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Your Taint posted:Regardless of what you think about him, HW Bush is only the 32nd person to lie in state at the Capitol. What happened to the other 10 presidents?
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Discendo Vox posted:Here's a question: why do we allocate funding to drug development for diseases that effect a disproportionately small part of the population, if the same funding could be allocated to drug development for things that cause greater harm? because those diseases have the potential to infect almost anyone and what's an isolated disease can often bloom into a wider problem
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Mince Pieface posted:I don't have stats, but as someone who works in biotech/ pharma R&D, there's a couple issues: This is going to vary drastically depending on what country to live in. I believe the NHS still does (or used to, who know what the Tories cut) fund the entire process. In Canada it varies by province but my brief experience working with one here in Ontario was 100% publicly funded by OHIP.
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haveblue posted:What happened to the other 10 presidents? Only 10 or 11 were Presidents. https://www.aoc.gov/nations-stage/lying-state-honor
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Discendo Vox posted:Here's a question: why do we allocate funding to drug development for diseases that effect a disproportionately small part of the population, if the same funding could be allocated to drug development for things that cause greater harm? Basically because what they're doing is looking at weird compounds that do strange things to the human body, and then trying to figure out if any of that is useful in any way.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:11
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i mean, i ain't as a general rule going to judge a defense lawyer too much for keeping a particular client What the gently caress dude
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Mystic Mongol posted:Basically because what they're doing is looking at weird compounds that do strange things to the human body, and then trying to figure out if any of that is useful in any way. sexpig by night posted:because those diseases have the potential to infect almost anyone and what's an isolated disease can often bloom into a wider problem OK, that makes a...degree of sense. I regard orphan drug research funding with a degree of suspicion because of the venture fund people I keep seeing hovering around it.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:14
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The people of WI are pisssssssed https://twitter.com/benwikler/status/1069745796034281479
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Discendo Vox posted:Here's a question: why do we allocate funding to drug development for diseases that effect a disproportionately small part of the population, if the same funding could be allocated to drug development for things that cause greater harm?
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Dec 4, 2018 01:15
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skylined! posted:The people of WI are pisssssssed drat ok maybe I was wrong, maybe my state isn't 100% hosed yet. I'm not in a position to go protest but I hope those people accomplish something.
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skylined! posted:What the gently caress dude I'm not one to self-quote but I'm going to just post these before you respond https://www.businessinsider.com/how-alan-dershowitz-got-involved-in-jeffrey-epstein-case-2015-1 quote:Here's where Dershowitz comes in. Last week, Cassell and another lawyer for the Jane Does, Bradley Edwards, filed a motion asking the court to add two more Jane Does to the case. That motion stated that a girl known only as Jane Doe #3 had been forced to have sex with "powerful people," including Dershowitz, who had represented the financier. quote:One such powerful individual that Epstein forced then-minor Jane Doe #3 to have sexual relations with was former Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, a close friend of Epstein's and well-known criminal defense attorney. Epstein required Jane Doe #3 to have sexual relations with Dershowitz on numerous occasions while she was a minor, not only in Florida but also on private planes, in New York, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Dershowitz is Epstein's attorney because he is a loving monster, not because he has some judicial duty to defend his forever-client.
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I didn't know that Nixon didn't eulogize LBJ but I'm adding that to the list of reasons he's a piece of poo poo.
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skylined! posted:The people of WI are pisssssssed This should be a "storm the building and burn it down" moment if they proceed with this crap.
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skylined! posted:The people of WI are pisssssssed https://twitter.com/analieseeicher/status/1069681657723138048
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InsertPotPun posted:Because the government is picking up the slack for private enterprise who won't spend money on something that won't pay them back. Essentially what you're talking about is the entire point of government: to protect people who have no other avenues. Per the prior conversation, that's...specifically not how government funding of drug research works. None of the people who benefit from any sector of federally funded drug development have other avenues; absent some overarching reason, orphan drug research funding would just be a particularly inefficient and abuse-prone allocation of money compared to other research funding streams. And it's definitely the sort of setup anti-regulatory groups love. There's nothing like a legally defined longshot project, because it means you're not as accountable if your efforts don't produce results. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Mystic Mongol posted:Basically because what they're doing is looking at weird compounds that do strange things to the human body, and then trying to figure out if any of that is useful in any way. That's Not Biochemistry [TM].
