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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I feel like it's ok to beat up men for that but not women I’ll amend that it might not be ok for an NFL sized athlete to beat up a normal sized woman, even if she’s Nazi’ing it up. He should find another woman to kick her instead so it doesn’t have bad optics. e: app won’t covert to imigur right now if someone can spot my tax RasperFat fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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A curious phenomenon I have noticed is when a disaster happens, they are usually awful on their own, but on the internet it's like a race to make them sound worse than they are. Like that tweet upthread with something on fire. It's taken from a distance and traffic and stuff is blocking any view of it. It looks like a large fire, and I'm sure it sucks for whoever owns whatever is on fire, but what's the point of posting that? Later, someone will be talking about this earthquake having seen something like that tweet and they will exaggerate a little bit and say "I saw there were huge fires after the earthquake!" I'm not really sure what my point is but I just cringe a little whenever I see things like that and I wish things could just be shown accurately and with pertinent information, but I guess this is how the internet is.
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Lightning Knight posted:There is an entire legal concept built around this in the United States called “fighting words.” And on that note, i'm pretty sure i'm already on thin ice so i'm just gonna nope out on this particular debate.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Get ready guys, the National Football League is getting ready to completely botch another domestic violence incident! Oh they've already all seen it and swept it under the rug. Per the ESPN article: quote:Chiefs owner Clark Hunt also addressed the player's character at that time. I guess Trump's "letting everyone just openly not have to pretend to give a poo poo" has ironically spread to the NFL.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I feel like it's ok to beat up men for that but not women Look at this sexist
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mod sassinator posted:Please explain, what is the complete list of words which when uttered allow a person who hears them to violently assault someone? I'm going to say probably just that one, given context in this country, and an emboldened presence of neo nazi fucks. Open to suggestions though. Your Taint posted:IF she did, I don't know how to feel. I'm still not comfortable with a man hitting a woman under any circumstances other than self-defense. gently caress that Nazi trash is Nazi trash. If someone violently beat the poo poo out of Laura Loomer I'd have a good chuckle.
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mod sassinator posted:Please explain, what is the complete list of words which when uttered allow a person who hears them to violently assault someone? Any racist, sexist, homophobic transphobic, etc bigoted slurs. Unless they're against the oppressor group and then you can shut up and take it. vvv Well to hell with them both then Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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Nov 30, 2018 21:51
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DrNutt posted:I'm going to say probably just that one, given context in this country, and an emboldened presence of neo nazi fucks. Open to suggestions though. According to the story he also tried to force her to have sex with his friend. Not really any great people in this one.
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DrNutt posted:I'm going to say probably just that one, given context in this country, and an emboldened presence of neo nazi fucks. Open to suggestions though. While I kind of agree, I think this is still a very bad idea. I would probably think it’d be funny if Loomer got clocked for saying stupid racist things in real time. But most people would be put off by women getting hit in public. And it would inevitably make people more sympathetic to Nazi scum, which is a step backwards.
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captainblastum posted:According to the story he also tried to force her to have sex with his friend. Not really any great people in this one. jesus. yeah, i don't think i believe him when he said she yelled the N word at him. gently caress this gross rear end in a top hat.
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Nov 30, 2018 21:56
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captainblastum posted:According to the story he also tried to force her to have sex with his friend. Not really any great people in this one. Fair enough. If there is more to the story then so be it, not going to defend an attempted rapist. However white woman accusing black man is probably worthy of a little scrutiny over face value based on historical precedent.
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Lightning Knight posted:There is an entire legal concept built around this in the United States called “fighting words.” well actually, that exists but it just lets you ban the speech rather than decriminalizes hitting someone who says a fighting word so you could arguably ban calling someone the n-word, but that doesn't mean that if you get called the n-word and reflexively punch the person that you have a defense to assault charges
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mod sassinator posted:Please explain, what is the complete list of words which when uttered allow a person who hears them to violently assault someone? Legally? "Please don't beat me, Officer." but only if the person asking has dark skin.
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Kick nazis AND sexmonsters
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Guys, fighting words is about government restrictions on speech, not an affirmative right to throw a punch. e: whups, too slow, so I'll add a link to a popehat podcast about it https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/make-no-law/2018/01/fighting-words/ eviltastic fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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Nov 30, 2018 21:58
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well, thats alot better news.
