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chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Cipher Pol 9 posted:

Yeah, I think Horikoshi wrote the "more real world experience VS more in-class training time" concept and liked it enough to write it in without realizing that it doesn't make any since given the incredibly insignificant amount of time that the two classes have spent in different situations. Or maybe he forgot that the only ones who got a lot of experience are the people who were involved in the Yakuza raid which was three 1-A students so it was silly to apply that standard to the whole class. Either way, it annoys me a ton because you've got people like Hagakure and Koda who do jack poo poo in their fights while everyone in 1-B gets to contribute in some way every round.

Four 1-A students.

Froppy, Uravity, Red Riot, and Deku.

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Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


chiasaur11 posted:

Four 1-A students.

Froppy, Uravity, Red Riot, and Deku.

My bad, I somehow completely forgot about Kirishima.

Also he got taken out near instantly in his match too so gently caress

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Well, USJ was "real world experience" to an extent too, that all of 1-A actually was awake and there for. Not everyone did as much in that either, of course, but it was 1-A facing off against real villains, and was a pretty big deal in-comic back then.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Roland Jones posted:

Well, USJ was "real world experience" to an extent too, that all of 1-A actually was awake and there for. Not everyone did as much in that either, of course, but it was 1-A facing off against real villains, and was a pretty big deal in-comic back then.

1A mostly clowned the poo poo out of the real world villains at USJ and suffered extremely minimal injuries doing so. I think the only one in 1A who actually got hurt at USJ was Deku, so aside from a couple days to a week off for police reports/recovery I don't even think USJ would have cut into their training or class time that much.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Two Tone Shoes posted:

Well, an obvious counter that would absolutely wreck him is Mirio. Doesn't care if the ground is hard or soft.

Ehh. I mean, he's a giant badass, but I don't think a Quirkless person can do much in that kind of situation...:(:

Also Lizard Tail Girl's name is Tokage Setsuna. Which reminds me, she's not the first person we've seen with the Tokage last name, a minor character from Vigilantes is called Tokage Raputo. That said, this seems to be a coincidence, since their last names are written differently, 取と蔭 vs 十日夏.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

Yeah, I think Horikoshi wrote the "more real world experience VS more in-class training time" concept and liked it enough to write it in without realizing that it doesn't make any since given the incredibly insignificant amount of time that the two classes have spent in different situations. Or maybe he forgot that the only ones who got a lot of experience are the people who were involved in the Yakuza raid which was three 1-A students so it was silly to apply that standard to the whole class. Either way, it annoys me a ton because you've got people like Hagakure and Koda who do jack poo poo in their fights while everyone in 1-B gets to contribute in some way every round.

Even with the couple examples ppl are listing, I still don't see this being really shown in the writing. The powerful people in Class B haven't been doing super next level galaxy brain moves or whatever, they just have strong powers that they're using well. You could argue that they're doing a better job of setting up formations quickly and Class A is having to react to that, but that hasn't really been discussed yet or shown very thoroughly.

Maybe it'll come together in a larger analysis of the matches at the end, but it doesn't feel yet like they're handling things differently

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?
If Monoma copied Mudman's quirk and they fought, how would that work?

Also image two people with Lizard Tail Cut fighting each other.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

I feel like Monoma's utility is going to decrease the longer the series goes. Presumably he'll only be able to access a basic level of a quirk, not the stuff you can do after intense training. So, yeah, he can alternate quirks to stay versatile, but he won't be able to do the secret moves that all the students are pulling out now.

Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

Big PP Energy

Bobulus posted:

I feel like Monoma's utility is going to decrease the longer the series goes. Presumably he'll only be able to access a basic level of a quirk, not the stuff you can do after intense training. So, yeah, he can alternate quirks to stay versatile, but he won't be able to do the secret moves that all the students are pulling out now.

I think he would do well finding a small but versatile team and sticking with them, becoming well versed in their quirks. Quirks are so unique that it's very rare to be able to actually teach someone the best way to use them, so he'd be in a uniquely privileged position in that context. "Okay Monoma this is what I've found to be the best way to use this quirk", stuff like that.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?
With the way everyone else's quirks have been shown to improve since the Sports Festival, I bet we'll find out that Monoma can now either use quirks for longer than 5 minutes(which would give him more time to get familiar and skilled with his classmate's quirks) or he'll gain the ability to use multiple quirks at once(which would basically make him a mini All For One).

