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Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



MiniatureMarket.com has a bunch of Legion stuff on sale today. I told myself I wasn't going to buy more until I painted what I already had, but I could't pass up stuff that cheap, even with shipping.

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smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
Yeah, I'm trying to stop myself from buying six boxes of Snowtroopers for a Hoth themed list

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Sorry :smith:

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


OB_Juan posted:

Is the airspeeder not big enough? The side of an AT-ST?

I guess you could enjo-jo the side of a terrain piece, like a building or something.

Would a Star Wars Jo-Jo have a Stand named after in-universe music?

Like just a dude yelling CANTINA SONG at a sith or whatever, followed by midi-midi-midi-midi-midi, and the sith's face getting caved in.

That’s true. I could get an airspeeder from MM, only $9 right now. I was saving the ATST to be something more Sabine-like but I think JoJo part 4 is pretty much analogous to sabine’s style.

HebrewMagic
Jul 19, 2012

Police Assault In Progress
My partner bought the starter kit for this on Black Friday for us, what do I need to get my hands on to get our forces up to proper size? I recall getting the 40k starter set in 7th and that was a few units short to begin with, so I'm just assuming going in here it's the same way.

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

HebrewMagic posted:

My partner bought the starter kit for this on Black Friday for us, what do I need to get my hands on to get our forces up to proper size? I recall getting the 40k starter set in 7th and that was a few units short to begin with, so I'm just assuming going in here it's the same way.

The boring answer is probably a second starter set. Two more sets of stormtroopers and rebel troopers is good since you need a minimum of 3 corps units, and fielding around 4 of either of those "basic" units is a good idea most of the time, particularly with rebels. It'll also make it so you don't have to share rulers or movement tools, you'll have a good amount of dice since some attack/defense dice pools can get pretty big, and an extra copy of Luke and Vader with their command cards is good since they're not stand alone models in case either of you want to dip into both factions independently and have your own personal versions of those guys.

Regardless of whether you want to go ahead and do that, the big vehicles on either side eat up a bunch of points and are ok power-wise; the AT-ST moreso than the airspeeder. They're both fun to put on the table even if they are a bit over costed. My lists tend to gravitate towards supplementing 3-4 of the stormtroopers/rebel troopers with 1-2 of their respective closer range corp unit counterparts, so a really good choice is at least one box of snowtroopers and fleet troopers. A box of scout troopers and rebel commandos are also a good buy because they are set up such that one box can be fielded as a two model sniper team and a separate 4-5 model unit.

Basically just look at a list builder and go with the mentality of getting around 4 corp units for each side and then fill it up with whatever you think is cool. So far everything released is viable, with the slight exception being the aforementioned heavy vehicles being underwhelming for their points cost. So if another starter isn't appealing, a box each of snowtroopers/fleet troopers would get your your minimum 3 corps units and a little more variety within that unit type, scout troopers/rebel commandos would get you two solid units out of one box each, and then from there you could buy a second commander for each side, the emplacement trooper gun turrets, go crazy with upgrades, or whatever you want to cover the last ~100 points.

xutech
Mar 4, 2011

EIIST

StuG Jeebus posted:

Yeah, I'm trying to stop myself from buying six boxes of Snowtroopers for a Hoth themed list

Imagine what snowtroopers are like next to royal guard.. I have flamethrower snowtroopers next to royal guard...move move flame move move chop.

Hellburger99
Jan 24, 2006

"I don't like that mooch...
or her pooch!
"

HebrewMagic posted:

My partner bought the starter kit for this on Black Friday for us, what do I need to get my hands on to get our forces up to proper size? I recall getting the 40k starter set in 7th and that was a few units short to begin with, so I'm just assuming going in here it's the same way.

A second core is a good way to go, especially if you're trying to build both armies simultaneously. It gives you two more corp and support units for both sides and let's you play a full-sized game and gives you an idea for how it plays before you start investing in different units. Even at full retail price you're getting a good deal. One of the really nice things about this game is that you will always need to have 3 core units in an army, so the standard rebel/imperial troops will (supposedly) never go out of style. And while the only two other options for basic corps units (fleet troops and snowtroopers) are handy, they seem more suited to specialized placement in lists; you wouldn't want to field 6 whole units of them.

