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TheMightyHandful posted:For you Attenborough fans quote:Poor old Sir David. All he does today is narrate programmes prepared and written by others. I always had the utmost respect for him until 10 or so years ago. Please retire with some dignity Sir. quote:It would be easier to believe if they suggested a solution that didn't involve everyone else's money.
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is he campaigning on something other than malthusian beliefs this time? like how long till he paints his skin purple and begins to demand The Great Cull?
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GoldStandardConure posted:is he campaigning on something other than malthusian beliefs this time? like how long till he paints his skin purple and begins to demand The Great Cull? he has 4 of the infinity stones already and he's showing no signs of slowing down, Edit: I just noticed the Greens are supporting/have supported govt. legislation which basically makes it fair game for them to block VPN services. I know I'm a bit late to the party, apparently the vote went down in late November. https://www.computerworld.com.au/ar...QSNeVCQsjo4Veb4 I think this is the thing that will prevent me from volunteering this/next year. Yeah, the ALP supported it too, and they don't need the funding so I'll probably still give the Greens my first preference in a very safe ALP seat - but gently caress, between this and the horror show that is the Vic/NSW branches right now, I can't endorse this poo poo. This isn't the party Ludlam represented, and it's not the party I worked hard to support in 4 separate election campaigns. Don Dongington fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Labor continuing to be garbage on refugees, wanting to retain ministerial discretion over medical evacuation decisions.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:05
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GoldStandardConure posted:is he campaigning on something other than malthusian beliefs this time? like how long till he paints his skin purple and begins to demand The Great Cull? He never did. He said consumption and population are the cause which is true. 7 billion humans in a cappo industrial international system of consumption are more damaging than 1 billion. It's not a difficult concept. The true Malthusian would welcome and support climate change because it is the universe handing out redress.
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I'll be impressed if anyone can get through this without murdering him, given how insufferable his tweets are.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:10
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JBP posted:He never did. He said consumption and population are the cause which is true. 7 billion humans in a cappo industrial international system of consumption are more damaging than 1 billion. It's not a difficult concept. The true Malthusian would welcome and support climate change because it is the universe handing out redress. Guess where he wants to stop population growth and stop sending food aid so that they will starve to death. It's not the places with consumption well above people's needs.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Guess where he wants to stop population growth and stop sending food aid so that they will starve to death. It's not the places with consumption well above people's needs. So now you're being snide, crossing climate change discussion with comments on famine and populations without farming needing to be propped up by international aid?
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Why is famine so common in some parts of Africa Hurrrnrnnnnnn cApiTAliSm E: if you have a drought and the state or stocks can't weather it, a lot of people die. That's life. Not to mention the political poo poo going on where the international community was blocking aid due to it being stolen by paramilitary actors. JBP fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Dec 4, 2018 03:18
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JBP posted:Why is famine so common in some parts of Africa /imperialism
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Dec 4, 2018 03:21
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JBP posted:Why is famine so common in some parts of Africa Why were famines so common in pre-Soviet Russia, why were they so common in pre-revolutionary China? Both of them you could easily say they had a huge population living beyond their means, but it's clearly not true, it was a matter of development. I'm also sure the colonialist malthusian wanker splits his genocidal plans between those dying of famines and those dying from climate change (as if one won't affect the other.) WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Dec 4, 2018 03:21
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I'm okay with keeping people fed even if it isn't profitable.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:23
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I'm sorry JBP, the Auspol hive mind think Sir David is a bad person, so please can you change your views to better suit this view.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:24
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:I'm okay with keeping people fed even if it isn't profitable. Same but I don't wield absolute power over the earth and neither does Attenborough, despite posters thinking otherwise.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:26
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David Attenborough murdered Steve Irwin
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Why were famines so common in pre-Soviet Russia, why were they so common in pre-revolutionary China? Both of them you could easily say they had a huge population living beyond their means, but it's clearly not true, it was a matter of development. They weren't insulated from famine by the machines of climate change. Great point.
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Also I like that an individual with no meaningful stake or power in the region going "ho hum they ran out of food because of weather events" is genocide. You're a cretin.
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You Am I posted:I'm sorry JBP, the Auspol hive mind think Sir David is a bad person, so please can you change your views to better suit this view. gently caress the salty salties
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JBP posted:They weren't insulated from famine by the machines of climate change. Great point. It is. Deindustrialising isn't even a remotely viable solution to climate change. It leads to famine. JBP posted:Also I like that going "ho hum they ran out of food because of weather events" is genocide. You're a cretin. 'We should intentionally cut off food aid from those we have become rich from keeping in poverty', is genocide, sorry. It was genocide in Ireland when they exported food, genocide in Bengal when they didn't allow grain to be shipped there and it'd be genocide in Africa. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Dec 4, 2018 03:30
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:It is. Deindustrialising isn't even a remotely viable solution to climate change. It leads to famine. No one said that. You think people are saying things, but they're not. You're spooking yourself out.
