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Spergin Morlock posted:I would imagine Iran doesn't want the THAAD radar system near their territory. I think that was China's main concern with the deployment in SK. Well, China wasn't really worried about one more modern RADAR (to add to the mountain of naval and ground based RADARs Japan and Korea already had). It was about putting pressure on South Korea.
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Warbadger posted:Well, China wasn't really worried about one more modern RADAR (to add to the mountain of naval and ground based RADARs Japan and Korea already had). It was about putting pressure on South Korea. That makes sense.
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Cat Mattress posted:Putin would love to fill the vacuum if the USA were to actually drop the KSA. I mean that's got to be like 90% of the reason we put up with their poo poo, right?
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Cat Mattress posted:Putin would love to fill the vacuum if the USA were to actually drop the KSA. Would he? He'd become responsible for keeping things calm between them and Iran.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Would he? He'd become responsible for keeping things calm between them and Iran. I strongly doubt that any situation will make Putin become responsible in any way.
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Volkerball posted:Here's a name you don't hear from the mouths of US politicians very often. Yep!    His wife and kids have been living in [my hometown!] Sherbrooke for some time. There's a huge tapestry of Badawi hanging from the facade of the town hall, in front of which are support events every other week (meetup #200 was a month ago, I think?). Badawi got preapproved for immigration should he be released ( ) The local Amnesty Inter chapter has basically become the Official Badawi support staff, making his wife somewhat of a local celebrity. The regional support for his family has been very heartening, yup.
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^^^ Lol that's awesome. Thanks for sharing. In the US she would just get glared at. Absurd Alhazred posted:Would he? He'd become responsible for keeping things calm between them and Iran. Pariah dictators actually tend to stick together through thick and thin more than democratic countries from what I've seen. The US and the west abandoning KSA would be an existential threat to their regime, so they would absolutely find a place in that axis. The KSA/Iran relationship would probably look something like the ~hostility~ between KSA and Israel now.
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Count Roland posted:Why post a tweet with a link, and not just the link? To be fair, Twitter auto-embeds a thumbnail, headline, and subheading. Plus you can click anywhere in the link box to go straight to the linked page.
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Fuschia tude posted:To be fair, Twitter auto-embeds a thumbnail, headline, and subheading. Plus you can click anywhere in the link box to go straight to the linked page. And people on these forums have shown time and time again that they can't even be bothered to look at the date of tweets that are posted, let alone actually click through to the article before forming their opinions so maybe more article posting would help
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Fuschia tude posted:To be fair, Twitter auto-embeds a thumbnail, headline, and subheading. Plus you can click anywhere in the link box to go straight to the linked page. Oh, they don't display for me, I just see a random twitter link and have to click through for the content.
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Count Roland posted:Oh, they don't display for me, I just see a random twitter link and have to click through for the content. Are you using a phone app?
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steinrokkan posted:Are you using a phone app? No, but I browse with a lot of blockers enabled so its probably that.
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Count Roland posted:Oh, they don't display for me, I just see a random twitter link and have to click through for the content. With FF, you have to allow trackers only in private windows for Tweets to embed.
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Macron said the quiet part a little too loud https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/30/macron-saudi-arabia-mbs-conversation-g20-summit-caught-on-mic
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Count Roland posted:Does... does this matter? No foul play suspected, so guy had a heart attack or OD'd on a secret coke problem, or something. Was this guy in particular important? Fifth Fleet is the entirety of US Navy forces in the Middle East.
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Spacewolf posted:Fifth Fleet is the entirety of US Navy forces in the Middle East. Suicide apparently. Also who cares. The guy has a deputy who has stepped in. The only thing which would be a concern is what? An Iranian assassination? To what end? Deserves to be in a mental health thread more than this one. If we find Soleimani ate a bullet I would be a lot more interested. I guess it would also be a lineup of one nation.
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Spacewolf posted:Fifth Fleet is the entirety of US Navy forces in the Middle East. And this guy's death changes this not one bit, someone else fills his position, and whoever is in the position is merely following orders anyway.
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Count Roland posted:and whoever is in the position is merely following orders anyway. This is fishmech-level "correct" but ignores that the sudden death of the NAVCENT commander is still a big deal. When you get to that level of command, personality and GO initiatives become pretty significant.
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mlmp08 posted:This is fishmech-level "correct" but ignores that the sudden death of the NAVCENT commander is still a big deal. When you get to that level of command, personality and GO initiatives become pretty significant. Yeah that's really loving weird for him to just keel over. Even as a suicide it is exceptionally unusual.