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Rhonne posted:

If Monoma copied Mudman's quirk and they fought, how would that work?

Also image two people with Lizard Tail Cut fighting each other.

like a swarm of gnats that scream and bleed

Brandfarlig
Nov 5, 2009

These colours don't run.

Oxxidation posted:

like a swarm of gnats that scream and bleed

Might as well cover your suit in razor blades and just fly at each other. Poison them while you're at it.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?

Brandfarlig posted:

Might as well cover your suit in razor blades and just fly at each other. Poison them while you're at it.

Actually now that I think about it, how does her suit come apart and reform with her?

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Rhonne posted:

Actually now that I think about it, how does her suit come apart and reform with her?
I think that's why it looks like scales. I guess it all links together via technomagic and detaches/reattaches as she uses her quirk.

ThingOne
Jul 30, 2011



Would you like some tofu?


Rhonne posted:

Actually now that I think about it, how does her suit come apart and reform with her?

It's probably made from her hair like Mirio's costume.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Probably will not be addressed, but I can't stop thinking about all the bacteria she'd get inside her body by splitting into all those pieces all the time. There's a reason we are so careful about sterility in operating rooms.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Look if Captain Buggy has made it this far without gangrene, so can Lizard Girl.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
If she can keep all the blood and other things in her body when she does that she can keep stuff out. Something something telekinesis force fields something something.

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011
If Aizawa shut her quirk off while in use would that be lethal? What if he could only see a few parts of her?

Maybe best not to think about it.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



what if it just forced her to come back together

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?
I still want to know if Team Bakugo has to throw all of her in the jail in order to "capture" her, or if they just need to like, grab the head or something.

Reallycoolname
Feb 26, 2008

Take a look! It's in a book!
A reminder that the sand hero.dude escorting Overhaul to the hospital was straight up killed because half of his mass got compressed wgile he was sand.

Presumably it would be equally lethal for lizard girl.

Rouncer
Jul 23, 2009

Rhonne posted:

I still want to know if Team Bakugo has to throw all of her in the jail in order to "capture" her, or if they just need to like, grab the head or something.

Most likely just a piece according to the rules that Vlad was lawyering. Ojiro was literally restraining Pony when she shoved them both into her teams cage at which point he had to release her and accept his confinement.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Reallycoolname posted:

A reminder that the sand hero.dude escorting Overhaul to the hospital was straight up killed because half of his mass got compressed wgile he was sand.

Presumably it would be equally lethal for lizard girl.

Actually, he was killed because he was trapped in a tiny ball with Dabi's fire and couldn't turn all of his body into sand, so he got burned to death in there, if I recall correctly.

That said, Aizawa looking at Tokage while she's using her powers would probably be super bad for her, yeah.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

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I imagine it would simply disable her ability to control her pieces with no other harmful effects, because this would be a super loving dark manga if it just straight up killed her.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?

Shadowlyger posted:

I imagine it would simply disable her ability to control her pieces with no other harmful effects, because this would be a super loving dark manga if it just straight up killed her.

I bet at some point in the manga, Aizawa will kill at least one villain from erasing their quirk. Something like:

"Haha, my quirk allows me to regenerate from any damage!"
*erases villain's quirk while he has a pipe going through his chest*
"Well gently caress."

Rouncer
Jul 23, 2009

Rhonne posted:

I bet at some point in the manga, Aizawa will kill at least one villain from erasing their quirk. Something like:

"Haha, my quirk allows me to regenerate from any damage!"
*erases villain's quirk while he has a pipe going through his chest*
"Well gently caress."

I'm hoping for an old vampire moment where Aizawa looks at AfO and he rapidly dies in a most horrible fashion.

oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

I never really understood the "Quirk Factor" explanation in the Overhaul arc, so I have no idea if it would work that way. But it would be pretty bitchin'.

