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mp5 posted:So what’s it gonna take to get an analysis of the second book in here Not sure if this is a joke post or not - in that a LOT of discussion of that book has happened in this thread and the previous one. What exactly are you looking for here?
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Nov 30, 2018 19:34
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Second book, not so good.
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Nov 30, 2018 20:05
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Karnegal posted:Not sure if this is a joke post or not - in that a LOT of discussion of that book has happened in this thread and the previous one. What exactly are you looking for here? a BOTL-tier blow-by-blow of the whole thing
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Nov 30, 2018 21:17
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mp5 posted:a BOTL-tier blow-by-blow of the whole thing Why do you hate yourself Or us
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Nov 30, 2018 21:42
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mp5 posted:a BOTL-tier blow-by-blow of the whole thing I think he's in Forum Jail right now, but maybe when he gets back he'll fulfill your wish like the world's shittiest genie.
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Nov 30, 2018 21:50
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Yikes he ate another month well yeah hopefully when he's back he can name a suitable price
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Nov 30, 2018 22:02
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mp5 posted:Yikes he ate another month Here's Ronan Will's already completed chapter by chapter which I find much more entertaining than the BOTL version https://doinginthewizard.wordpress.com/category/lets-read-twmf/
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Dec 1, 2018 02:23
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mp5 posted:a BOTL-tier blow-by-blow of the whole thing I don't think anyone is labouring under the illusion that WMF actually has anything good though. Even the people who liked Notw's purple prose and urchin misery tended to recoil at the sex ninjas. A take down of a book that is commonly understood as awful isn't really necessary. What I'd like to see is a take down of various fantasy poems. I can recognise Rothfuss's poems as awful, and the Malazan poems really piss me off, but I know even less about poetry than I do about prose, and a take down of fantasy poems is at least an interesting angle to approach it from
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But if you enjoy take downs of bad books, here's a single session helping for WMF if you don't want to read a chapter-by-chapter http://ferretbrain.com/articles/article-751 Edit: Sorry, I forgot to include an excerpt: 'Oh Felurian. Where to begin. Felurian is that staple of fantasy novels, the deadly naked sex monster. She's the most beautiful, most alluring, most sexually attractive woman you'll ever see, and she will totally kill you with sex. Felurian is the sirens, and Artemis and pretty much every other sex-death-nudity chick from mythology or fiction rolled into one. Kvothe catches her, bones her, breaks free of her sex-death-nudity mind control, completely whips her rear end in a straight fight, then bones her again, then plays music that makes her think he's awesome, then writes half a song about her that is so awesome that she agrees to let him go so that he can finish it, then disses her sexual prowess, which prompts her to get really insecure and tell him what an amazing lover he is, then they have sex some more, then she sews him a magic cloak, while he goes away and talks to a prophetic tree which turns out to be evil. Then they have sex some more, then he comes back to the real world and is all “bros, I totally did it with Felurian” and everybody is all like “no way, you'd be mad or dead” and he's like “no I totally did it with Felurian” and then the hot barmaid from earlier is all like “no he's definitely telling the truth because I am a woman and I can see that he has got totally sexed up since we last met, because I tried to sex him and it freaked him out, but now it looks like he wouldn't be freaked out and also he would be totally awesome at sexing.” Then Kvothe does sex with the hot barmaid and he is totally awesome at it, and he explains how doing sex with the hot barmaid is totally as good as doing sex with Felurian, because women are like music and sometimes you want to listen to a beautiful symphony and sometimes you just want a nice simple jig, and by the way this definitely isn't sexist, and if you think it is then you know nothing about music or love or him.' Karnegal fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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Dec 2, 2018 05:58
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Did BOTL break down Rothfuss' side book "The Slow Regard of Silent Things"?
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i am felurian irl and let me tell you, i suck rear end and can't keep a job
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incredible flesh posted:i am felurian irl and let me tell you, i suck rear end and can't keep a job That's weird, pretty sure people will pay you to suck rear end. Tried putting on clothes? Karnegal posted:But if you enjoy take downs of bad books, here's a single session helping for WMF if you don't want to read a chapter-by-chapter http://ferretbrain.com/articles/article-751 Yeah it's loving stupid. It's not the worst writing I've ever seen (I reserve that for Lev "aptly named" Grossman and the fox sex bullshit) but it's wayyy up there.
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TV Zombie posted:Did BOTL break down Rothfuss' side book "The Slow Regard of Silent Things"? The I Don't Even Own a Television podcast about bad books did an episode on it. They liked it more than I expected. Maybe reading it with no knowledge of the rest of the series is best. Still a good episode of a really good podcast.
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The thing Lamps reviews did that the others don’t is cover the deficiencies of the prose in detail, the clash of diction and register and tone. But those are fairly consistently flawed across both books so if you read his review of the first you don’t really need it spelled out again for the second.
