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Some friends and I were talking about this and this quote from Reddit was also posted: https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/a1p7lh/official_politics_thread_30_november_2018/easrb5i/ posted:I know a lot of people are talking that the bump stock ban is specifically for bump stocks, but in reading the actual text of what batfe issued back in April, it sounds like binary triggers would also be wrapped up in this because they’re redefining “single action of a trigger” to “a single PULL of the trigger,” whereby any additional rounds fired during that single pull, would not be considered semi automatic. Binarys are currently legal b/c the pull and release of a trigger are two separate actions, but if they redefine trigger “action” to trigger “pull” I don’t see how binarys can be legal because the second shot is a release, not a pull. The only way the second shot would be a pull is if the trigger has a ring on it you put your finger into and you “pulled” it forward... And for those like me who didn't know what a binary trigger was: quote:binary triggers are devices that fire one round when you pull the trigger…and another when you release it So if these get inadvertently banned too, that would be good. edit for cat tax 
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hhaha what the gently caress why are those legal.
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CuddleCryptid posted:A lot of bump stocks are going to find their way into plastic bags and then shallow holes in the ground. oh dear me we'll just have to throw lots of bump stock owners in jail
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Nov 30, 2018 18:51
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eke out posted:okay this is also a huge story, they have a paper trail of false statements made to the FTC investigating him 
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Nov 30, 2018 18:52
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quote:I've been connecting some dots lately that are red-pill worthy about Trump lately. Maybe the Libertarians were right. Wow.
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If there are any Anchorage goons here, I hope you're ok... https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1068562779035103232
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I would argue that, before you even reach Roberts, you'd need to convince the Senate parliamentarian. On top of that, the only reason McConnel would want to Garland an impeachment trial would be if he thought Trump would lose, and at that point he's already lost control of a majority of his party.
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Nov 30, 2018 18:54
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Seeing MAGAs melt down is probably my favorite thing. Funny thing about politicians and especially presidents: give them enough time, it's a GUARANTEE they will disappoint you and/or piss you off at some point.
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Nov 30, 2018 18:55
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:And somehow, some way, this will become that bastard Obama's fault. Well if you go by many of the "leftists" itt everything hosed up at this point is his fault cause he didn't socialism or something hard enough.
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eke out posted:i think you'd essentially need John Roberts to agree with you to accomplish this That's fine, if John Roberts backs up McConnell in not even bring a successful impeachment to trial in the senate that is one more thing we can bring up when we pack the courts
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Tibalt posted:I would argue that, before you even reach Roberts, you'd need to convince the Senate parliamentarian. On top of that, the only reason McConnel would want to Garland an impeachment trial would be if he thought Trump would lose, and at that point he's already lost control of a majority of his party. It's not clear to me that's true. He might prefer to just ignore it to avoid his members needing to take a stand one way or another, even knowing that he can round up the votes to acquit Trump.
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Tibalt posted:I would argue that, before you even reach Roberts, you'd need to convince the Senate parliamentarian. On top of that, the only reason McConnel would want to Garland an impeachment trial would be if he thought Trump would lose, and at that point he's already lost control of a majority of his party. Yeah, I pretty much agree. If Trump goes down then he's the biggest domino and the rest go down. They'd jump at the chance to protect him.
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Your Taint posted:If there are any Anchorage goons here, I hope you're ok... Holy poo poo. If this turns out to do substantial damage and we against all odds get meaningful indictments today, I may request that those of you who toxxed redirect your toxxes to disaster relief charities.
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Nov 30, 2018 18:57
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Lightning Knight posted:Holy poo poo. Done. Is the Red Cross a good one or are there better ones?
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Nov 30, 2018 18:58
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Groovelord Neato posted:hhaha what the gently caress why are those legal. Because second amendment means people should be able to have any sort of offensive weapon they want, up to and including low yield nuclear weapons. What are you, some sort of liberal?  Edit: also lol if this is the thing that meaningfully affects chud support, instead of any other thing smoothbrain has done. Meatball fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:Some friends and I were talking about this and this quote from Reddit was also posted: Forget Stoner Ingenuity, Gun Nut Ingenuity is something to behold. It's amazing to see all these "well TECHNICALLY" things when getting it wrong means prison. Sounds about white.
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Nov 30, 2018 18:59
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evilweasel posted:It's not clear to me that's true. He might prefer to just ignore it to avoid his members needing to take a stand one way or another, even knowing that he can round up the votes to acquit Trump. i almost can't imagine this scenario - where dems have sufficient evidence to convict (a normal president) and McConnell blocks it - not being objectively better for Democrats going into the 2020 election than a purely partisan acquittal
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Skex posted:Well if you go by many of the "leftists" itt everything hosed up at this point is his fault cause he didn't socialism or something hard enough. Stop whining. This is not something people have claimed. evilweasel posted:It's not clear to me that's true. He might prefer to just ignore it to avoid his members needing to take a stand one way or another, even knowing that he can round up the votes to acquit Trump. Yeah, McConnell's not the decisive strategic mastermind that the media likes to paint him as. His "strategy" is to hem and haw, and a lot of the time that turns out to be the right move. eke out posted:i almost can't imagine this scenario - where dems have sufficient evidence to convict (a normal president) and McConnell blocks it - not being objectively better for Democrats going into the 2020 election than a purely partisan acquittal Well, that's kind of the sticking point, though, isn't it? Conviction and removal of a president from office is still a purely political remedy. There's not much to keep Senate Republicans from plugging their ears and going "Nuh uh, that's not compelling evidence," other than their constituents rising up in fury over it. Majorian fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:hhaha what the gently caress why are those legal. Same question except belt fed firearms (unless that TD poster was talking out of his rear end).
