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overmind2000 posted:Which thread is that one? It sounds hilarious https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3797869 Half of it is literally actually talking about Costco deals and sales and other half of it is getting into slapfights about Costco's food court amongst other things. May not be quite as exciting but we know what we are.
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I called my congress critters about it.
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Mummy Xzibit posted:"The internet makes you stupid" was both overly obvious and stunningly prescient. Maybe these folks are wiser then us then: skylined! posted:The people of WI are pisssssssed
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Brony Car posted:That seems like an extreme reading. I know the state is gerrymandered to the point of idiocy, so will this anger break up the GOP's dominance of the state legislature?
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Otteration posted:What is the "major problem"? Some people were rightly pointing out that Tumblr actually has multiple ones such as commercial viability, wholesale takedown of blogs, etc. but the biggest one in the Tumblr community was child pornography was getting posted along with Nazi propaganda with no flagging at all. Tumblr did jack poo poo to crack down on this until they just decided to punish everyone.
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skeleton warrior posted:Certainly the fall of the USSR only affected Russia, and the tremendous drop in GDP and life expectancy had nothing to do with Russia imperialistically plundering client states to enrich its oligarchs, followed by having to plunder its own people to maintain those oligarchs The issue was that privatization happened in pretty much the most hapzard way possible under at least in part under the guidance of American advisors. Moreover, the Soviets then the Russians were begging for money just for food and basic services and we turned them down until Yeltsins reign was in doubt in 1996. Also while Soviet influence retreated, it erased in retrospect a essential ideological and geopolitical counterbalance to the US. The damage this is doing is very apparent. Also the former republics were plundered by their own local oligarchs for the most part.
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Hastings posted:Some people were rightly pointing out that Tumblr actually has multiple ones such as commercial viability, wholesale takedown of blogs, etc. but the biggest one in the Tumblr community was child pornography was getting posted along with Nazi propaganda with no flagging at all. Tumblr did jack poo poo to crack down on this until they just decided to punish everyone. Except the Nazis, as the WaPo helpfully pointed out 
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jit bull transpile posted:Word is they're already using this ban to incorrectly flag lgbtq content as adult content and pull it down. Surprise. This is my surprised face. Holy poo poo that's Darwin Award dumbassary. The LGBTQ community is their main userbase 
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Dec 4, 2018 05:17
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I know I'm late but you know what drug this all applies to except the felony part? CHRISTMAS! errr.. alcohol. Pretty sure there have been way more preteens busted with that as well.
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Dec 4, 2018 05:18
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Imagine being an anti-weed LEO in 2018, jfc it must suck to suck
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im officially off marijauna forever now jfc i almost got gateway'ed into heroine
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The real gateway drug is alcohol. Alcohol is a much worse drug than pot.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Imagine being an anti-weed LEO in 2018, jfc it must suck to suck I was watching Narcos Mexico while eating THC popcorn and thinking about how crazy it was that at one point there were a group of people willing to lay it all on the line to stop the flow of Mexican marijuana into the United States. A few decades later and you can just walk into a store in some states and buy all kinds of THC products.
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Stereotype posted:The real gateway drug is alcohol. Alcohol is a much worse drug than pot. Not sure I'd even count it as a gateway since it's worse than a lot of Schedule 1 substances. If we discovered ethanol today, it would be outlawed by the weekend. Edit: that said, I get why a lot of olds are fighting so hard to keep weed on the list. They were weaned on a shitload of racist propaganda about how it would turn you into slathering drug zombie. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Eltoasto posted:If Manchin becomes the ranking Democrat on the Energy committee, it's because Bernie stepped to the side and let him. No, it's not. Bernie would have to step in to prevent it. Bernie is the ranking member on the budget committee. Bernie would have to specifically give up his position as ranking member in the budget committee to prevent Manchin from taking over. The person actually stepping aside is Maria Cantwell, who is currently the ranking member but interested in moving to the commerce committee. People trying to pin this on Bernie are dishonest people pushing a narrative. Schumer could just bypass Manchin. Maria Cantwell could just stay put. Wyden and Stabenow are also ahead and in exactly the same position as Bernie. And yet it is Bernie who is supposed to give up the much more important budget committee to prevent Manchin from taking over.
