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Tide posted:She's pretty alright. Pretty loving stupid. lol you are complaining about a congressperson communicating the frustrations of her constituency and then calling her stupid. That's some primo retardation. She ran on the position of medicare for all, this is her following through. Please
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We could probably use some kind of Universal program for dental as well. Too many people can’t afford dental care and the outcomes can be awful.
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Dec 2, 2018 21:37
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Just present M4A as a way to make sure our future Holy Christian Soldiers, who never take a knee, are fit and healthy growing up and so are the breeders who will be caring for them.
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Dec 2, 2018 21:40
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Defenestrategy posted:True, but who the gently caress benefits from an F35 when its all said and done? I feel we'd get more economic utility out of 1.5 trillion given to hospitals to treat poors than 1.5 trillion given to Boeing. Suddenly I don't give a poo poo about the poor.
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Dec 2, 2018 21:42
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Defenestrategy posted:True, but who the gently caress benefits from an F35 when its all said and done? I feel we'd get more economic utility out of 1.5 trillion given to hospitals to treat poors than 1.5 trillion given to Boeing. I never worked with the F-35, I retired before it finished testing, so I’m only familiar with its capabilities from news reports and wikipedia. So I can’t comment on benefits outside of the normal talking points you’d see. Hell, even if I did know I’m guessing it’d still all be classified.
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Dec 2, 2018 21:43
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hey just incase it wasn't clear Tide really is that stupid so just move on
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:I never worked with the F-35, I retired before it finished testing, so I’m only familiar with its capabilities from news reports and wikipedia. So I can’t comment on benefits outside of the normal talking points you’d see. Hell, even if I did know I’m guessing it’d still all be classified. there is no economic utility of the f35 for like 99.9999999% of people in the USA classified or not
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:We could probably use some kind of Universal program for dental as well. Too many people can’t afford dental care and the outcomes can be awful. I remember a story where a dude went to the ER for a crippling tooth ache. He was given a prescription for antibiotics and painkillers. He could only afford one, so he opted for painkillers. He died that same night. “But if dental is free & accessible no one will have an incentive to brush their teeth or take care of themselves!” Dental health is loving important and some issues can be absolutely crippling. People often don’t have empathy until they experience it themselves. Never mind it being debt inducing. How many kids did we know in the mil with a hosed up grill because their parents never once took them?
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psydude posted:Medicare doesn't cover dental. Not sure where she's getting that from. Some state Medicare programs do, Minnesota does. Got me 12 cavities filled for nothing! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 2, 2018 21:48
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Washington also covers dental with it's Medicaid
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I *almost* had to make that choice in 2012 when I had a tooth split in half. I had 600 dollars to my name, period, and the grand total was like 580 bucks. I had them figure out how much each lidocaine injection costs before they did it. The only reason I got both antibiotics and painkillers was because the antibiotics were on the essential list and the pharmacist knew I was flat broke, so they were free. I still ended up getting about a third of the painkillers necessary.
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Vasudus posted:I *almost* had to make that choice in 2012 when I had a tooth split in half. I had 600 dollars to my name, period, and the grand total was like 580 bucks. I had them figure out how much each lidocaine injection costs before they did it. About 10 years ago I had one of my American mates fly over to the UK for a root canal I set up with my uni dentist. Flight was about $300, root canal was $10. Awesome dentist.
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it's always kind of weird that people will be like "the cost of the F-35 doesn't matter, if we didn't spend it on that its not like it would go to good things that's not how the budget works etc etc" and I always wonder why that logic can't be applied to health care unless you just want poor people to die or something
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Dec 2, 2018 22:00
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mods changed my name posted:there is no economic utility of the f35 for like 99.9999999% of people in the USA classified or not Since when did we measure military utility against private economic utility? Quite literally everything in the military could be said to have no economic utility. And that’s perfectly fine.