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Order of events: -She says she's not going to have sex with man -Hunt tells her to leave the room -She calls him the n-word -This starts a fight with another woman, presumably black. -She assaults that woman -Fight escalates outside hotel room to what's on the video. None of these things are mutually exclusive, and all of them are bad. You do not need to rank racism vs. being a creep vs. being violent in general.
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There's no sense in wishing Laura Loomer gets smacked, because she does that to herself at every opportunity. Hard, too.
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evilweasel posted:well actually, that exists but it just lets you ban the speech rather than decriminalizes hitting someone who says a fighting word Dammit.  In general tho it seems agreed that when you talk about "we should punch Nazis," that's an ethical statement, not a legal one. Few people argue it would be legally speaking a good idea to decriminalize punching Nazis, but rather that we should do it as a form of civil disobedience.
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Good. I hope she never breathes free air again.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well, thats alot better news. They've got witnesses who heard her pounding at his door and telling him to open up, and she'd had problems with this guy before. She went downstairs, started poo poo with the guy, and murdered him, then made up her plainly stupid and ridiculous story thinking a jury of bootlickers + her department would protect her. Sad thing is 50/50 chance on that one, glad it came out right.
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Palpable difference when the state voted for Trump
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I feel like when it comes to violence against racists/nazis/etc: the "one good punch' seems more satisfying then an outright beatdown, kind of like slapping someone who says something lovely/stupid, but with an appropriate higher amount of force. After all, you want them to live with the shame.
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Tibalt posted:Fun fact! A major case for this involved a pacifist preacher getting the poo poo kicked out of him by a mob and a judge finding a post-factual justification for extra legal violence. That's Chaplinsky - which, like seemingly every classic offensive speech case in conlaw involves a Jehovah's Witness - those guys had a unique talent of pissing just about everyone off in every possible way which really helped us figure out what speech states are allowed to ban (very, very little)
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I'd say I'm curious to see how Alaska is treated vs Puerto Rico but... we all know how it's gonna go. Even from that tweet it's obvious.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:They've got witnesses who heard her pounding at his door and telling him to open up, and she'd had problems with this guy before. This is just an indictment though, she hasn't actually been convicted right?
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https://twitter.com/juliadavisnews/status/1068530609642004480?s=21 To get back to politics, it’s hilarious that even though Trump licks Putin’s boots constantly Putin still keeps making GBS threads all over him. I’ve been trying to think of another president where the diaper balloon would have happened, and I can’t think of any with so little respect that it’d become a thing. Even Bush with his “Bushisms” (and generally lovely genocidal foreign policies) didn’t get this much hate internationally. I literally cannot imagine any President we’ve ever had be so widely disrespected and thought of like a literal baby.
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Lightning Knight posted:This is just an indictment though, she hasn't actually been convicted right? correct, but just getting the indictment was hard enough because the local police/prosecutors tried to charge it only as a manslaughter. the first time they tried a TEXAS JUDGE took a look at this shooting by a cop of a black guy and was like "no, that's murder, come back here with murder charges not manslaughter" and they had to get a different judge to approve the manslaughter charge
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Lightning Knight posted:This is just an indictment though, she hasn't actually been convicted right? True. I mean look at Daniel Shaver (or better yet, don't) - dude is on camera playing Simon Says with him until he dies and couldn't even get indicted. The good news is that the Texan's A Man's Home Is His Castle seems to have overridden Cops Are Always Right To Shoot Black Guys.
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evilweasel posted:correct, but just getting the indictment was hard enough because the local police/prosecutors tried to charge it only as a manslaughter. the first time they tried a TEXAS JUDGE took a look at this shooting by a cop of a black guy and was like "no, that's murder, come back here with murder charges not manslaughter" and they had to get a different judge to approve the manslaughter charge lol god drat. ACAB. Megaman's Jockstrap posted:True. I mean look at Daniel Shaver (or better yet, don't) - dude is on camera playing Simon Says with him until he dies and couldn't even get indicted. The good news is that the Texan's A Man's Home Is His Castle seems to have overridden Cops Are Always Right To Shoot Black Guys. Also ACAB.
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"To the people of Alaska: you've been hit by a smooth criminal"
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