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Rhonne posted:I bet Shinso will do something super heroic, but will also ultimately cost him the match. Considering there's a poltergeist student I wonder if she'll "wake up" whatever is left of OfA users inside Deku and Shinso is going to save him (and everyone else) by controlling Deku and calming him down. But something that big would be pretty hard to explain to everyone without revealing OfA's secret.
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gmq posted:Considering there's a poltergeist student I wonder if she'll "wake up" whatever is left of OfA users inside Deku and Shinso is going to save him (and everyone else) by controlling Deku and calming him down. She tries to possess Deku, but things go crazy and the spirit of one of the previous OfA users takes over(trapping ghost girl inside Deku's head/soul) and he has no idea what is going on and just starts attacking everyone because he thinks he's in some kind of All For One trap.
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:God, this chapter would loving rule if I wasn't forced to compare it to the last two rounds. The whole point is that Bakugou didn't singlehandedly take out the entire team and it was the seamless teamwork that got 1-A the win. The team is basically set up as Bakugou being the offense, Satou as the second line with Sero and Jirou as support. Since Bakugou has the most mobility and the highest fighting skill he ends up being the one taking point and chasing down the other team but it wouldn't have worked without the rest of the team. Satou breaks Bakugou free and secures Bondo as soon as Bakugou takes him down, letting him keep hunting down the rest of the team without having to stop. Jirou and Seto also take down Awase on their own while Bakugou flies overhead again allowing him to keep moving so the other team couldn't hide.
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Nov 30, 2018 21:37
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lol that bakugou's team has the best teamwork, congrats for jirou for being cool and infinitely more useful than momo (who cant lead, fight, support). sugarman and sato have now done more than her and lol to the guy who acted like bakugou solo'd (even though thats exactly what todoroki and iida tried doing)
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This fight felt a lot better than the previous ones, because both teams actually worked together and the less important players were given time in the spotlight. Every member of both teams was given a chance to show off their stuff in some way, and even though Bakugo's team blew Tokage's team out, nobody looked like a useless jobber. Awase and Bondo both looked way better than anyone on Momo's team except Tokoyami, and they're 1B extras on a team that got annihilated. This fight managed to make Sugarman look cool and useful and he's probably the most superfluous character in 1A.
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Nov 30, 2018 22:03
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Maybe Horikoshi made everyone else suck to make Bakugo look great by comparison. 6d narrative maneuvers over here.
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drjuggalo posted:lol that bakugou's team has the best teamwork, congrats for jirou for being cool and infinitely more useful than momo (who cant lead, fight, support). sugarman and sato have now done more than her and lol to the guy who acted like bakugou solo'd (even though thats exactly what todoroki and iida tried doing) I must have missed the part where Sato cloned himself and replaced Sero. And yeah, Todoroki really did have a poor showing, didn't he? He just tried to melt Tetsutetsu for 20 minutes and passed out. At least Iida captured someone.
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I disagree with people saying Tokage did okay and wasn't a complete jobber. She lost fantastically - her strategy was wrong and her power wasn't just useless, it actively worked against her in the end. That's pretty bad, folks. Horikoshi has been pretty alright with getting female characters screentime and not making them "powerful, but useless against the big strong man", but there are still some instances of female characters losing and sometimes being ... kinda useless.
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Grouchio posted:I expect Deku to do absolute madman things in his fight, like in every fight, and somehow win. I'm also expecting Deku to pull off a 'perfect' victory, but it'll be not so one sided like Bakugo just pulled off Actually I just realized Bakugo's team is the only one who won without anyone captured SgtSteel91 fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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I think the key to why this battle was so good is because it was only two chapters. I feel that Iida and Todoroki’s was four or something
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I disagree with people saying Tokage did okay and wasn't a complete jobber. She lost fantastically - her strategy was wrong and her power wasn't just useless, it actively worked against her in the end. I half agree. Tokage has a great power, great design AND is a recommendation student but all things considered, all she did was do reconnaissance, ineffectively punch Bakugo a few times and formulate a plan that lost them the match and that was it. She really could get a bit better showing. In-fact, she did about as well as Momo and that ain't a compliment. The difference and where I disagree is that it was good plan and Bakugo beating it felt earned. It worked with what they knew about Bakugo's personality not Bakugo's power level and it was Bakugo's character development that made it ineffective, which was something they really couldn't know much about. If Bakugo just learned a few new moves and became stronger like other class A students, then the plan still would have worked and he would still lose. It demonstrated his character development and concrete fruits of progressing his character arc, which was something that was actually needed to be shown. Lt. Lizard fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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The best thing about this chapter was I'll save you shitheads when you get in trouble, and you shitheads can save me when I get in trouble. Like, yeah, that's definitely character growth but it's still pure Bakugo and it's beautiful.
