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Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

CommieGIR posted:

I wish Jacques Cousteau was still alive :(

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Coldwar timewarp
May 8, 2007



Icon Of Sin posted:

Steve Irwin, too. Though his son is a spitting image of him, he’s also only 14 (but still publishing gorgeous photos left and right).

Lol. Some things are better kept to ones self.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

mlmp08 posted:

That would make him potentially the highest ranking active (i.e. not retired) officer to commit suicide I can think of. MG Rossi was a day away from his third star when he took his own life.

Admiral Boorda was the CNO when he killed himself.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Coldwar timewarp posted:

Lol. Some things are better kept to ones self.

You dummy



quote:

Robert Irwin is an award winning nature photographer and wildlife warrior who travels the world in search of incredible images of wildlife and wild places that have inspired many.

Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Dec 2, 2018

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


It did sound odd without research if he was the model.

Which I wasn’t gonna do.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
His daughter is 20 and is doing the naturalist thing too.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


my kinda ape posted:

His daughter is 20 and is doing the naturalist thing too.

Bindi was on dancing with the stars?

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
Lol ^

AOC is on a tear today about insurance

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
I'm sure her critics will have some nuanced counterpoints, such as she is a woman and not white, therefore stupid

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


mlmp08 posted:

That would make him potentially the highest ranking active (i.e. not retired) officer to commit suicide I can think of. MG Rossi was a day away from his third star when he took his own life.


Close,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Michael_Boorda

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Duzzy Funlop posted:

If Idris Elba turns out to be a creepy sex offender that abused his position, I might lock myself into my room and throw a temper tantrum. Like, 13 year-old learning the Backstreet Boys dissolved temper tantrum.

if idris elba needs to be creepy in order to smash then something is wrong with the world and the false vacuum is about to pop so start doing coke

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Syrian Lannister posted:

Lol ^

AOC is on a tear today about insurance

Think it was yesterday where she tweeted about paying more for insurance when she was a waitress than she pays as a congressional representative. That was kinda depressing because I just can't get mad about it at the moment.

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
https://twitter.com/ocasio2018/status/1069255429593735168?s=21

https://twitter.com/ocasio2018/status/1069256897251950592?s=21

https://twitter.com/ocasio2018/status/1069268454455341056?s=21

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

maffew buildings posted:

I'm sure her critics will have some nuanced counterpoints, such as she is a woman and not white, therefore stupid

She's pretty alright. Pretty loving stupid.

So did she find out about the health insurance thing when she was inaugurated and taking over all three chambers of Congress...no two...chambers of government...is she gonna be writing a bill...or what?

But sure, y'all keep proselytizing someone who doesn't even have a 4th grade social studies understanding of the position she was elected for. Please

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orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Tide posted:

She's pretty alright. Pretty loving stupid.

So did she find out about the health insurance thing when she was inaugurated and taking over all three chambers of Congress...no two...chambers of government...is she gonna be writing a bill...or what?

But sure, y'all keep proselytizing someone who doesn't even have a 4th grade social studies understanding of the position she was elected for. Please

Source your quotes

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
Source your quotes

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Can someone add Pods to his name?

With a picture of Gronk.

bengy81
May 8, 2010
Sounds almost like every dude I work with when they start complaining about her, or all the fox news talking points on her.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


At this point I'm beginning to suspect that there's a sexual motive to these guys's lining up to get dunked on by her

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

aphid_licker posted:

At this point I'm beginning to suspect that there's a sexual motive to these guys's lining up to get dunked on by her

This is what I posted days/weeks ago. It is not her positions but that she’s an attractive young woman.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Tide posted:

She's pretty alright. Pretty loving stupid.

So did she find out about the health insurance thing when she was inaugurated and taking over all three chambers of Congress...no two...chambers of government...is she gonna be writing a bill...or what?

But sure, y'all keep proselytizing someone who doesn't even have a 4th grade social studies understanding of the position she was elected for. Please

2/10

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017

whoa get a load of this catty three olives bitch!

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017
histrionics much!?!?!

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

orange juche posted:

Source your quotes

That dude went on a tear about Haitian taxi drivers, he's not joking.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017

Milo and POTUS posted:

That dude went on a tear about Haitian taxi drivers, he's not joking.

oh yeah, I wonder why AOC bothers him so much then :thunk:

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Show us on the doll where the pretty lady refused to touch you.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

I mean this is a mil/vet forum and he sounds like every vet on my fb feed that drank all the koolaid and are sharing clips of AOC “self owning!”

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Does anyone know how much it would actually cost to implement Medicare for all? It’s gotta be in the trillions. Then again so is the F-35 program when it’s all said and done. 1.5 trillion or so for the F-35. But that’s spread over the next 50 or so years.