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Discendo Vox posted:Per the prior conversation, that's...specifically not how government funding of drug research works. None of the people who benefit from any sector of federally funded drug development have other avenues; absent some overarching reason, orphan drug research funding would just be a particularly inefficient and abuse-prone allocation of money compared to other research funding streams. And it's definitely the sort of setup anti-regulatory groups love. There's nothing like a legally defined longshot project, because it means you're not as accountable if your efforts don't produce results. This issue just encapsulates the problem with having things that are good for the public at large or the country in general being driven by a private company for profit. Like there is a reason that vital industries aren't run for profit, and personally I don't really understand the need to have health care turn a profit. The argument used tends to be 'we need to make money in order to devise better treatments or build better facilities', but those aren't reasons that healthcare needs to generate profit but a reason that the healthcare industry needs money. We don't have private companies build our roads and then charge us extra so they can build more roads or widen roads for better traffic flow, we just fund it together in the form of money from the government.
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skylined! posted:I'm not one to self-quote but I'm going to just post these before you respond Yeah it's pedophiles circling their wagons.
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Groovelord Neato posted:holy poo poo i missed this insanity. god drat this is moving along exactly according to schedule that someone here i think called out over a decade ago. next step is when they''ll admit that it's bad and there's nothing we can do about it and then after that it'll be well WE WOULD HAVE done something if you liberals weren't being so hyperbolic and scaring everyone!!
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skylined! posted:The people of WI are pisssssssed The GOP's insane powergrab is about to provoke a state into open revolt. Cool and good country.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:36
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CALLED IT!!! I kept asking on Saturday night if he was actually asked to speak because in light of the uh, history with him and that family, it seemed odd if he went on to give a eulogy. This rules.
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VH4Ever posted:CALLED IT!!! I kept asking on Saturday night if he was actually asked to speak because in light of the uh, history with him and that family, it seemed odd if he went on to give a eulogy. This rules. I picture him accidentally driving his golf cart into the open grave for some reason. The guy is a walking travesty.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:41
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EngineerJoe posted:I hope when Trump finally kicks it it's in late April and the government shuts down for Cinco de Mayo This would basically be my gateway into believing in a higher power, and specifically a higher power who would bring the world to chaos in order to build for the sickest punchline ever.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:42
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Lightning Knight posted:I didn't know that Nixon didn't eulogize LBJ but I'm adding that to the list of reasons he's a piece of poo poo. They were both pieces of poo poo, so it's fitting.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:44
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literally pulling an 'actually I'm laughing' hahaha
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Dec 4, 2018 01:46
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KillHour posted:They were both pieces of poo poo, so it's fitting. True but LBJ was a piece of poo poo who at least tried to expand the social welfare state massively to help the poor and pretended to care about black people, which are precisely two more positive traits than Nixon had.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:46
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I'm still dying over here. The sitting president of the US is such a walking disaster that he can't be trusted to just read a prepared speech about a dead former president, and the closest such example is an actual traitor not eulogizing the predecessor who had him dead to rights on the treason he committed because he was a corrupt coward. We're living in some interesting loving times.
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Dec 4, 2018 01:56
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Turns out my initial instinct that it was probably all lies is more likely than not lol https://twitter.com/KevinWhitelaw1/status/1069720530977255424?s=19
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Dec 4, 2018 01:58
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Milo put out a response to this story on Twitter.
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Link goes to a suspended account. That was fast.
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I think it's wild that someone could be that in debt while trying to live the high life by the pool, while the second I owe money or have crippling student loans, billing jumps on that with the quickness. These pricks like him forcefully speak out against "welfare queens" or people just wanting a basic standard of living while they run up a bill.
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Dec 4, 2018 02:00
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What did the Miami Herald do?
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Hastings posted:I think it's wild that someone could be that in debt while trying to live the high life by the pool, while the second I owe money or have crippling student loans, billing jumps on that with the quickness. These pricks like him forcefully speak out against "welfare queens" or people just wanting a basic standard of living while they run up a bill. There is a decently well known quote/phrase that I have no clue where it is from. Basically, if you owe someone a small amount of money, they have influence over you. However, if you owe someone a poo poo-tons of money you have control over them. Like eventually they're going to milk enough out of you that even if they don't get it all they're not operating a loss. They can't work over the guy who owes them 4 million dollars and get even close to that amount, so they have a vested interest in seeing him get into a position to get them that money.
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https://twitter.com/MuhammadLila/status/1069609790802784257 It's so majestic. 
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