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bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies everyone. What are people's top two or three DC stories? Sandman #54, First Issue Special #2, Superman's Girl Friend Lois Lane #73.
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bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies everyone. What are people's top two or three DC stories? Moore/Bisette Swamp Thing and Fourth World (or are those too broad to count as stories?) I'll mention Great Darkness Saga because look at my username
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Dec 5, 2018 01:51
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Random Stranger posted:Sandman #54, First Issue Special #2 When I got rid of my Sandman floppies, that was the one issue I kept. And I genuinely like that Green Team comic. The ending of the pleasure machine story is delightfully bizarre.
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Dec 5, 2018 02:03
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bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies everyone. What are people's top two or three DC stories? Not sure what one of them is, but the other one is The New Frontier.
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Dec 5, 2018 02:05
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I will also throw in my vote for Sandman #54. I will also add almost any issue of Justice League International (aka the BWAHAHAHAHA era, AKA The Seinfeld Era), Starman #34, and Animal Man #5. I've always been more of a Marvel guy. A lot of the DC stuff I love is from sub publishing houses like Vertigo or Wildstorm. I don't hate the core world, and there are some characters I love like Mr.Miracle, Deadman, Martian Manhunter, The Flash, Starman, Blue Beetle, and Guy Gardner. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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Dec 5, 2018 02:14
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Servoret posted:When I got rid of my Sandman floppies, that was the one issue I kept. That was the "genuinely great comic that seems like a joke" pick. Also, it has Wildcat in the story so it's definitely part of DC continuity.  quote:And I genuinely like that Green Team comic. The ending of the pleasure machine story is delightfully bizarre. And that was the "obscure and also really awful" pick. It was a choice between that or Brother Power the Geek.
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Dec 5, 2018 02:20
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Random Stranger posted:And that was the "obscure and also really awful" pick. It was a choice between that or Brother Power the Geek. Which reminds me that Keith Giffen's Ambush Bug comics would be up there in my favorite DC stories list, especially the "History of the DC Universe" issue in the first mini-series where he lists all the characters DC was too embarrassed to put in Who's Who.
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Dec 5, 2018 02:24
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Servoret posted:Which reminds me that Keith Giffen's Ambush Bug comics would be up there in my favorite DC stories list, especially the "History of the DC Universe" issue in the first mini-series where he lists all the characters DC was too embarrassed to put in Who's Who. You'll note that I did not use Ultra the Multi-Alien because he is cool and good.
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Dec 5, 2018 02:29
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bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies everyone. What are people's top two or three DC stories? - Kingdom Come - Batman/Planetary: A Night on Earth - JLA #5: "Woman of Tomorrow"
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Dec 5, 2018 02:53
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bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies everyone. What are people's top two or three DC stories? "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" (Action Comics #775) The "Return of Barry Allen" arc (Flash #73-79) The "Crawling from the Wreckage" arc (Doom Patrol #-19-20)
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Dec 5, 2018 03:21
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TwoPair posted:Up, Up, And Away is the best Superman story ever don't @ me Is that collected somewhere?
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Dec 5, 2018 03:26
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bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies everyone. What are people's top two or three DC stories? Final Crisis JLA: Earth 2 The Multiversity
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Dec 5, 2018 03:32
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Cheap Trick posted:Final Crisis I was going to go Seven Soldiers-Final Crisis-Multiversity for the continuity but I do love Earth 2
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Dec 5, 2018 03:36
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Hitman #34 everybody ought to read. Honestly Hitman's the only Ennis thing I still enjoy.
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Dec 5, 2018 03:42
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Batman year one is still my favourite Batman story. New Frontier is my favourite DC story. Death of Superman is my childhood favourite. It’s got flaws but I love it.
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Dec 5, 2018 04:09
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Schneider Heim posted:Is that collected somewhere? Yeah it's in trade.
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Dec 5, 2018 04:09
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"Coyote Gospel" and Superman and Batman: World's Funnest
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I can’t wait for a Mister Miracle hardcover. I want to see how it holds up in one solid tome. For now, I have to put All Star Superman and Kingdom Come on top. Batman is my favorite character, but I don’t have a favorite Batman story. There’s no definitive Batman to me.
