the land of actual FN people with their historic roots and people intact. Like the Metis are premised around being a group of people who've accepted mixing with French Canadians historically, why are they claiming homeland over traditional territories of first nations that haven't been apart of that culture? I get that the Metis are a melting pot of people and groups in some ways, but that doesn't mean they should take precedence over other groups that existed and continue to exist.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:44
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sitchensis posted:How the hell could forest firefighting ever turn a profit No you see now we can pay this company 100 million a year to run the water bombers we own instead of operating a government department at who knows what cost!(much less than that)
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Nov 29, 2018 21:46
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This is somehow even better. Just lie about everything to everyone all the time. No one knows what the truth is because in fact there is no truth.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:50
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infernal machines posted:Just lie about everything to everyone all the time. No one knows what the truth is because in fact there is no truth.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:54
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Toalpaz posted:The Metis trying to carve out a land claim/homeland for themselves is fairly troubling. Especially when it's encroaching on the land of actual FN people with their historic roots and people intact. Like the Metis are premised around being a group of people who've accepted mixing with French Canadians historically, why are they claiming homeland over traditional territories of first nations that haven't been apart of that culture? I get that the Metis are a melting pot of people and groups in some ways, but that doesn't mean they should take precedence over other groups that existed and continue to exist. That being said my main complaint is that First Nations and other Indigenous people in Canada need to work together synergistically to advance their issues and be an advocate to end colonial and unjust practices (better living conditions/infrastructure, stopping systemic racism). This is just going to be another wedge issue that puts indigenous people against each other, and make other bands and the Metis more defensive and self interested, I feel.
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(Whether or not she quit or was pushed out is kinda immaterial, the writing was on the wall yesterday when the PCs initially denied her unanimous consent to speak on the NDP's motion, and then later also denied her unanimous consent to have her vote on the motion recorded because she missed the right moment to vote.)EvidenceBasedQuack posted:Vous comprenez pas. Ford avait l'air tellement sincère quand il a promis d'apprendre le français. Oh tbc I wasn't offering myself up as a character witness, we were I think a year apart and not anything resembling close. infernal machines posted:Taking a principled stand and resigning from the caucus is good, and it speaks to her commitment to her constituents.
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infernal machines posted:This is somehow even better. Just lie about everything to everyone all the time. No one knows what the truth is because in fact there is no truth. *Staffers continue applause to drown out questions*
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Nov 29, 2018 21:58
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Pinterest Mom posted:(Whether or not she quit or was pushed out is kinda immaterial, the writing was on the wall yesterday when the PCs initially denied her unanimous consent to speak on the NDP's motion, and then later also denied her unanimous consent to have her vote on the motion recorded because she missed the right moment to vote.) lol? She's surely been an MPP long enough to do a few votes by now. Was she waiting for the rest of the people around her to stand up?
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sitchensis posted:How the hell could forest firefighting ever turn a profit You sit down with your old school chum or former and/or future work colleague or brother/sister in law who happens to oversee who gets that government contract and you perform the art of the deal. So pretty much the same way you turn a profit in any industry in this country.
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Toalpaz posted:The Metis trying to carve out a land claim/homeland for themselves is fairly troubling. Especially when it's encroaching on the land of actual FN people with their historic roots and people intact. Like the Metis are premised around being a group of people who've accepted mixing with French Canadians historically, why are they claiming homeland over traditional territories of first nations that haven't been apart of that culture? I get that the Metis are a melting pot of people and groups in some ways, but that doesn't mean they should take precedence over other groups that existed and continue to exist. The Metis Nation is not just people of mixed heritage. It is a distinct group of people that are connected by a shared culture, kinship, and political history, and centered around a geographic area. Sure the word metis means mixed, but someone being mixed heritage does not make them Metis. The Metis Nation fought against the Canadians to have their rights recognized, and as a result signed an agreement with the government (which was then promptly ignored by Ottawa, in true Canadian fashion). Of course the Metis Nation should do everything they can to work with other indigenous groups to ensure that they are not unfairly or unjustly competing for resources, land claims etc.
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Nov 29, 2018 23:37
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Stan Rogers would have turned 69 today.
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sitchensis posted:How the hell could forest firefighting ever turn a profit You work on a 100% profit margin and bill work plus to the government duh
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Nov 30, 2018 02:04
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Privatized firefighting? I guess I was a little pessimistic about that hazard pay for post disaster cleanup jobs. It's happening already.
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Toalpaz posted:The Metis trying to carve out a land claim/homeland for themselves is fairly troubling. Especially when it's encroaching on the land of actual FN people with their historic roots and people intact. Like the Metis are premised around being a group of people who've accepted mixing with French Canadians historically, why are they claiming homeland over traditional territories of first nations that haven't been apart of that culture? I get that the Metis are a melting pot of people and groups in some ways, but that doesn't mean they should take precedence over other groups that existed and continue to exist. Umm pretty sure the Metis are "actual" first nations people. This isnt some people LARPing
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Métis and First Nations are two separate groups. Both could be called aboriginal and it’d be accurate.