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incredible flesh posted:i am felurian irl and let me tell you, i suck rear end Queen of sex fairies indeed
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I was pretty stoked at 16 when I would last through an entire Nine Inch Nail song. Kvothe hosed the tits off a sex goddess and then wrote a song about it. This makes me feel like maybe I haven't lived my best life.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I was pretty stoked at 16 when I would last through an entire Nine Inch Nail song. Kvothe hosed the tits off a sex goddess and then wrote a song about it. This makes me feel like maybe I haven't lived my best life. He had his sexual awakening with death sex god of the fae but then went back to being completely incompetent with denna so not sure how much you should read into it mewse fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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It's hard to say how much of that is due to his inability to write consistent, coherent character arcs and how much of it is the fact that the book is a series of disjointed vignettes written at wildly different points in time that were poorly stitched together after he realized he needed a second book.
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Dec 2, 2018 17:24
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Only in the fantasy section of the bookstore can you get by with "setup books".
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Maybe the whole thing with Felurian is Kvothe being an unreliable narrator, and she isn't an unattainable sex goddess so much as a deranged hermit living in the forest and thinking the trees are conspiring against her. And he misunderstood when he thought everyone was saying that you couldn't have sex with her and survive, when they were really saying "sex with that deranged hermit would be a fate worse than death." Everyone wasn't amazed that he survived, but that he had sex with her at all, and even more that he dared show his face again to brag about it.
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Dec 2, 2018 17:58
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Raimi backed out. Movie is dead.
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Cukor was fired. Movie is dead. It's a nice bit of schadenfreude, but come on. Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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Dec 2, 2018 18:39
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AngusPodgorny posted:Maybe the whole thing with Felurian is Kvothe being an unreliable narrator, and she isn't an unattainable sex goddess so much as a deranged hermit living in the forest and thinking the trees are conspiring against her.
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Only in the fantasy section of the bookstore can you get by with "setup books". Oh my god this. The number of fantasy books that are just moving pieces around to set up the next book is astonishingly frustrating. You could excise maybe 5 books of nothingness from Wheel of Time and still be left with one of the longest series (serieses?) of all time.
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There's some good stand alone Guy Gavriel Kay books. Tigrana and A Song For Arbonne are both great one-shot novels. Probably best to ask in the main SF/Fantasy thread.
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TV Zombie posted:Are there any good self-contained fantasy books?
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https://www.ohjoysextoy.com/patrick-rothfus-charity-comic/ For anyone who ever wondered about the (completely irrelevant) sexuality of any of Rothfuss’ characters. Merry Christmas, y’all.
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Doctor Faustine posted:https://www.ohjoysextoy.com/patrick-rothfus-charity-comic/ Yeesh. Yeeeeeeesh. I wish that was a silence in three parts.
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Doctor Faustine posted:https://www.ohjoysextoy.com/patrick-rothfus-charity-comic/ Lol, this is real. I thought it was a parody, but that's really Rothfuss.
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Doctor Faustine posted:https://www.ohjoysextoy.com/patrick-rothfus-charity-comic/ Ohhh god and it's Oh Joy Sex Toy It's like poo poo meets vomit, a pair made in hell
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that was a fresh new hell for me so thanks?
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I'm impressed by how accurately Rothfuss managed to capture the feeling of lovely teenaged fanfiction despite being the actual author of the book. The vague, undefined space where the characters just kinda hang out together when they aren't being written about, the stupid snarky Whedon-y voice that he gave all of them because this is Comedy, the fact that they're all talking about Kinsey scores and polyamory... it's a heady brew. Also "takes the reigns" 
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Doctor Faustine posted:https://www.ohjoysextoy.com/patrick-rothfus-charity-comic/ I think I'm missing something, but I can't parse the end of that. "I guess I want someone who wants me for who I really am. Is there a name for that?" "People get that from a lot of different places. From friends. From family." "What if you don't have any of those? ... So, would anyone like a drink?" WTF is even being said there? The context is sex, so I hope he's not getting that from his family. Also, love the ethereal dream-girl Auri noping out of the conversation. She is too pure and holy for sex, Rothfuss would feel his nerd-dreams sullied otherwise.
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StonecutterJoe posted:I think I'm missing something, but I can't parse the end of that. "I guess I want someone who wants me for who I really am. Is there a name for that?" "People get that from a lot of different places. From friends. From family." "What if you don't have any of those? ... So, would anyone like a drink?" WTF is even being said there? The context is sex, so I hope he's not getting that from his family. He's turned to alcohol to suppress his incestuous fantasies. I mean, I'm not sure how else you interpret it?
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Doctor Faustine posted:https://www.ohjoysextoy.com/patrick-rothfus-charity-comic/ How do you overwrite and yet completely botch such a simple guest comic.
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Okay so I know Oh Joy Sex Toy is dumb but as someone who only ever sees it occasionally linked on the web, I don't understand why it's so frequently referred to so disparagingly. Did it have a comic about using racial slurs to spice up your sex life or something? I just don't quite understand the revulsion surrounding it. Lmao that Rothfart would think that this was a good idea though.
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