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I'm going to make a prediction and say that Monoma is going to try and still aim for victory for 1B on the grounds that "when we win the last round we may be tied in terms of rounds won/lost, but we'll have captured more people than 1A". Round 1: 2 people from 1A captured, 4 people from 1B captured Round 2: 4 from 1A, 0 from 1B Round 3: 1 each from 1A and 1B Round 4: 0 from 1A, 4 from 1B *Round 5: 4 from 1A, 0 from 1B Final count: 11 people from 1A captured, 9 from 1B captured. *What Monoma thinks will happen.
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tokage had her plan fail and her team failed with it, momo personallly failed her team and in turn lost it all for them. If bakugo was more like his old self it would have been a wash for them but bakugou actually had a plan that wasnt 'let tokoyami try soloing the team while i sit back with a canon like command and conquer'. Tokage also had her team work together unlike momo who had aoyama and tokoyami together (she coulda just let tokoyami go berserk then use aoyama to brighten the quirk back down). even frigging froppy was using her brain more than the so called tactician of 1-A and I dont see tokage's loss as a real jobbing
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I disagree with people saying Tokage did okay and wasn't a complete jobber. She lost fantastically - her strategy was wrong and her power wasn't just useless, it actively worked against her in the end. Her strategy was wrong, but it was also about the best one she could have made from what she knew going in. When you're dealing with Bakugo, you don't really have room to reassess a failed strategy since he's already wrecking your poo poo. He's the best fighter in the entire first year, the sheer heart attack of students. Tokage set everything up around what should have been the one flaw, bad team cohesion. And then it turned out that was wrong, and Bakugo and co were wrecking everyone's poo poo too fast for the backup plan (retreat, regroup, repeat) to work. Basically, she screwed up, but all things considered, it was more Bakugo's team being That Good than her being that bad.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:Maybe Horikoshi made everyone else suck to make Bakugo look great by comparison. 6d narrative maneuvers over here. Pretty much his mo. Bakugo still way overpushed.
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Flesnolk posted:Pretty much his mo. Bakugo still way overpushed. That’ll change when Bakugo stops moving the manga
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Flesnolk posted:Pretty much his mo. Bakugo still way overpushed. This is his first win since Bakugo vs Deku mark 2 which was preceded by him failing the big hero exam lmao. He's the secondary protagonist I'm sorry the duder's getting an arc.
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Push Uraraka. And Bakugo. Together. “FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT kiss kiss FIGHT”
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DrakePegasus posted:Push Uraraka. And Bakugo. Together. “FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT kiss kiss FIGHT” Only villains do this
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:This is his first win since Bakugo vs Deku mark 2 which was preceded by him failing the big hero exam lmao. Secondary protagonist and the most popular character in the manga, who's been out of the spotlight for quite some time. It's also Bakugo's thing that he wins fights. I'd even put decent odds on that being why his suspension lasted just long enough to miss the Mirio fight. Bakugo can lose at everything that isn't fighting and it works for the narrative. He needs to get shot down so he can grow and because it's funny. But if Bakugo loses his title as the class's combat genius, then he loses a lot of his purpose. He needs to remain something Deku can aspire to just like Deku needs to "get" being a hero better than Bakugo does. If Bakugo stops being a winner, he's no longer serving his purpose.
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SgtSteel91 posted:Only villains do this 'Oh Bakugo! Your giant grenade arms are so... big!' I'M NOT PLAYING WITH MY DOLLS i mean action figures i mean DOLLS AGAIN YOU DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING!
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chiasaur11 posted:Secondary protagonist and the most popular character in the manga, who's been out of the spotlight for quite some time. Also why his failure in the license exam was a failure based on attitude and serving as a hero. Not involved with Gang Orca. And that losing to Deku in the first class fight, Deku was the one broken and beaten while Bakugo was completely fine.
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EponymousMrYar posted:'Oh Bakugo! Your giant grenade arms are so... big!' You mean Funko Pops? (You monster.)
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I think Bakugo touched the ground like one time in the entire fight. His mobility really is insane.