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Partly wrt that /\ I wrote up a post recently then accidentally deleted it (cuz I'm super smart) about how the Saudi purchase of missile defense systems isn't in response to a specific threat, but rather is a part of their greater militarization. It's weird actually how quietly Saudi Arabia has become the third largest military spender on the planet (only the US and China spend more). While they've lacked a lot of institutional military knowledge that comes from having an old and experienced officer corps, that's going to change rapidly. They obviously intend to be one of the world's foremost military powers. Of major significance: Saudi Arabia is spending 10% of their GDP on their military, that's 2.5-5x more than any of the other top spenders. They're militarizing at a ridiculously fast rate.
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Spacewolf posted:Qatar is leaving OPEC OPEC is a lot less important than it used to be. Saudi policy over the last several years has been over production to keep prices down, which has been unpopular with other members which has led to much disagreement. As well, the US is now a huge producer of oil and is far less sensitive to pressure from other producers. IMO this just weakens the cartel further.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Partly wrt that /\ I wrote up a post recently then accidentally deleted it (cuz I'm super smart) about how the Saudi purchase of missile defense systems isn't in response to a specific threat, but rather is a part of their greater militarization. I doubt KSA is actually planning on using their military, I think the arms deals are just a tribute payment to the US.
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qkkl posted:I doubt KSA is actually planning on using their military, I think the arms deals are just a tribute payment to the US. Occasionally you have stopped watch posts, this is definitely not one of them. 1) they already are 2) saudi internal rhetoric treats the eventual conflict with Iran/shiite as completely inevitable and this has ramped up a ton in the last 5 years 3) look at how MBS is acting, he knows he's militarily nothing to gently caress with and gives no shits. People like that don't build militaries for nothing 4) 10% of gdp going into military is completely ridiculous, like holy poo poo alarm bells should be going off that they are gearing up for war Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Dec 3, 2018 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Occasionally you have stopped watch posts, this is definitely not one of them. 10% gdp towards military. Jesus you need a pretty sizeable acquisition to hit roi on that
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It's pretty clear the order in which they are planning on acquiring new territories. Ironically the last precedent in the region for militarizing aggressively and rapidly off of dwindling oil money was Iraq under Saddam in the lead up to the Iraq vs Iran war, which for the unaware was a fantastically violent and brutal conflict. So much so that it hosed with the psyche of both involved countries in a huge way even decades later.
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qkkl posted:I doubt KSA is actually planning on using their military, I think the arms deals are just a tribute payment to the US. Yeah never mind their years long war in Yemen? They already sent APCs into Bahrain during the Arab Spring. They could certainly do that again. And Saudi tanks rolling into Qatar I think would surprise nobody at this point.
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Ok now I see it. The US wants to go to war with Iran but they don't want a Vietnam situation, so they made a deal with KSA where KSA does most of the fighting with US support. In exchange for playing a big role in the war against Iran KSA will get to annex all of Iran, but will have to keep oil prices stable to benefit the US.
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qkkl posted:Ok now I see it. The US wants to go to war with Iran but they don't want a Vietnam situation, so they made a deal with KSA where KSA does most of the fighting with US support. In exchange for playing a big role in the war against Iran KSA will get to annex all of Iran, but will have to keep oil prices stable to benefit the US. tom clancy is rolling in his grave
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qkkl posted:Ok now I see it. The US wants to go to war with Iran but they don't want a Vietnam situation, so they made a deal with KSA where KSA does most of the fighting with US support. In exchange for playing a big role in the war against Iran KSA will get to annex all of Iran, but will have to keep oil prices stable to benefit the US. How much weed do you smoke when you wake up on a daily basis? Seems like KSA wants to become a much more wignificant military force in the region to cajole their gulf state cousins into following lockstep with their other foreign policy goals, which includes the degredation / containment of Iran. This war in Yemen is unpalatable to almost everyone but is still being supported by the U.S military. I doubt the general populace of the United States would support a direct confrontation with Iran or even significant support for the KSA against Iran unless the KSA was paying for the assistance, and even then it's only dying Hawks that want that kind of confrontation. Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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qkkl posted:Ok now I see it. The US wants to go to war with Iran but they don't want a Vietnam situation, so they made a deal with KSA where KSA does most of the fighting with US support. In exchange for playing a big role in the war against Iran KSA will get to annex all of Iran, but will have to keep oil prices stable to benefit the US. User was sued by tom clancy
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