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VH4Ever posted:Yeah I'm a cynic. Give it enough time, people forget and thus forgive. The world he built in his head where his amazing leadership was making everyone love him and makes it so he's winning all the time just had a head on collision with reality. I think it is finally starting to sink in just how much he has been protected by the house. For the first time in a long time (perhaps ever) people around Trump is telling him "Yeah the NY AG is going to rip Trump Inc to bits, every weakness you've hidden over the years will be drug into the light for people to laugh at, and your kids are very likely going to go to jail. Oh and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop it." He's not exactly taking it well. Cat:  Shifty Pony fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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Shifty Pony posted:The world he built in his head where his amazing leadership was making everyone love him and makes it so he's winning all the time just had a head on collision with reality. I think it is finally starting to sink in just how much he has been protected by the house. yeah. he is hosed. his company is built on lies and bullshit and will be torn down. at least 2 of his kids are screwed if the mueller show decides they are and trump will probably get impeached, even if he doesn't get convicted(gently caress if i know but no) the NY state will gently caress his poo poo up when he gets tossed from office. id say he has gotten worse since manafort and cohen first got convicted.
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theblackw0lf posted:Does anyone remember what the coverage was like when Nixon died? NYT posted:The nation's secular leader, President Clinton, and the closest thing the country has to a national religious leader, the Rev. Billy Graham, came to Yorba Linda to preside at the service, as if to signify a national readiness to let bygones by bygones -- if not to forget Watergate, which would be impossible, then to set it in the context of the accomplishments that also marked the Nixon years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI2kShWMaUA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV0C_dBdKcg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8-gVnPEXTM
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FronzelNeekburm posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI2kShWMaUA nixon much like W was smart enough to repaint his legacy and have friends to help do that. they did it in different ways(nixon through charisma and wonkery and W through charity) it sucks but i take joy in knowing trump isn't smart enough to pull that poo poo off.
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Dec 2, 2018 17:13
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Dapper_Swindler posted:nixon much like W was smart enough to repaint his legacy and have friends to help do that. they did it in different ways(nixon through charisma and wonkery and W through charity) it sucks but i take joy in knowing trump isn't smart enough to pull that poo poo off. He'll be 74.5 when he leaves office at the absolute minimum. He simply wont have time.
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Shifty Pony posted:The world he built in his head where his amazing leadership was making everyone love him and makes it so he's winning all the time just had a head on collision with reality. I think it is finally starting to sink in just how much he has been protected by the house. I mean, he is human after all, meaning he's flesh and blood and fallible. Honestly, the cold hearted part of me does hope that like stress and doubt are now finally super-aging him in the way we've seen presidents aged by this job, and that finally on some level his own reality is caving in because, these are the times that presidents with vision and some sort of fortitude retreat a bit and regroup to fight a new day. He just does NOT have the constitution for that and never did. He'll never be removed from office via impeachment, and won't be led away in cuffs. We made that choice long ago, we don't jail presidents no matter what they do. But knowing that his children won't be able to live an opulent life stolen off the backs of the suckers their dad grifted, and that some of them may see the inside of prison cells (Mueller willing), that might be enough for me. Not enough for society and the damage they've done but it's probably the best we'll get under the system we have. It's unusual enough for someone that rich to be torn down in such a way so remarkable for that reason if indeed it does happen.
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hiddenmovement posted:He'll be 74.5 when he leaves office at the absolute minimum. He simply wont have time. its not even that. its that he is stupid rear end in a top hat who can't be a social chameleon and pretend to care about others or have positive charisma. nixon and W did have that.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:its not even that. its that he is stupid rear end in a top hat who can't be a social chameleon and pretend to care about others or have positive charisma. nixon and W did have that. There's a tiny, almost-dead part of me that really, really tries to find the best in people, and I just can't with him. Like the man has zero positive qualities, which in a way is kind of amazing.
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SocketWrench posted:An endless line of people being held back by the cops so they can't physically poo poo on his headstone Donald will finally get his wall, around his grave.
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He doesn't need to rehab himself, all it takes is a worse person to come along, We'll be in 20 years with some actual member of some kinda neo nazi party as the republican front-runner and Michelle Obama will say she and Donald were actually secret besties.