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Eej posted:The whole point is that Bakugou didn't singlehandedly take out the entire team and it was the seamless teamwork that got 1-A the win. The team is basically set up as Bakugou being the offense, Satou as the second line with Sero and Jirou as support. Since Bakugou has the most mobility and the highest fighting skill he ends up being the one taking point and chasing down the other team but it wouldn't have worked without the rest of the team. Satou breaks Bakugou free and secures Bondo as soon as Bakugou takes him down, letting him keep hunting down the rest of the team without having to stop. Jirou and Seto also take down Awase on their own while Bakugou flies overhead again allowing him to keep moving so the other team couldn't hide. Bondo - Held in place by Sato sure, but he was already blown the hell up by Bakugo so he was neutralized anyway. The Bug Guy - Solo'd by Bakugou instantly. Tokage - Her position was found by Sero+Jiro, sure (using Bakugo's grenades), but Bakugo took her out singlehandedly without resistance. It was well put together and infinitely more entertaining than the last two matches so I'm not that mad about it, I just feel like Bakugo's getting way too much credit for teamwork when he took out 3/4 of the team on his own once he got past the Awase trap. It had to happen this way for it to be a snappy 1 chapter sweep, but it would've been cool to see just a bit more teamwork than that. Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, after blowing up Bondo's glue and then Bondo himself and then the Bug Blades Guy after rocket-propelling himself through the air from one side of the arena to the other, maybe Bakugo could've been out of sweat and unable to rocket himself up to Tokage. So instead Sero could throw him up there, if it had to be Bakugou, or maybe that could've been the chapter stinger and we could've got a final chapter where Tokage gets to show off why her quirk is useful and earned her a recommendation spot while the remaining three on Team Bakugo work out some team attacks together to take her down. Then we get an even better showing from the B-squad while not completely invalidating yet another promising female character.
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Jiro told Bakugo where Mantis guy was for him to take him down. The thing about teamwork is that everyone has a role to play. If Bakugo micromanaged Awase then the rest of B would have had an opportunity to regroup. He trusted Jiro and Sero to take him out and so was able to get the jump on Bondo. Then trusting Sato to complete the restraining of Bondo let him get in a position to take advantage of Jiro's surveillance to take out Mantis. By then Sero had worked out where Tokage with his trapping of a piece of her alllowing Bakugo to rain on her parade. They worked together as a well oiled machine. Exactly like how a pro team is supposed to work when their side-kicks are involved. Hell, if Bakugo hadn't rushed back to save Jiro then Sato would have ended up gooped trying to save Jiro and Sero and it all would have fallen apart exactly like what Tokage was expecting. Saving to Win and Winning to Save.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I disagree with people saying Tokage did okay and wasn't a complete jobber. She lost fantastically - her strategy was wrong and her power wasn't just useless, it actively worked against her in the end. The problem is, if we compare to Momo's battle. Tokage was overwhelmed but had no contingency and her teammates weren't able to put up a good struggle themselves. As you say her quirk wasn't extremely useful in combat, and it wound up biting her back in the end. Momo even though she was isolated still managed to send her team some aid at her own risk and used her quirk as a means to slow down her opponent the best she could. The spotlight of the battle was then given to Tokoyami; although it was a moot point because their opponents had Mushroom girl who reinforced the idea that spore based abilities are top-tier. But the other students as well had potent powers as well; namely Manga. In both cases it can be argued that the losing team was going up against someone vastly outside their weight belt which was the major contributing factor to their defeat. But how the leaders adapted to that situation at least presents Momo in a better light as someone capable of making snap decisions and changes under pressure along with her pre-planning. Tokage just folded when bumrushed because she only had one plan and no adaptability which is something that doesn't benefit a hero in a crisis or combat situation which is still the overall goal of these classes and trials. The other thing is that Momo's confidence and analytical ability under pressure are a trait of her character that is being developed, this was Tokage's debut fight with the reader knowing nothing about her outside the hype of being a recommendation student. The combination of her thorough defeat, and verbal fellating of the 1-A team firmly made her out to be a jobber to showcase Bakugou's growth and resolve first and foremost. I still like the chapters themselves, but Tokage wasn't very impressive especially after Juzo managed to stalemate in his previous fight despite going up against two of the most prominent members of Class 1-A.
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Rouncer posted:Jiro told Bakugo where Mantis guy was for him to take him down. I still would have liked the non-Bakugo's to have a more direct role vs the opponents versus just ganging up on one guy mostly off screen or holding down others, but they still got to use their quirks and contribute even if a lot of it was just guiding Bakugou around like an RC car of death. And they didn't look lovely afterwards, so that's a hell of a lot more than half of the 1-A participants before them can say.
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