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evilweasel posted:It's not clear to me that's true. He might prefer to just ignore it to avoid his members needing to take a stand one way or another, even knowing that he can round up the votes to acquit Trump. Yeah that's my thought too. If it goes forward individual senators can be pressured to vote to convict. If it never hits the floor, nobody takes blame.
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When firing a gun, why would you want to be required to take two shots by pulling and releasing the trigger? What purpose does that even serve outside of trying to murder people?
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evilweasel posted:It's not clear to me that's true. He might prefer to just ignore it to avoid his members needing to take a stand one way or another, even knowing that he can round up the votes to acquit Trump. What the gently caress makes any of us think that McConnell's even got the power to ignore CJ Roberts with articles of impeachment under his arm? Or are we suggesting that Roberts will help him scuttle?
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Your Taint posted:Done. Is the Red Cross a good one or are there better ones? I'm not sure, but let's wait and see. There's a tsunami warning for the area but it's possible people might be safe because of the topography. If it does serious damage I'm sure we'll see announcements as to charities and disaster relief efforts.
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I can't imagine there's not damage in Anchorage. The 1989 San Fransisco earthquake was 6.9 and part of the Bay Bridge collapsed. Quake has now been adjusted to 7.0.
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eke out posted:i almost can't imagine this scenario - where dems have sufficient evidence to convict (a normal president) and McConnell blocks it - not being objectively better for Democrats going into the 2020 election than a purely partisan acquittal In that case it's a lose-lose situation for each Republican senator. Either they vote to convict, dooming themselves in their next primary, or they vote to acquit, which may be an anchor around their necks in any general election for the foreseeable future. But if McConnell just blocks it, they can claim they never got a chance to review the evidence so they just have no idea, what a pity.
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I know a couple people in Anchorage and they're reporting walls collapsed and some significant damage. The epicenter was just a few miles from the city.
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Astro7x posted:When firing a gun, why would you want to be required to take two shots by pulling and releasing the trigger? What purpose does that even serve outside of trying to murder people? Exactly what you just said
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:So if these get inadvertently banned too, that would be good. FunFact: Those "failures" above are well documented and the "wear" that causes them can be done with a few minutes and a file. There's tons of wink-wink-nudge-nudge instructions on gun forums about how to "fix" it which of course a step-by-step guide on how to cause it.
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FuturePastNow posted:I know a couple people in Anchorage and they're reporting walls collapsed and some significant damage. The epicenter was just a few miles from the city. 10 miles NE according to reports, so nearly a direct hit.
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FuturePastNow posted:I know a couple people in Anchorage and they're reporting walls collapsed and some significant damage. The epicenter was just a few miles from the city. gently caress. This is the worst time of year for this to happen too because there could be snow on the ground.
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Your Taint posted:I can't imagine there's not damage in Anchorage. The 1989 San Fransisco earthquake was 6.9 and part of the Bay Bridge collapsed. I always joke that I was conceived during that earthquake so it is possible I am the harbinger of the apocalypse and I have already racked up a prenatal body count. My grandpa saved the newspaper from that day and the writing was like night and day compared to a column in today's paper. It was stilted and very fact-based. It was wild comparing it to a paper from today. Does Anchorage get quakes often? Do they have the same building protections California has?
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mdemone posted:What the gently caress makes any of us think that McConnell's even got the power to ignore CJ Roberts with articles of impeachment under his arm? Edit: in particular to your point, there isn't really a mechanism in place to handle the Supreme Court and House trying to force business on the Senate besides a desire by the Sargent at Arms to avoid punching any Bailiffs. Tibalt fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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Your Taint posted:I can't imagine there's not damage in Anchorage. The 1989 San Fransisco earthquake was 6.9 and part of the Bay Bridge collapsed. Oh *poo poo* How prepared is Alaska for earthquakes?
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Your Taint posted:I can't imagine there's not damage in Anchorage. The 1989 San Fransisco earthquake was 6.9 and part of the Bay Bridge collapsed. Good thing to remember is that each 10th of a point on that scale is 10x the energy
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh *poo poo* All TV stations are off the air and only one radio station is operational.
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Astro7x posted:When firing a gun, why would you want to be required to take two shots by pulling and releasing the trigger? What purpose does that even serve outside of trying to murder people? Like the bump stocks it is a way to get around the law banning automatic weapons. Of course the second shot is probably going to go wild unless you shoot at a regular speed, so it's for people who want to just spray bullets.
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evilweasel posted:In that case it's a lose-lose situation for each Republican senator. Either they vote to convict, dooming themselves in their next primary, or they vote to acquit, which may be an anchor around their necks in any general election for the foreseeable future. But if McConnell just blocks it, they can claim they never got a chance to review the evidence so they just have no idea, what a pity. yeah if it were to play out that way, it would be extremely important for democratic-led house committees to take some potentially extraordinary steps to make the evidence they would otherwise be presenting at impeachment public. i know dems are a waste and whatnot but i have a feeling people like Adam Schiff would be very amenable to doing just this - compiling a public report and releasing it, or whatever
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Jaxyon posted:Good thing to remember is that each 10th of a point on that scale is 10x the energy Yeah, 7 is kinda the "historic catastrophe" threshold
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Your Taint posted:All TV stations are off the air and only one radio station is operational. Oh man this is gonna be real bad actually. 
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