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VH4Ever posted:I mean, he is human after all, meaning he's flesh and blood and fallible. Honestly, the cold hearted part of me does hope that like stress and doubt are now finally super-aging him in the way we've seen presidents aged by this job, and that finally on some level his own reality is caving in because, these are the times that presidents with vision and some sort of fortitude retreat a bit and regroup to fight a new day. He just does NOT have the constitution for that and never did. A very warming fact - the back taxes and fines owed to NY state from the tax frauds exposed by The NY Times would roughly equal the appraised value of Trump Tower.
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Shifty Pony posted:A very warming fact - the back taxes and fines owed to NY state from the tax frauds exposed by The NY Times would roughly equal the appraised value of Trump Tower. I hope Trump tower gets turned into low-income housing
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Crow Jane posted:There's a tiny, almost-dead part of me that really, really tries to find the best in people, and I just can't with him. Like the man has zero positive qualities, which in a way is kind of amazing. Maybe it's just because I'm sad but I've always seen him as someone who could have been good, but instead is a petty little man and insecure, likely as a result of his upbringing. This leads him to do wicked things. He has a lot of qualities that, if he were a good person fundamentally, would make him extremely popular with everyone. Instead, I think he's a scared and angry little man. I contrast him with Mike Pence. I believe Mike Pence is a deeply, fundamentally wicked man, and far more evil than Trump.
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Shifty Pony posted:A very warming fact - the back taxes and fines owed to NY state from the tax frauds exposed by The NY Times would roughly equal the appraised value of Trump Tower. Him spending his post-presidency babbling in a wheelchair, sitting forgotten in the middle of an indigent elder care facility like Hector Salamanca in Breaking Bad, well, that would be karmic justice.
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FronzelNeekburm posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI2kShWMaUA All I remember is it was a friday night, my family was watching TGIF, and when the news broke that he died my dad immediately went to the fridge and popped a beer in celebration.
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Crow Jane posted:I hope Trump tower gets turned into low-income housing I was going to say it should be a dog park with Trump-head shaped hydrants, but your idea is better.
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Mineaiki posted:Maybe it's just because I'm sad but I've always seen him as someone who could have been good, but instead is a petty little man and insecure, likely as a result of his upbringing. This leads him to do wicked things. He has a lot of qualities that, if he were a good person fundamentally, would make him extremely popular with everyone. Instead, I think he's a scared and angry little man. I forgot the article, but; “Trump is what he is, and that’s pathetic. Pence is who he has chosen to be, and that’s terrifying.” I disagree with ya, though. All of Trump’s qualities which are not nakedly evil or malicious are such that they only can facilitate those that are. Talking about Trump as though he might have been other than a narcissistic bully is like talking about water that might not be wet.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I forgot the article, but; There's just something so... incurious, I guess? about him that I find incredibly revolting and can't see past. Like not only is he ignorant, he sees that ignorance as a mark of character, and it just goes against everything I value in people.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I forgot the article, but; Oh yeah, I should say I still think Trump is a bad dude, and all of his "not evil" flaws definitely make him evil. His desperate need for approval leading to him tear-gassing children at the border so the CHUDs will like him is a great example. Pence is definitely more in control, more well-rounded, more measured and considered. And just deeply, deeply cruel. I think the big difference is that I kind of don't feel like Trump hates anyone, I think he just doesn't really care, or refuses to recognize that his actions are hurting people who aren't themselves bad. Pence hates people. Like a lot of people, for no good reason and he knows it.
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King of Solomon posted:https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1069256897251950592 Too true. I handle benefits for my company, and as a result I'm very knowledgeable about what all the different numbers and options mean, but I STILL couldn't tell you why you should go with, say, Blue Shield instead of Sharp, or Kaiser, or whatever. Does one provide better services in particular areas? Why are the prices different between the companies for essentially the same care? gently caress if I know.
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theblackw0lf posted:Does anyone remember what the coverage was like when Nixon died?  it....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8
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Think about the gall of someone like Netanyahu. Isn't this like the third corruption related charge this year? And he just waved it away like, "yeah, the police always do this, now I'm just gonna get on with my day."