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Stereotype posted:The real gateway drug is alcohol. Alcohol is a much worse drug than pot. Yeah the gateway to me making it through another day.
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Skippy McPants posted:Not sure I'd even count it as a gateway since it's worse than a lot of Schedule 1 substances. If we discovered ethanol today, it would be outlawed by the weekend. Not a chance. They would outlaw honey or grapes or some poo poo.
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tk posted:Not a chance. Some would go that far, but many would settle for banning agave as an absolute litmus test, with a heavily circulated media panic about the specific horrors of tequila drunks. Dos Equis would also be implied, but seldom explicitly stated, to also be part of the "tequila problem."
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Ardennes posted:The issue was that privatization happened in pretty much the most hapzard way possible under at least in part under the guidance of American advisors. Moreover, the Soviets then the Russians were begging for money just for food and basic services and we turned them down until Yeltsins reign was in doubt in 1996. Why on earth would we ever give food to a beggar who had nuclear missiles pointed at us though. Yes, the US is bad, but Russia is just a threat, not some important geopolitical counterballance.
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nine-gear crow posted:https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1069777303729786882 Wait. Is Tumblr really going to go through with committing business suicide over them not wanting to actually police for child porn like Reddit ended up being forced to do? The porn and adult communities are the only thing left keeping Tumblr going at this point. Just about anyone that actually wanted to use Tumblr for non porn activities moved off to Facebook or Twitter years ago. Also something i've read that's only rarely getting mentioned in all of this is that LGBT supportive content is apparently being reclassified as "adult". So anyone that comes out as gay or trans has to risk getting banned on the service. Which is pretty frigging awful all around and makes it seem like the CEO or whoever made this decision is just a hilariously awful conservative shithead that would rather burn the business to the ground rather than go after child porn. Archonex fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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jit bull transpile posted:Word is they're already using this ban to incorrectly flag lgbtq content as adult content and pull it down. Surprise. This is my surprised face. If you remove porn and lgbtq content from tumblr... what's left?
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tk posted:Not a chance. gently caress yes shove that whipped honey into my gaping maw you little bitch Serfer posted:If you remove porn and lgbtq content from tumblr... what's left? Absofuckinglutely nothing, except ad bots. I follow a puppy Tumblr and even they took time out to post how stupid this all is, and how many subscribers would be gone because of this.
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Serfer posted:If you remove porn and lgbtq content from tumblr... what's left? Nazi and extreme right wing content I guess? Though even they won't touch it for the most part since Tumblr is synonymous with the concept of SJW's. Hell, "Tumblr SJW" used to be an insult for those sort of people. Edit: I still can't stop laughing about how loving stupid this is. Apparently this whole thing is due to them not policing for child porn and Apple throwing a poo poo fit about it (And also adult content in general since Apple is apparently super draconian about that.). So instead of actually hiring someone to handle reviews and the banning of that content like they should have in the first place they're just going to commit social media suicide on a grandiose level by annihilating what communities they have left. Which means that whoever runs Tumblr at the moment would literally rather burn the business to the ground rather than meet the bare minimum half-assed policing and banning standards that Reddit was forced to adhere too after their lovely chud-esque kiddy porn subgroups got caught out in the light of the press. What's more, they're using this an excuse to go after LGBT community members. What an incredibly lovely business. Archonex fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Feldegast42 posted:Holy poo poo that's Darwin Award dumbassary. The LGBTQ community is their main userbase Yeah, back in the day, whenever I heard the epithet "SJW" or "social justice warrior", it was usually tied with Tumblr, because of the safe space for queer, gender, and sexual expression. I would even call something like Gamergate as an internet flame war between the incel chuds of 4chan and Tumblr's user base. I'm guessing 4chan won. 
