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Strom Cuzewon posted:"sentient universe desperate for a friend" is a great episode. They actually fit together quite well, actually. Both center around beings creating elaborate lies for people they should care about, but are too distanced to really comprehend - one by grief, one through by physical incompatibility with out universe. The Frog Sequence* drives this home. The Solitract deeply cares about the people it traps... once they've been trapped. Anyone on the outside isn't quite comprehensible to it, just as Erik isn't capable of seeing his daughter as a real person. There were a lot of layers here, and I'm looking forward to thinking about it over the next few days. Haven't been able to do that with a Doctor Who episode in a while. *Playing this Friday in the Co-Op Basement! Tickets available from band members!
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AndyElusive posted:That has got to be the crown jewel episode of the season, right? Or am I just a terrible Doctor Who fan who ate that episode up. Well we're all terrible for various reasons, but no you're right, for me that was absolutely the best episode of the season so far.
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Dec 3, 2018 03:13
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Best of the series and it wasn't close.
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Astroman posted:Next season's new companion: A companion that only moves when Graham is alone with it, and he keeps desperately trying to convince an unsettled Ryan and Yaz that it is alive and moves. The Doctor, of course, completely believes him.
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Dec 3, 2018 03:26
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I just hope that, starting next season, every episode will end with the Doctor telling a terrible joke from one of her grandmothers, Welcome Back, Kotter style.
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Dec 3, 2018 03:52
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That episode was crazy in the best way. I think the frog thing was both dumb and perfect.
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LividLiquid posted:Best of the series and it wasn't close. Demons of the Punjab was better, but I appreciated tonight's go for broke sci-fi silliness
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Dec 3, 2018 04:28
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Yeah this was definitely the standout to me. This is what I want from Doctor Who, some crazy sci-fi shenanigans with the occasional emotional punch in there too. And also the Doctor making friends with a sentient universe that is also a frog.
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Dec 3, 2018 04:54
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Doctor Who needs to go full batshit 70s high concept more often, because that was really good. 
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Dec 3, 2018 04:55
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Best episode of the season so far for me. The subtle audio beat during the whole episode was well done.
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Dec 3, 2018 05:33
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I think it's tied for me between this and The Demons. I like them for different reasons, and there's basically no overlap in what appeals to me about them.
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CommonShore posted:I like them for different reasons, and there's basically no overlap in what appeals to me about them. Yeah I have to agree, even if I still place The Woman Who Fell to Earth slightly above Demons. It Takes You Away and Demons of the Punjab are such different episodes, both great in such different ways. Although I love that both episodes have titles with different meanings based on later context within the episodes.
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For me so far, Best to Whatever: It Takes You Away Tsuranga Conundrum Demons of the Punjab Arachnids in the UK Rosa The Witchfinders Kerblam! The Woman Who Fell to Earth The Ghost Monument - The ending of Tsuranga had already been done in The Expanse, but it was a solid episode with some nice far-future weirdness that reminded me a bit of the far-future stuff we used to get in RTD episodes. Plus the alien was basically Stitch, right down to the squat little body. - Punjab and It Takes You Away are the only emotional plots that have landed for me this season. Killing off Grace for little reason in the pilot left a bad taste in my mouth, but at least Graham got a nice bit of closure in ITYA. - Rosa was fine, but parts of it tread a little too close to “I couldn’t have done it without you, Doctor!” territory and the scene with Rosa being pulled off the bus really didn’t need a slow distracting pop song played over it. - Witchfinders and Kerblam would both be ranked higher had they not completely botched their resolutions. - I honestly forgot Ghost Monument existed until I looked at the list of episodes.
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As good as Demons was and as mildly competent as Witchfinders was, this has really been the only time this season Doctor Who actually felt weird. This was some proper Logopolis/Castrovalva bizarre rear end-poo poo. And it actually remembered to do something interesting with the companions! Well, one of them actually, which is still one more than pretty much any other episode this season. Ed Hime for showrunner I guess, whoever he is. EDIT: Also, good to see that monster of the week from Season 2 of Buffy is still getting work, I like that guy. Rochallor fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Dec 3, 2018 |
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Jerusalem posted:13: Of course, she thought Granny 2 was a secret agent Zygon an- There's no way he records them on DVR. He's got a casette recorder next to the speaker on his telly.
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Best episode of the season, edging out Demons.
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"The conservatory is the most dangerous room." Come on Ryan! How many houses have a conservatory?