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VH4Ever posted:I mean, he is human after all, meaning he's flesh and blood and fallible. Honestly, the cold hearted part of me does hope that like stress and doubt are now finally super-aging him in the way we've seen presidents aged by this job, and that finally on some level his own reality is caving in because, these are the times that presidents with vision and some sort of fortitude retreat a bit and regroup to fight a new day. He just does NOT have the constitution for that and never did. It's funny to talk about but you know Trump and his dumb kids will die rich and never ever see the inside of a cell, right? There's a zero percent chance.
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1glitch0 posted:It's funny to talk about but you know Trump and his dumb kids will die rich and never ever see the inside of a cell, right? There's a zero percent chance. Everything is impossible, until it isn't.
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1glitch0 posted:It's funny to talk about but you know Trump and his dumb kids will die rich and never ever see the inside of a cell, right? There's a zero percent chance. So you're saying kush will go to jail
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:I wish I had the ability to dunk on morons like she does, I really do. She’s not really that great a ‘dunker’. Republicans are hiding behind a rock but also throwing it? That doesn’t make sense.
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Grapplejack posted:The revolution can only happen if China kills all the poors in Western countries; shipping fentanyl to first world countries is ethically and morally the right move. This legitimately is a side benefit of China chemical manufacturing sectors. Not to be as humorous or flippant as the above poster, but getting Americans addicted to and or killing them is a net positive for China from a zero sum international relations perspective. Both the United States and China are seen to be in competition to be the world's leading economy (regardless of the GDP difference) and if China can kill off enough Americans it can have wide ranging effects. I'm not super read into this but I have heard discussed that the resources being allocated to fight the opioid crisis could be better spent elsewhere. Scientific/pharmaceutical efforts and research are being wasted to provide answers , law enforcement and DEA have to do address it instead of dealing with other issues, tax dollars go to social programs to answer the drug epidemic instead of other social safety nets, not to mention the human cost of dead Americans. Each of those dead people have lost potential and could have done ~something~ with their lives. The sort of grandiose claim anti abortionists like to make about killing the baby that cures cancer sort of applies. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Waroduce posted:This legitimately is a side benefit of China chemical manufacturing sectors. Not to be as humorous or flippant as the above poster, but getting Americans addicted to and or killing them is a net positive for China from a zero sum international relations perspective. Both the United States and China are seen to be in competition to be the world's leading economy (regardless of the GDP difference) and if China can kill off enough Americans it can have wide ranging effects. I'm not super read into this but I have heard discussed that the resources being allocated to fight the opioid crisis could be better spent elsewhere. Scientific/pharmaceutical efforts and research are being wasted to provide answers , law enforcement and DEA have to do address it instead of dealing with other issues, tax dollars go to social programs to answer the drug epidemic instead of other social safety nets, not to mention the human cost of dead Americans. Each of those dead people have lost potential and could have done ~something~ with their lives. The sort of grandiose claim anti abortionists like to make about killing the baby that cures cancer sort of applies. This is kind of an insane clash of civilizations way of viewing the world. I doubt China is out there chortling and rubbing their hands together over the opioid crisis.
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Crow Jane posted:There's a tiny, almost-dead part of me that really, really tries to find the best in people, and I just can't with him. Like the man has zero positive qualities, which in a way is kind of amazing. yeah it;s impossible to find anything good about him - he's the perfect product of his horrible father.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:its not even that. its that he is stupid rear end in a top hat who can't be a social chameleon and pretend to care about others or have positive charisma. nixon and W did have that. Trump's M.O. was to have the absolute largest amount of "gently caress You" money in the world and to bank on everyone to be greedy enough to grovel to him for it so he'd never have to change. He never reached it, though his PR stunts and structuring convinced the public that he was that rich. The people with real "gently caress You" money, the ones he desperately wanted the attention and adulation of, saw right through it. He'll probably try to go back to throwing money at politicians and boasting about himself after leaving office, but the illusion will be so totally broken no one will buy it. He'll be stumping to Holiday Inn conference rooms half filled with the few remaining true believers he has left for the most unsatisfying narcissistic attention hit of his life. His children will most likely cheap out on his funeral and try to profit off his Presidential Library when it gets transferred to the National Archives.
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