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While "porn" is the headline here, sex-positive content is the main thing being nuked, with people pointing out the billions of advertising pornbot accounts that don't comply with the rules are still there and the actual communities are gone. Fundamentally, the failing is centralization. We've never found a way to allow people to communicate on the internet without a corporation providing the servers. Be it geocities, myspace, AOL or whoever, the only way to put something out there for the world to see was to rely on someone elses service and their rules, and their obedience to the almighty market. It has real world-consequences, from facebook's culpability in the myanmar massacres to people left disconnected and unable to contact their former community after google decided to kill off Orkut because they didn't give a poo poo about the South American market. It was one of the top destinations in Brazil but that wasn't enough to keep it around. While deplatforming is obvious, the lack of a viable place to form a community in the first place is a less visible problem. The one people keep noticing is sex workers, who get purged from everywhere they try to build one. Sexual content in general though, has a really hard time existing in the space between restrictive terms of service and the wastelands of pornography spam. Tumblr's dismissive "You can go elsewhere for porn" is emblematic of that, because you really can't find what existed there anywhere else. Communities formed with discussions, support networks, feedback for artists, but because they allowed adult images to be shared it all has to be burned to the ground. Tumblr itself became an unlikely home (the platform is pretty awful) due to being the last place that hadn't done a purge. I'm not going to speak for the LGBT communities because I don't know enough, but a lot of people have been saying they were hit exceptionally hard. Which brings up the other thought, that anything remotely related to sex is always under fire, while it takes massive coordinated efforts to get companies to even make token moves against hate speech. Our priorities in what needs to be policed are skewed. Twitter is the prime example for most people here, with obvious jokes earning bans and obvious nazis being protected by jack himself.
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Why on earth would we ever give food to a beggar who had nuclear missiles pointed at us though. Yes, the US is bad, but Russia is just a threat, not some important geopolitical counterballance. Nah from basically any perspective, the US well and truly hosed up with Russia in the '90s. People were starving and freezing to death in the economic collapse that followed the breakup, and many US officials were practically (and in some cases, literally) cheering it on. Don't forget: Shock Therapy created the oligarchs that became Putin's backers. If the US hadn't actively contributed to the post-Soviet economic doomsday, and if the US had done more to assist the nascent Russian state, global politics would be in a far different and likely better place than they are now.
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Harik posted:While "porn" is the headline here, sex-positive content is the main thing being nuked, with people pointing out the billions of advertising pornbot accounts that don't comply with the rules are still there and the actual communities are gone. Fundamentally, the failing is centralization. We've never found a way to allow people to communicate on the internet without a corporation providing the servers. Be it geocities, myspace, AOL or whoever, the only way to put something out there for the world to see was to rely on someone elses service and their rules, and their obedience to the almighty market. this is a good post to add to it- the current owning company is, i believe, verizon via yahoo. this article: https://twitter.com/CNNBusiness/status/1069774608390414338 suggests that tumblr is unlikely to reverse course on this as the site makes so little money as-is that a mass exodus would go unnoticed by the parent company
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evilweasel posted:if only your parents had made the same choice I only lurk, so take my opinions with a grain of salt. However, I have always considered Evilweasel to be one of the premier posters in this thread, and this post cements it. Well done, goon sir.
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Smeef posted:Something like half of pharma molecular advances come from NIH funding. I’m on my phone so it’s annoying to find a source, but that’s a fact that really stuck with me the first time I read it. This is not really true tbh https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2016/02/02/drugs-purely-from-academia Furnaceface posted:I believe the NHS still does (or used to, who know what the Tories cut) fund the entire process. What the NHS does is absorb healthcare costs of treating patients on academic clinical trials but it's not involved in basic research nor sponsoring trials, which is done by research councils and universities etc. Something industry is better at than academia is running pivotal international studies, its super expensive and logistically difficult.
