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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

GalacticAcid posted:

What I'm saying here is the Brooklyn Podcast Crew could be calling attention to local organizers and issues in a way that ties them to national stories, if they were so inclined. That they don't is ah, bad.

asking organizers go on cum town seems like hell for everyone involved

GalacticAcid posted:

imagining every party having a podcast instead of a newspaper

this already happened dude

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double negative
Jul 7, 2003


ShriekingMarxist posted:

i don't disagree with the idea that "minority groups are not monolithic in their politics", but this goes on to some incredibly :chloe: conclusions with weird barbs tossed out

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/28/people-of-color-liberals-democrats-solve-problems

looks like dude tried to make an article out of a twitter argument he had with a white liberal and was still 300 words short 30 minutes before the deadline, but really who hasn't been there

as response to that liberal that thinks demographic trends will save them from the right i guess it does its job, but the dance he tries to do around particularity and forging a universal politics is a great example of the left being terrible at talking about race and class

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/halfmadeup/status/1067947377212850176?s=21

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos
cool that this still exists

http://www.kpss.org/

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

i think i know the basis for this statement, but still lol

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


*approaches a Jewish woman being menaced by the Black 100*

Ma'am are these gentlemen botherin' yew?

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

GalacticAcid posted:

who was it on twitter that said with each passing day we grow closer to a sitting congressman using the word “tankie”
during his riveting press conference after charlottesville we came within a pubic hair of trump entering the words "social justice warrior" into the international lexicon

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
the main problem with demographics politics in the U.S. context or with the two parties is that it's focused on maintaining or regaining a superficial edge in the balance of power so it doesn't break the country out of its paralysis and inability to deal with its long-term problems

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
both parties do it, and it adds up to just building just enough of a coalition to squeak by in the normal to-and-fro of the election cycles

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
yeah everyone wants to win with 51 votes, so they can blame everyone else for only making rich people's lives better

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Michael Tracey has such an incredibly stinky rear end that he lets his crack hang out, even when he’s meeting girls from the Internet

I’m not joking

Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Nov 29, 2018

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


I bet a lot of people itt listen to Citations Needed. They put out an episode about Neoliberal Optimism bullshit (Pinker and Gladwell etc) that is very sharp. In general I think they set a very high standard of journalistic analysis, they really are the muck-rakers of the 21st century, but my god it is getting to the point where I can't listen to a whole episode without getting impracticality angry.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Lobe posted:

I bet a lot of people itt listen to Citations Needed. They put out an episode about Neoliberal Optimism bullshit (Pinker and Gladwell etc) that is very sharp. In general I think they set a very high standard of journalistic analysis, they really are the muck-rakers of the 21st century, but my god it is getting to the point where I can't listen to a whole episode without getting impracticality angry.

I was kinda familiar with the whole thing about how World Bank poverty metrics are BS and how Pinker "massages" those numbers (Rev Left Radio and Mehdi Hassan have both done Pinker takedowns), but the commentary that really struck me this go-around was the incredible wealth outflow/imbalance from the global south to the global north, and just the basic rhetorical framing that China, for however market-liberalized it has become, did so on its own terms rather than being dictated to by the West, and how that's "worked out" for them.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

gradenko_2000 posted:

I was kinda familiar with the whole thing about how World Bank poverty metrics are BS and how Pinker "massages" those numbers (Rev Left Radio and Mehdi Hassan have both done Pinker takedowns), but the commentary that really struck me this go-around was the incredible wealth outflow/imbalance from the global south to the global north, and just the basic rhetorical framing that China, for however market-liberalized it has become, did so on its own terms rather than being dictated to by the West, and how that's "worked out" for them.

I knew abstractly how neocolonialism worked, but for every 1 dollar received from the 1st world, the 3rd world loses 24 dollars was way more extreme than I'd thought.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Yeah, that was the point where I got so mad I had to take a break. The wholesale robbery of the global south juxtaposed with the barely veiled racial narratives of their poverty is just so evil, and hearing those figures just made it all so concrete.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
looking at this article on the WSWS from this month about trotsky. opening line:

quote:

The assassination of Leon Trotsky in Mexico City on August 20, 1940 was the greatest crime of the 20th century
hmm yeah i dunno about that. i can think of worse crimes

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I can think of about 6 million crimes

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
602 pages of crimes

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQsLOkEW5Cg

Jimmy Dore says GM should've been turned into a co-op and "Marx was right." :ussr:

You don't have to watch the video I just wanted to point it out.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
if anyone wants to see a translation for that east german cop guide on spotting youth subcultures here it is:



BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
turn down that drat music, ya kids!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1XspV1sRKg

THS
Sep 15, 2017

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

if anyone wants to see a translation for that east german cop guide on spotting youth subcultures here it is:





drat i always knew metalheads were cops and sellouts

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

the Stasi seems way more respectable knowing that they were repressing Rockabillies

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

looking at this article on the WSWS from this month about trotsky. opening line:

hmm yeah i dunno about that. i can think of worse crimes

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTrotskyists/comments/9knuuo/why_is_there_no_discussion_of_the_icfi_and_the/

they're a laughingstock even among Trots. Also apparently David North is a millionaire CEO with an non-union workforce.

i don't think I've ever come across anyone on the leftist internet that likes them*. their support base seems entirely made up of an army of bot accounts, there's tons of accounts that do nothing but retweet only WSWS and SEP.

* - apart from WSWS' own comment section I should say, which is pretty hilarious to read. it's like they're pretending their post is being red on a soap box at a 1920s secret party rally.

Graphic fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Nov 30, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0VZe1NseZ8

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the Stasi seems way more respectable knowing that they were repressing Rockabillies
goths being apolitical is also very true in my experience

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 58 minutes!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQsLOkEW5Cg

Jimmy Dore says GM should've been turned into a co-op and "Marx was right." :ussr:

You don't have to watch the video I just wanted to point it out.
jeremy corbyn has a plan for scenarios exactly like this called the right of first refusal

the workers get to vote when a workplace is closed down, offshored, bought out, or merged to be able to turn their workplace into a worker co-op. the government will give them the funds for this purpose.

think of pointing to the countless examples like this that happen in america and telling the workers of this as a solution

the current state of american politics is workers themselves can offer to buy a factory that is being closed down, the workers can have the funding to do so, and the company can still refuse to do so and close the workplace and refuse to let them buy it

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

looking at this article on the WSWS from this month about trotsky. opening line:

hmm yeah i dunno about that. i can think of worse crimes

The Assassination Of Leon Trotsky By The Comrade Ramón Mercader

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

Pablo Nergigante posted:

The Assassination Of Leon Trotsky By The Comrade Ramón Mercader

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Graphic posted:

i don't think I've ever come across anyone on the leftist internet that likes them*. their support base seems entirely made up of an army of bot accounts, there's tons of accounts that do nothing but retweet only WSWS and SEP.

my dad visits WSWS regularly and still invites me to join their "online May Day rally" every year, which I guess is the leftist equivalent of crazy internet forwards from your parents

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

hosed up that my main criticism of the stasi sub culture chart is that they aren't harsh enough on rockabillies

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

It's kind of hosed up it doesn't include mods

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

gradenko_2000 posted:

my dad visits WSWS regularly and still invites me to join their "online May Day rally" every year, which I guess is the leftist equivalent of crazy internet forwards from your parents
The socialists here have barbecues in the park on May Day so it's not a difficult decision about which one to go to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLX4NYrW1bI

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
May Day is not about grilling!!!

-- the wsws probably

edit: And it's technically against the law to drink booze in the park but they do that too so conclusion: Trots = cops

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
the cumtown bit about the weatherman that keeps trying to slip in "has metoo gone too far" except its David North

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

if anyone wants to see a translation for that east german cop guide on spotting youth subcultures here it is:





im either the punk Deacons or the mohawk (iroqouis)

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Graphic posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTrotskyists/comments/9knuuo/why_is_there_no_discussion_of_the_icfi_and_the/

they're a laughingstock even among Trots. Also apparently David North is a millionaire CEO with an non-union workforce.

i don't think I've ever come across anyone on the leftist internet that likes them*. their support base seems entirely made up of an army of bot accounts, there's tons of accounts that do nothing but retweet only WSWS and SEP.

* - apart from WSWS' own comment section I should say, which is pretty hilarious to read. it's like they're pretending their post is being red on a soap box at a 1920s secret party rally.

they were the ones that ran the "kavanaugh is an imperialist tool but lets not accuse him of rape" take right

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

StashAugustine posted:

they were the ones that ran the "kavanaugh is an imperialist tool but lets not accuse him of rape" take right

https://twitter.com/WSWS_Updates/status/1048030062367465472

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


when everyone recognizes that you're unimportant so they don't bother to ratio your tweet

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Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Victory Position posted:

when everyone recognizes that you're unimportant so they don't bother to ratio your tweet

even having been a member of the ISO when I lived in the US 9 months ago, it is hard to feel anything but mild bewilderment when seeing a take like that. I assume it is the product of some kind of mental illness

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