I’m not against UHC. I’m just curious what it would cost. Something tells me it could be afforded if we had the National will for it.

I’ve always been a fan of passing laws and regulations that make health insurance not for profit, and heavily (completely, probably.) subsidize the costs for people with less or no income and charge reasonable prices for everyone else.

I don’t know how the gently caress you can reform Medicine costs from the pharmaceutical industry.

There’s so many facets to the healthcare problem, I have the hardest time imagining congress fixing healthcare in my lifetime. My bet is that it’ll be a lot like weed is now, some states have good reasonable laws and regulations, others are bullshit. So red states will probably continue to shoot themselves in the foot and blue states will have different laws and access to healthcare.

Just look at how hard it was to get the ACA through a Dem controlled congress and White House. How in the wide world of gently caress are we ever gonna have universal healthcare?

I wish AOC the best of luck in congress, she’ll hopefully go on to do really good things. Getting Medicare for all, however, or any UHC proposal for that matter seems impossible.

Would love to be proven completely wrong by congress, but who are we kidding?

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I mean even a Koch-funded study found that M4A would be cheaper than the system we have now

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Does anyone know how much it would actually cost to implement Medicare for all? It’s gotta be in the trillions. Then again so is the F-35 program when it’s all said and done. 1.5 trillion or so for the F-35. But that’s spread over the next 50 or so years.

I’m not against UHC. I’m just curious what it would cost. Something tells me it could be afforded if we had the National will for it.

I’ve always been a fan of passing laws and regulations that make health insurance not for profit, and heavily (completely, probably.) subsidize the costs for people with less or no income and charge reasonable prices for everyone else.

I don’t know how the gently caress you can reform Medicine costs from the pharmaceutical industry.

There’s so many facets to the healthcare problem, I have the hardest time imagining picturing congress fixing healthcare in my lifetime. My bet is that it’ll be a lot like weed is now, some states have good reasonable laws and regulations, others are bullshit. So red states will probably continue to shoot themselves in the foot and blue states will have different laws and access to healthcare.

Just look at how hard it was to get the ACA through a Dem controlled congress and White House. How in the wide world of gently caress are we ever gonna have universal healthcare?

I wish AOC the best of luck in congress, she’ll hopefully go on to do really good things. Getting Medicare for all, however, or any UHC proposal for that matter seems impossible.

Would love to be proven completely wrong by congress, but who are we kidding?

IIRC a libertarian thinktank did the math recently and Fox and all the conservative sites were using their study to say "UHC will cost $XX trillion!!!" while neglecting to say that even according to the libertarians it would save an enormous amount of money when compared to keeping our current system. So yeah it's gonna cost a loving enormous amount of money but keeping our current system is going to cost that x2-3 while bankrupting tons of people or just letting them die.

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017
the only reason it's not on the table is some people would be slightly less rich if M4A was passed. thats it.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I think on the low end there was an estimate that was around 1.3t, high end around 3.2t over 10 years. Depends on who is conducting the study and what changes come along with it - IIRC the high end estimate was just 'boom, everyone has Medicare' with no corresponding reforms.

Any realistic M4A package is going to have pharma reform baked in to offset costs along with a significant amount of tax hikes for the ultra wealthy. Make no mistake, it's gonna be expensive, but nothing outrageous compared to other poo poo we've spent money on.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Medicare doesn't cover dental. Not sure where she's getting that from.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

my kinda ape posted:

So yeah it's gonna cost a loving enormous amount of money but keeping our current system is going to cost that x2-3 while bankrupting tons of people or just letting them die.

a glaring detail people like to ignore

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

psydude posted:

Medicare doesn't cover dental. Not sure where she's getting that from.

She's saying it should.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

John F. Kennedy posted:

We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.

I keep this in mind when people talk about how loving hard something is for the government to accomplish.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Does anyone know how much it would actually cost to implement Medicare for all? It’s gotta be in the trillions. Then again so is the F-35 program when it’s all said and done. 1.5 trillion or so for the F-35. But that’s spread over the next 50 or so years.

True, but who the gently caress benefits from an F35 when its all said and done? I feel we'd get more economic utility out of 1.5 trillion given to hospitals to treat poors than 1.5 trillion given to Boeing.

edit: Probably get more economic utility out of just giving everyone in this forum a piece of 1.5 trillion and tell us to have fun with it.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 2, 2018

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

psydude posted:

Medicare doesn't cover dental. Not sure where she's getting that from.

It should considering the terrible dental care available in this country.

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psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Vasudus posted:

She's saying it should.

TBF, it's the first time I've heard it brought up, since most people are just talking about extending the current Medicare program to cover people under retirement age. Not that it's a bad idea, but it would completely throw any cost projections out the window.

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