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Dec 2, 2018 22:05
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Since when did we measure military utility against private economic utility? Quite literally everything in the military could be said to have no economic utility. And that’s perfectly fine. Also the F-35A is pretty good.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Since when did we measure military utility against private economic utility? Quite literally everything in the military could be said to have no economic utility. And that’s perfectly fine. You don't think that it's a little hosed up that we hem and haw about spending money on keeping citizens in good health (and this could be argued for Natl Defense, it has precedence) while being just A-OK with unlimited military funding with questionable utility to society at large?
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mods changed my name posted:You don't think that it's a little hosed up that we hem and haw about spending money on keeping citizens in good health (and this could be argued for Natl Defense, it has precedence) while being just A-OK with unlimited military funding with questionable utility to society at large? I don’t hem and haw on spending money on healthcare for our country. I’m not A-Ok with unlimited military spending. Not even close. Who the hell are you arguing with man?
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Dec 2, 2018 22:15
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Washington also covers dental with it's Medicaid I'm not trying to be pedantic, but Medicare and Medicaid are separate things, the former being entirely federally run vs. the latter, which depends upon funding from the states themselves. The emerging Democratic healthcare plank is centered around the expansion of Medicare.
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Dec 2, 2018 22:19
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The BudK catalog selling 500mg amoxicillin capsules "for fish" is the greatest public service of our time.
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mods changed my name posted:it's always kind of weird that people will be like "the cost of the F-35 doesn't matter, if we didn't spend it on that its not like it would go to good things that's not how the budget works etc etc" and I always wonder why that logic can't be applied to health care unless you just want poor people to die or something Those idiots double don’t know how the budget works because 1) money can be reassigned after the budget is passed by congressional action and 2) there is a larger pool of money that DoD and healthcare budgets draw from in the first place. God I hate when people use that argument. It’s so plainly wrong. As if some loving higher power prevents the US from reallocating its own drat money after the budget is authorized and appropriated against. Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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Anyone bitching about the cost of M4A can do two things. Eat the corn straight out of my rear end in a top hat, and explain why the amount we're paying for-profit industries for the travesty of a medical system we have now suddenly doesn't count when it comes to covering everyone.
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shame on an IGA posted:The BudK catalog selling 500mg amoxicillin capsules "for fish" is the greatest public service of our time. Except antibiotic overprescription and underuse (not taking the full dose before stopping) is a huge public health risk wrt evolving antibiotic resistant bacteria. That said, yeah providing cheap access to necessary drugs is awesome and I support it in any way. Just hope people are using the amox responsibly. My graduate school hosed up my insurance enrollment and I didn't have dental when I thought I did. So I had a filling break and had to get an emergency root canal / crown. All in all it ran about $4500. I was only pulling in about $2k / month after taxes in grad school and had no real savings to speak of. I had to borrow about $1k from a friend just so I could make rent and keep from getting evicted. I spent the next 8 months living on essentially rice and beans etc just to get back to normal and make the rest of the payments. I looked into suing my school but that would have cost more $$$ and with an unsure outcome. I didn't want punitive damages, I just wanted them to fix what they hosed up (did not actually enroll me in the poo poo I was supposed to be enrolled in). It loving sucked and without a richer friend to bail me out I would have become homeless just because a loving root canal.
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That Works posted:Except antibiotic overprescription and underuse (not taking the full dose before stopping) is a huge public health risk wrt evolving antibiotic resistant bacteria. 
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man, where can we ever save money and cut costs in this country? 🤔 heavily downsize the mil, decrease deployment tempo (especially for the Navy), make the Marines a reserve force, close a lot of overseas bases, stop being a subsidized military for other countries but then we wouldn’t have our Starship Troopers forever war society so 🤷🏽♀️
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:I don’t hem and haw on spending money on healthcare for our country. I’m not A-Ok with unlimited military spending. Not even close. the "and that's fine" threw me off I guess, sorry. anyhow as always I'm arguing with the void man, the void.
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Or keep all that poo poo and increase taxes on the uber wealthy?
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bird food bathtub posted:Anyone bitching about the cost of M4A can do two things. Eat the corn straight out of my rear end in a top hat, and explain why the amount we're paying for-profit industries for the travesty of a medical system we have now suddenly doesn't count when it comes to covering everyone. I'm not even sure the insurance industry would be that opposed to it, either, since removing the requirement that they cover high risk people would lower their overhead a ton and allow them to focus on selling supplemental insurance.