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zapplez posted:Umm pretty sure the Metis are "actual" first nations people. This isnt some people LARPing Lol, if we're talking about accurate use of the word 'First Nations' then that categorically excludes Metis. What you're thinking of is 'indigenous' or 'aboriginal', those words include both First Nations and Metis. My intent when I wrote 'Actual' was to stress that there are actual people in those lands with treaties that have been implemented unfairly by Canada, and who also with a legal history of ownership to the land and are not Metis.To have Metis paint over a huge swath of land as their homeland has weird and bad connotations imo. But upon looking at the Natural Geographic apparently this has been referred to the Metis home land before. I just hope they don't end up competing in public consciousness. E: Yeah.
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Métis Scrip was handled by the Canadian government in exactly the way you would expect. There are historical grievances there for sure.
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Nov 30, 2018 03:54
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I thought my neck of the woods was quiet but now the cops here are shooting each other https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/news-story/9058620-police-officer-shoots-fellow-nrp-cop-during-argument/ Even weirder, the one who got shot was the one with a history of suspensions for violent behaviour
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Helsing posted:But shitheads like you who appropriate the language of identity politics poison the well by twisting it into a defense of someone who supported Doug Ford. radical centerists have done an excellent job of weaponizing intersectional theory. 'bernie bros' etc. same way they've been hollowing out marxist terminology over the decades... labour becoming 'human capital', a tool to be deployed as opposed to actual people who create. there should be a book out soonish by phil mirowski that goes into detail on the latter, but the former is a bit outside his wheelhouse, so I dunno if he's gonna touch on it.
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https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/11/29/police-officer-seriously-injured-in-shooting-near-niagara-siu-says.html who does the police union back up in this kind of case? aw, beaten
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Nov 30, 2018 05:03
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I will never forgive the Metis for swap.avi.
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McGavin posted:I will never forgive the Metis for swap.avi. 
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Tochiazuma posted:I thought my neck of the woods was quiet but now the cops here are shooting each other My brain is about to explode. If all cops are bastards then what is a cop that shoots another cop? Does it cancel out or is he a double-bastard?
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Tochiazuma posted:I thought my neck of the woods was quiet but now the cops here are shooting each other The abusive arsehole got nailed five times and is only in critical condition. Methinks someone needs more range time. Not sure if I agree with the death penalty for beating up cyclists and pepper spraying restrained, confined individuals but my sympathy gland is definitely not functioning this morning.
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Coxswain Balls posted:https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-privatization-forest-fire-service-1.4925541 Let's make forest fires profitable to business. What could go wrong?
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InfiniteZero posted:Let's make forest fires profitable to business. What could go wrong? Look, no one wants forest fires, but if they're gonna happen, we may as well make a little money off them, no?
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So the supreme court ruled against VICE, the RCMP is allowed to have their reporter's documents relating to an interview with a now dead alleged ISIS member. https://news.vice.com/en_ca/article/qvqzvv/supreme-court-rules-against-vice-in-press-freedom-battle-against-the-rcmp
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Triple threat Continuing the longstanding tradition of making only the most corrupt Toronto police head of the OPP: https://twitter.com/CBCQueensPark/status/1068273982585982976 This is the guy Bill loving Blair circumvented when investigating Rob Ford because he was considered compromised. But yeah, a close friend of the Premier just got appointed to head up the provincial police, NBD.
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Don't care, electricity is cheap now. Switched over to fossil fuel heating anyway.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Don't care, electricity is cheap now. Switched over to fossil fuel heating anyway. I guess the good news is it's no longer possible for the government to commit crimes. No more scandals!
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Guys which PR system do I vote for in BC they're all so much better than FPTP I can't decide
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jfood posted:radical centerists Is that actually a thing you can be? "I will go to any length to ensure that nothing changes for better or for worse. There is no level of obstructionism and obfuscation too extreme to maintain the status quo. " 
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Eej posted:Guys which PR system do I vote for in BC they're all so much better than FPTP I can't decide MMP => RUP > DMP also uh. might wanna get on that today champ.
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The Butcher posted:Is that actually a thing you can be? No man it's calculus. With the current set, things are improving at a pretty good rate and us militant centrists are pretty satisfied with the current rate of things getting better or don't think that your proposal to make things better even faster will actually deliver over our tried and true current implementation.
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THC posted:MMP => RUP > DMP Yeah I was gonna hand in my vote but then it looks like the deadline has been extended to Dec 7 so heck, I can just drop it off next time I'm in Brentwood Mall. MMP's like the standard across the world, why did we have to go invent two new Canadian First versions to make things more complicated
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