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Rochallor posted:Ed Hime for showrunner I guess, whoever he is. His IMDB is a weird gulf; it's two episodes of Skins, and then It Takes You Away. But that's because most of his career between those two points has been writing plays and radio dramas. And I don't think it surprises anyone that this episode is written by someone who writes for the stage; you could basically do this entire thing with a single stage and some clever set design. As much as I love both Rosa and Demons of the Punjab, yeah, this has to be my favorite of the season. Those two would be great stories in entirely different shows, but It Takes You Away is something that could only be a great episode of Doctor Who. And it does so well at it without leaning on any of the crutches of Doctor Who. ...and I may have to compare some notes between this and something I once wrote about a literal mirror universe, because I swear I've written this before!
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Barrowman injured on I’m a Celebrity. Of course he does it in the way that only a Who companion would.
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"We need a girl who is blind and has a Nordic accent" "Does she have to be blind, or could she just wear dark glasses?" "She has to be properly blind, else people will complain on Twitter" ...... "Okay, found someone who is blind and can do the accent. Mind you, she can't act" "Meh, good enough"
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It is sincerely better that a blind actress get roles and paid work than that they meet your weird standards.
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DoctorWhat posted:It is sincerely better that a blind actress get roles and paid work than that they meet your weird standards. What, 'being able to act' is a weird standard?
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Dec 3, 2018 12:39
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There are plenty of sighted actors on Doctor Who who can't act worth a drat, so I see nothing wrong with some slightly ropey acting. That reminds me, the bit with the Doctor writing that her dad was probably dead on the wall was a cool, Doctor-y moment... but not for this Doctor. I could see it coming from... 9, maybe 11? It definitely doesn't seem like a 13 moment, even as loosely as her character has been defined so far.
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The_Doctor posted:Barrowman injured on I’m a Celebrity. Of course he does it in the way that only a Who companion would. Thoughts and prayers to his wife and children. 
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DoctorWhat posted:It is sincerely better that a blind actress get roles and paid work than that they meet your weird standards.
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spog posted:What, 'being able to act' is a weird standard? Yeah. It is. Rochallor posted:There are plenty of sighted actors on Doctor Who who can't act worth a drat, so I see nothing wrong with some slightly ropey acting. It's 12 as hell, I'd say. Also it's very appropriate that 13 wants to make friends with an entire universe
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Barry Foster posted:Yeah. It is. I feel like 12 would just come out and say it, except that in Series 10 he'd be nicer about it.
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Rochallor posted:I feel like 12 would just come out and say it, except that in Series 10 he'd be nicer about it. yeah I rather liked that scene - you could see some of that harsh pragmatism shine through in 13, but moderated in a way to try not to needlessly upset someone
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Speaking of harsh pragmatism, I just realised that Ryan was 100% correct at the start of the episode when he said the girl's father probably just hosed off and left her.
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Rochallor posted:I feel like 12 would just come out and say it, except that in Series 10 he'd be nicer about it. 12 was always good with kids, remember Hide? It was adults he was a dick to .
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eke out posted:yeah I rather liked that scene - you could see some of that harsh pragmatism shine through in 13, but moderated in a way to try not to needlessly upset someone It's one of those moments that would be done different by every Doctor, especially in the revival, which I love. Twelve would've just said it, Eleven probably would've lied very loudly to himself and everyone else. Thirteen, though, is playing it very delicately, using the concrete facts she already has to do what she thinks is the right thing... only for the whole plan to stumble because she didn't manage to factor in the human element quite right. The only revival Doctor I can imagine doing largely the same things would be Ten, and even then, he'd probably only do the same things on the surface; I feel like his underlying logic and reasoning would be entirely different for it.
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Gaz-L posted:12 was always good with kids, remember Hide? It was adults he was a dick to . Hide was 11, Listen was 12.
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Cleretic posted:It's one of those moments that would be done different by every Doctor. Tom Baker (cheerfully) "Your father's probably dead." *manic grin, before dropping down to a serious tone* "But this mirror..."
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Dec 3, 2018 13:56
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Patrovsky posted:"The conservatory is the most dangerous room." Hey, I appreciate a good Clue(do) joke.
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Watching this episode high was a very strange experience.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Tom Baker (cheerfully) "Your father's probably dead." *manic grin, before dropping down to a serious tone* "But this mirror..." Five: "Ah. Now. Well... Tegan, you explain, I'll get the mirror open."
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Seven: Ah, I’m sure he’s arrrround somewherrrre. Wouldn’t you agree, Ace? Now, about this mirrrrrorrrr...
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Organza Quiz posted:Speaking of harsh pragmatism, I just realised that Ryan was 100% correct at the start of the episode when he said the girl's father probably just hosed off and left her. Yeah, that was good - plus he didn't go "I told you so", showing that he'd learnt to empathise with her. Character growth (dunno if it was intentional, mind you)!
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