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You Am I posted:I'm sorry JBP, the Auspol hive mind think Sir David is a bad person, so please can you change your views to better suit this view. i like attenborough, and i think he has done a great job raising awareness of nature and the need to protect it etc, but he has always been a bit of a poo poo when it comes to overpopulation
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Dec 4, 2018 03:32
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It's like being flogged by warm lettuce
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28766f69642a2930 posted:David Attenborough murdered Steve Irwin
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GoldStandardConure posted:i like attenborough, and i think he has done a great job raising awareness of nature and the need to protect it etc, but he has always been a bit of a poo poo when it comes to overpopulation He just lives in the immediacy of situations. So drought and famine are in their immediacy caused by weather. His comments on food aid were literally "that won't fix it" but he doesn't explore the other solutions because he's not an international relations or politics expert. He just deals with the present natural context for famine when he speaks which is not enough food for this many mouths E: but you can infer from his speaking on climate change that he believes collective activity to reduce carbon is necessary for everyone, since his opinion is that climate change equals total destruction, not just destruction of Savage peoples abroad or whatever you like to attach to his funny accent
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JBP posted:He just lives in the immediacy of situations. So drought and famine are in their immediacy caused by weather. His comments on food aid were literally "that won't fix it" but he doesn't explore the other solutions because he's not an international relations or politics expert. He just deals with the present natural context for famine when he speaks which is not enough food for this many mouths When he could easily point out that its the current political situation eg: capitalism and the fact that England was a terrible colonial power that set up the hosed situation half these countries are in. But he doesn't. If he did he would probably loose his BBC shows though. Saying "not enough food for too many mouths" basically speaks directly to your local pub chud who always says "why do families in africa keep having kids if they can't feed the ones they have? lets stop sending them food. what about our homeless here? *does nothing to help the homeless" its irresponsible messaging.
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Or his class position in elite British society doesn't allow him to accurately point the finger at the vast history of, and continued colonial subjugation of the continent and its ongoing detrimental effects. 'He's not a policy expert' is just bullshit. e:fb
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GoldStandardConure posted:i like attenborough, and i think he has done a great job raising awareness of nature and the need to protect it etc, but he has always been a bit of a poo poo when it comes to overpopulation You don't like him GSC, stop sugar coating it. You want him gone, locked away. Look deep inside your feelings, you know it.
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You Am I posted:You don't like him GSC, stop sugar coating it. You want him gone, locked away. Look deep inside your feelings, you know it. nah i want to fite him irl in a cage match, i reckon i can take him someone book the main event!!
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Also where do we magic up millions of tonnes of iron ore and coking coal from to industrialise food production for a billion people without mining and manufacturing it? You'd be expending an amount of energy beyond comprehension.
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Dec 4, 2018 03:41
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Or his class position in elite British society doesn't allow him to accurately point the finger at the vast history of, and continued colonial subjugation of the continent and its ongoing detrimental effects. 'He's not a policy expert' is just bullshit. Why does Attenborough have to have an answer? Like if my car is broken down on the side of the road should I expect him to know what's wrong, and be able to repair it? Is there something wrong when someone doesn't have the answer, or an answer that doesn't make you happy?
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You Am I posted:Why does Attenborough have to have an answer? It's the tried and true left wing art of making enemies of friends. Follow the pure ideology, denizen.
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JBP posted:It's the tried and true left wing art of making enemies of friends. Follow the pure ideology, denizen. you just made an enemy for life!!
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You Am I posted:Why does Attenborough have to have an answer? He does have an answer, and it's a fascist Malthusian one. I don't think it's particularly baffling why that's bad and he should be criticised for having that opinion.
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JBP posted:Also where do we magic up millions of tonnes of iron ore and coking coal from to industrialise food production for a billion people without mining and manufacturing it? You'd be expending an amount of energy beyond comprehension. This is why I said deindustrialising isn't a solution. Yes they do have to industrialise and mining and manufacturing will have to be done. That will require a large energy expenditure and carbon emissions.
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How about them Australian politics
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JBP posted:Also where do we magic up millions of tonnes of iron ore and coking coal from to industrialise food production for a billion people without mining and manufacturing it? You'd be expending an amount of energy beyond comprehension. There is enough food to feed everyone on the planet already.
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bandaid.friend posted:But the great thing about fast rail is that you don't have to build it, just talk about it forever It's rail, but fast.
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hambeet posted:How about them Australian politics they're shite
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