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evilweasel posted:if only your parents had made the same choice Raising children is worthless to society, in fact it is of negative worth, this much should be obvious by now.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Nah from basically any perspective, the US well and truly hosed up with Russia in the '90s. People were starving and freezing to death in the economic collapse that followed the breakup, and many US officials were practically (and in some cases, literally) cheering it on. Sure, but at the same time, I would be warry of greeting the Russians with open arms as long as they still had nukes. I agree, or did, that we should have done a lot to rebuild them in the 90's. But now they get off to videos on their news of their nukes attacking american soil, so I view them as dimly as I do americans who voted for trump. I wouldn't spend a dime helping a chud who needed it, after all.
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AriadneThread posted:this is a good post Tumblr will be shuttered by the end of 2019. Probably sooner depending on how big the exodus turns out following Dec. 17th.
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Young Freud posted:Tumblr will be shuttered by the end of 2019. Probably sooner depending on how big the exodus turns out following Dec. 17th. I was going to say I have no idea how they lasted this long but I guess I do know now.
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Young Freud posted:TBF, truely an unsung visionary. There's a timeline where lowtax is a web 2.0(?) legendary that gets invited to TED talks, paid to talk even.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Any good books anyone can recommend to get a better perspective on the USSR. I was raised at least partially when they were still a thing and subject to the commies = bad propaganda. But also I'm now as I'm older much less enthused about capitalism. I'm really not able to say whether the fall of the USSR was good or bad and I guess it's a big enough event that I should have an opinion on that. Not a book, but Rocky IV explains it in a very rational and even-toned way. It's kinda gets too fixated on the details that some casual historians might find boring, but overall is a very strong overlook on the whole situation.
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1glitch0 posted:Not a book, but Rocky IV explains it in a very rational and even-toned way. It's kinda gets too fixated on the details that some casual historians might find boring, but overall is a very strong overlook on the whole situation. I'm not sure if this was a sarcastic answer to that other poster's question but when I asked a Russian-American friend of mine, a Jewish refugee no less, about that movie he said its main inaccuracy was that in real life the Russian would be the one training in a barn in the middle of nowhere using wagons and stones.
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Harik posted:While "porn" is the headline here, sex-positive content is the main thing being nuked, with people pointing out the billions of advertising pornbot accounts that don't comply with the rules are still there and the actual communities are gone. Fundamentally, the failing is centralization. We've never found a way to allow people to communicate on the internet without a corporation providing the servers. Be it geocities, myspace, AOL or whoever, the only way to put something out there for the world to see was to rely on someone elses service and their rules, and their obedience to the almighty market. The saddest thing is that way back in the day we were on the right track. NNTP newsgroups (killed by hosted forums, then all social media), IRC (killed by AIM/ICQ/Gchat, killed again by Slack), hell webrings as primitive as they were let nearly anyone contribute to a community if you could get something hosted. Global XMPP messaging federation was possible until Google co-opted and ended it. Broadcasting by publishing RSS feeds ended with Reader, another one attributable to Google.
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trinary posted:The saddest thing is that way back in the day we were on the right track. NNTP newsgroups (killed by hosted forums, then all social media), IRC (killed by AIM/ICQ/Gchat, killed again by Slack), hell webrings as primitive as they were let nearly anyone contribute to a community if you could get something hosted. Global XMPP messaging federation was possible until Google co-opted and ended it. Broadcasting by publishing RSS feeds ended with Reader, another one attributable to Google. Everything you listed as killed is still around for those who want it. Except maybe webrings which were a garbage way of grouping sites with a similar subject together back before there were too many for that to be functional. Feel free to sit around dreaming about gopher, BBSes and door games in your old folk's home. Those are still around too if you want them. What cars did to horses is the real travesty here.
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Lmao my best friend's tumblr is in trouble because of 'adult' content. The content in question is... Pretty Cure! E; And some Sailor Moon
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