After that, I recommend Leia and Veers as a second commander unit for each respective side. To be fair, I've bought way more than I've played, but in my local area Leia/Luke lists are still popular, and Veers plus a ton of troops and bikes can be very effective. If you get another core, I don't recommend buying a 3rd ATRT like I did, though; two is more than enough. Haven't tried more than two bikes, either, but I feel like even 2 is maybe too much for most lists.

Hellburger99 fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Dec 3, 2018

HebrewMagic
Jul 19, 2012

Police Assault In Progress
How does the AT-ST fare? I think I remember hearing early in the game's life that it was incredibly costly for what it brought to the team, or something, but the model calls to me.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Its overpriced for what it does. It cant take or hold objectives, and it cant really go out hunting units either since it's really awkward to use around your own troops and maneuver around dense terrain. you just kind of stick it where it can hopefully get decent map coverage and hope it's enough of a deterrent to funnel enemy troops into other areas.(it wont be) Most people will just straight up ignore it though since it doesn't put out enough pressure to warrant putting in the effort to kill it.

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe
Krennic and Deathtroopers on the way:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/12/3/emerging-darkness/

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?




'Twas the chalk bet after Erso and Pathfinders. Cool stuff.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
So Krennics thing is to make your activations less unpredictable? Sounds useful.

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe

Owlbear Camus posted:

'Twas the chalk bet after Erso and Pathfinders. Cool stuff.

Hoping the Rogue One Assault Tank makes it too. The Hasbro one is getting cheaper, but I still would like one in scale.

... And all the Kenner/Hasbro mini-rigs reworked into Legion.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Failson posted:

Hoping the Rogue One Assault Tank makes it too. The Hasbro one is getting cheaper, but I still would like one in scale.

... And all the Kenner/Hasbro mini-rigs reworked into Legion.

If they fail you, I picked up the Imperial Terrain one and it's quite nice.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
Going for enfys nest, really like her design

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



https://t.co/WSe9V9J7VP

Occupier tank. :black101:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/1/14/rebel-ingenuity/

Lol luke skywalkers family sedan turned into a technical to fight in the toyota wars.


E: seriously, this gives me vibes of Kenner running out of screen canon content and making stuff like this:

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jan 14, 2019

OB_Juan
Nov 24, 2004

Not every day is a good day.


Dinosaur Gum
Speaking of...

Heavy Hitter


Rebel Ingenuity

e;fb

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe

Owlbear Camus posted:

https://t.co/WSe9V9J7VP

Occupier tank. :black101:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/1/14/rebel-ingenuity/

Lol luke skywalkers family sedan turned into a technical to fight in the toyota wars.


E: seriously, this gives me vibes of Kenner running out of screen canon content and making stuff like this:


Not kidding, I want all of those in this game (and the ROTJ-era ones).

On the new stuff: I keep forgetting that the flatbed truck from Rogue One is 1) A tank, and 2) isn't a hover-vehicle.

Will probably get the landspeeder set, and kitbash up a different vehicle for the guns and figures. Use the speeder as scenery.

head58
Apr 1, 2013

They really don’t have many rebel ground vehicles in the OT or in Rebels, do they? Is there a Tactical Combat Forklift they can get or something?

The Rebels should have a “looted” rule like Orks in 40k. They can take any Imperial vehicle, but it’s about 10% shittier (and cheaper).

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe

head58 posted:

They really don’t have many rebel ground vehicles in the OT or in Rebels, do they? Is there a Tactical Combat Forklift they can get or something?

The Rebels should have a “looted” rule like Orks in 40k. They can take any Imperial vehicle, but it’s about 10% shittier (and cheaper).

Kinda, they had carts running around: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rebel_personnel_carrier

That's what I was thinking of, and I agree, give them "looted wagon" rules.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Yeah it would be thematic, drive some kit sales, and create some cool conversion opportunities.

Chewbacca poppin' the ATST hatch and such.

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.
Weren't stolen vehicules a trap, with the exception of a few entries?