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LingcodKilla posted:Just present M4A as a way to make sure our future Holy Christian Soldiers, who never take a knee, are fit and healthy growing up and so are the breeders who will be caring for them. During WWI the generals were moaning about the state of the cannon fodder being sent to them which brought about free school meals and free milk for primary school kids. Watch a few WWI news reels from Britain. The average height of the common soldier was 5' 3", emaciated and really bad teeth. Officers, drawn exclusively from the gentry were 5'6". Socialism brought about to feed the war mill.
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Tide posted:She's pretty alright. Pretty loving stupid. gonna put this up on the GiP fridge next to grover's finger painting and the smoldering crater dead reckoning used to occupy
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:man, where can we ever save money and cut costs in this country? 🤔 We can make military retirees pay for survivor benefits! ... Oh wait.
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shame on an IGA posted:The BudK catalog selling 500mg amoxicillin capsules "for fish" is the greatest public service of our time. Of all the drugs to make cheap and available for everyone antibiotics are the last one I'd say is a good thing.
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also Tide i kinda have a thing for what i call "aggressive stupidity" so post at your own peril
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That Works posted:Except antibiotic overprescription and underuse (not taking the full dose before stopping) is a huge public health risk wrt evolving antibiotic resistant bacteria. University of Manchester central campus dentist UK. It’s a private practise run by an old toff and he charges peanuts. If you’re ever in the UK.
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It’s a breath of fresh air that GIP is mostly vets/mil, and aren’t consistently spreading vitriol about everything: “ugh lieberals and their avocado toast! Check out this cherry picked and edited clip of AOC saying dumb poo poo! Peep this Ben Shapiro debate! 2nd amendment!” and just being right winging chodes as a whole. I’m always incredulous to think it’s what everyone really believes on here, and they’re sort of rolling with the punches? I mean, going by the vets/mil on my fb feed where it’s 95% of the above. But every now and again their true colors rear their ugly head Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:It’s a breath of fresh air that GIP is mostly vets/mil, and aren’t consistently spreading vitriol about everything: “ugh lieberals and their avocado toast! Check out this cherry picked and edited clip of AOC saying dumb poo poo! Peep this Ben Shapiro debate! 2nd amendment!” and just being right winging chodes as a whole. I’m always incredulous to think it’s what everyone really believes on here, and they’re sort of rolling with the punches? I mean, going by the vets/mil on my fb feed where it’s 95% of the above. I dunno, they were pretty rabid about NDT and Bill loving Nye a couple of pages ago.
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Godholio posted:I dunno, they were pretty rabid about NDT and Bill loving Nye a couple of pages ago. Ehhh Bill Nye sort of dug his grave with that Netflix mess, but I’m not gonna be all “he’s not even a scientist!” Plus he did a reddit AMA where he was extremely condescending and petulant. But dude is a mechanical engineer and has some patented poo poo still in use by Boeing or w/e. His original show was fun NDT has made some dumb tweets about movies, but he’s mostly stopped with that poo poo. That said, I still like the dude, and while not ideal we need a sort of pop culture celebrity representative like him for science Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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Godholio posted:I dunno, they were pretty rabid about NDT and Bill loving Nye a couple of pages ago. Did he get #metoo’d? I must have missed that one.
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Eej posted:Of all the drugs to make cheap and available for everyone antibiotics are the last one I'd say is a good thing. Its ok, unregulated farmers in China are doing their best to breed superbugs, what's one more? With resistant TB on the horizon and MRSA lasting longer against more antiobiotics I'm actually surprised we haven't seen some form of Spanish Flu come out of left field already. Also, shockingly, Netanyahu may face charges. Not for human rights violations, but for bribery.
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Godholio posted:I dunno, they were pretty rabid about NDT and Bill loving Nye a couple of pages ago. lol don't make poo poo up. Literally one poster said Nye was a bad science ambassador. lmfao
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Did he get #metoo’d? I must have missed that one. No, goons decided to be goons.
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