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.
You see, there's these little bacteria that live in everyone's blood, and if you have a lot of them you can use *checks notes* ... your quirk.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Shadowlyger posted:

I imagine it would simply disable her ability to control her pieces with no other harmful effects, because this would be a super loving dark manga if it just straight up killed her.

This. Aizawa's quirk turns off the "quirk factor" that allows people to activate and use their quirks. If doesn't affect body transformation type quirks so for example Bakugou's sweat would still be nitroglycerin but he would not be able to ignite it to blow stuff up. Tokage's body is not bleeding everywhere and she has no trouble living when it's separated now so it wouldn't happen under Aizawa's influence either. She would just lose the ability to further separate and all of her parts would fall down since she wouldn't be able to make them fly around anymore.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Monoma would be strong if he was Super Skrull

But he's not

wokow6
Oct 19, 2013
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/my-hero-academia/en/0/208/page/1

And the winner is...

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
:hai:That's some fine rear end teamwork right there. Momo....your fight looks worse with every passing chapter.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Nice showing from Bakugo.

1-B based their whole plan on him being an rear end in a top hat who no-one can work well with, which was a major mistake, since only half of that is still true.

Been a while since we were reminded just how dangerous King Explosion Murder is, and it's nice to know he hasn't been slacking.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



rip lizard girl, you tried

deku's gonna get owned next fight isn't he

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013
This one wasn't much of a surprise. Bakugo wins, that's just his thing. He also won in a good way, that showcased how much he had grown. There wasn't much focus on Jiro, Sero and...uh...Sugar man?, but they were shown to be competent with using their power and trusting Bakugo, so that's nice.

Also lol, if Momo's team will be the only loss for class A.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


God, this chapter would loving rule if I wasn't forced to compare it to the last two rounds.

I get it, Bakugou's the fighting wunderkind, so I can't be TOO mad that he can take out an entire team nearly singlehandedly. The others basically just backed him up while he did everything. A legitimate strategy, sure! But aggravating since it amounted to "free Bakugo from one trap and then fight one guy (that Bakugo could have taken out anyway once he finished defeating the other two)." It just becomes a bit annoying to see them win so effortlessly against more impressive quirks (compared to the last two 1-B teams) AND a recommended student (not that that matters given the existence of Yao) just because Bakugou is OP and their teamwork is somehow flawless because he said "hey let's support each other" before the fight. Wish the other teams had thought of that. Oh and they somehow discerned Tokage's whole quirk based on the most vague of evidences. Not that it mattered since she was fighting solo at the end anyway.

Meanwhile team Yaoyorozu fought against significantly worse quirks (minus one throaty mushroom) and they got demolished because 3/4 of the team haven't learned a thing all year. I'm not even angry because Yao and Tokoyami lost despite the former deserving better and the latter being cheated, it's just all the more infuriating that in particular Hagakure and Aoyama were so completely wasted when Sugar Man of all people finally gets to contribute (even if it's one thing, but it's punching apart steel so it's a pretty cool thing.) At least the story had the guts to pretend Ojiro and Shoji were being useful last round.


I think I just need to let the last two battles go and get back to enjoying the story with the acceptance that the cast is just too big for everyone to be treated fairly. If they had reordered the battles so that we didn't get two really disappointing results sandwiched between two great rounds maybe it wouldn't feel so bad.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Hell yeah Bakugo my boy, you Baku-GO!

Alfalfa The Roach
Oct 13, 2012

You need to be a badass first.
Katsuki Motherfucking Bakugou

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Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
A good fight IMO even if I think Sato could've done a bit more but eh- there's not much you could do with the guy that wouldn't involve him really beating the poo poo out of someone and that somehow would look worse (I mean, meaner/nastier) than anime-hatchmark explosions.

This is the closest thing to a real fight Bakugou has had in a zillion chapters so of course he's going to utterly loving murk 1-B; his entire thing is being extremely good at fighting. 1-B would've been correct about their strategy probably a scant couple of months ago in-world; Bakugou absolutely would've just told the group to follow him and do his own thing the entire time while everyone else flailed to work around him.

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