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



I get that they want to be thematic, but it seems like the rules don't support what they're trying to do. I haven't played for a while, so feel free to correct my potential misconceptions.
Thematically, The Empire marches across the field, with heavy armor and overwhelming firepower. So far so good. Legion has armored troops and lots of big guns.
Rebels are supposed to be a rag-tag force of guerrilla fighters using hit and run tactics and sabotage. It's hard to pull that off in a table-top war game. some of the units work well for that, but it seems like the base Rebel troops are at their most effective when you can plant them behind cover and never move them. I would think you'd want to create a system that rewards positioning and maneuvering.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
Re: the speeder, am I the only one who's annoyed about that gun being mounted directly in front of the driver instead of on the passenger side where it obviously belongs?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
As a rebel player I am down to play space Bundys seizing the imperial ewok preserve.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



StuG Jeebus posted:

Re: the speeder, am I the only one who's annoyed about that gun being mounted directly in front of the driver instead of on the passenger side where it obviously belongs?

I mean if you're going to do a Star Toyoda Wars technical, they should just do like a repeating blaster on a pintle mount where the passenger seat would be ripped out with the gunner leaning on the droid's back seat.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
Now I want to drop fugly halftrack imperials and collect Rebels :h:

Just kidding I'll buy a speeder anyway, not like I'll ever play a game

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

New speeder doesn't matter. The best speeder will always be the snow speeder (at least aesthetically).

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



I am glad Runewars and Star Wars both have a very similar release structure. I think FFG missed a chance to stand out by not making it an asymmetric game of just Nazis VS Terrorists. Would anyone here have any interest in the game if it wasn't star wars?

I just want my Battle Droids unit.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
Were you unsatisfied with the response this post got in the death thread? It's coming off a little aggressive. Plenty of games have been successful w/o a pre-established universe attached. I think Legion's initiative cardplay and action system are interesting enough to make it stand out even if I have to admit that I'd ultimately rather play X-wing or Guildball.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Owlbear Camus posted:

https://t.co/WSe9V9J7VP

Occupier tank. :black101:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/1/14/rebel-ingenuity/

Lol luke skywalkers family sedan turned into a technical to fight in the toyota wars.


E: seriously, this gives me vibes of Kenner running out of screen canon content and making stuff like this:



I think stuff like WW1 or early WW2 tanks and tankettes would be interesting. Moisture farmers turning their little tractors track-speeders into weapons of war. :getin:

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Rebel thing might be ok if they let the gunner guys shoot in any direction but if they're limited to the front arc only with a speed 2 + compulsory move this thing is gonna be garbo for the same reason the AT-ST is. The fact that you can only put in single unit troopers kinda blows. Luke really doesn't need a 75point ride when he has double move and force jump.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
The imperial one is just gonna be a Snowtrooper delivery system if the theoretical Disembark counts as a Move, and they can Aim disembark, shoot, or just disembark move move, it will be good. Maybe even Vader/Palp would be keen to hitch a ride.

It also makes order token manipulation interesting, as you'll sometimes want the tank to go first, other times the troopers.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I'm focusing mostly on Johnny Rebs and will catch up on Imps at a later date. Picked up the bases and one thing of specialists. Bases look dope and I know a quick weathering trick that should make them pop.

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe

Owlbear Camus posted:

I'm focusing mostly on Johnny Rebs and will catch up on Imps at a later date. Picked up the bases and one thing of specialists. Bases look dope and I know a quick weathering trick that should make them pop.

Wait, the bases are finally out? Hooray, I thought those were never going to make it.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Core sets are 56 bucks on Amazon r/n.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I haven't played in a long while.

I own 2 AT-RTs, 3 Rebel Troops, 2 Fleet Troops and 1x of everything else. What is a dece build?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?





"You always say that. I asked what you thought of the soup in the Officer's mess and it was 'it's a trap!'"

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/2/6/on-the-hunt/

Sabine and Bossk operatives.




Sabine is whatever, I'd rather have more film canon dudes-- literally anyone from Rogue One would be great. I do like the modelling touch of being able to do her with or without bucket.

Bossk... I'm with Admiral Piet on this one. Bossk is cool ectothermic duder, but maybe some of the Imperial operatives could be, y'know Imperial?

Do a pre-face turn Agent Kallus, or dip into your own lore and give us Blaise.

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