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Dec 5, 2018 05:00
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bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies everyone. What are people's top two or three DC stories? Batman: Year One All-Star Superman
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Dec 5, 2018 05:12
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Is Dark Nights: Metal good and fun? Anything I need to read prior?
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Dec 5, 2018 05:31
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Schneider Heim posted:Is Dark Nights: Metal good and fun? Anything I need to read prior? It is... interesting. It's the kind of ridiculous story that's either gonna make you go "This is awesome", "This is stupid-awesome", or "This is the dumbest poo poo I've ever read". Don't worry, it doesn't take long to get to the point where you'll know which camp you're in. I think all the backstory is fairly well explained in there; it uses concepts from Final Crisis/The Return of Bruce Wayne, but again, explains them/recaps them in simple enough terms that you don't need to go back and read those if you haven't already. The only other thing you really need to know is Darkseid is a baby at the start because of the Justice League storyline Darkseid War. Johns wrote it. It's not good.
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Thanks for the replies. I've been meaning to read more DC stuff. What about non DC/Marvel stuff. Saga is supposed to be good.
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bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies everyone. What are people's top two or three DC stories? Flash: Return of Barry Allen Superman: The Man of Steel #1-6
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I am perturbed the The Return of Barry Allen existing and also the current DC Universe that we have. Like....did they not understand the lesson?
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Dec 5, 2018 16:19
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Return of Barry is probably the best moment of Waids run on the book.
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bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies. I've been meaning to read more DC stuff. What about non DC/Marvel stuff. Saga is supposed to be good. Sex Criminals TMNT (Mirage or IDW) A Contract With God Curse Words Maus Major Bummer (Technically DC since they own Wildstorm) Astro City has technically been DC for a while but dont let that stop you its amazing Hellboy Chew Bone Concrete Usage Yojimbo East of West Criminal The Tick Powers (originally an Image book) El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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SonicRulez posted:I am perturbed the The Return of Barry Allen existing and also the current DC Universe that we have. Like....did they not understand the lesson? You're probably thinking of a later story. The Return of Barry Allen isn't actually about the return of Barry Allen. bessantj posted:Thanks for the replies. I've been meaning to read more DC stuff. What about non DC/Marvel stuff. Saga is supposed to be good. I'm enjoying The Wicked + The Divine. Casanova.
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Rhyno posted:Return of Barry is probably the best moment of Waids run on the book. Somebody said that story was the only Flash story I needed to read. There's a strong argument for it.
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Dec 5, 2018 20:32
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Dawgstar posted:Somebody said that story was the only Flash story I needed to read. There's a strong argument for it. The problem with that is it's a meta-story. The Return of Barry Allen depends on the reader knowing and caring about who Barry Allen is, why his death is a big deal, and how Wally has been dealing with it (though on that last point, I think Waid does a good job of selling the concept). It's deeply embedded in almost ten years of continuity at the point it was published. It would be like saying "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" is the only Superman story you need to read; yes, it's extremely good but it also is building on foundational understandings of the characters. The best thing about Return of Barry Allen is that it doesn't stand on its own. The severely underrated except by cool but extremely nerdy people Messner-Loebs run on The Flash was a five year long story about Wally trying to figure out how to replace Barry (that story about Wally trying to find bullets in a dark movie theater was Messner-Loebs; so was the story about Wally jumping out of a passenger jet and trying to figure out how to save a stewardess on the way down). So Waid made his second story arc on the book (after the then mandatory "Year One" story) the climax to that. The Return of Barry Allen is the best example of how long running continuity can be used well.
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It also gave us the revamp of Max Mercury, the best speedster.
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Random Stranger posted:The best thing about Return of Barry Allen is that it doesn't stand on its own. The severely underrated except by cool but extremely nerdy people Messner-Loebs run on The Flash was a five year long story about Wally trying to figure out how to replace Barry (that story about Wally trying to find bullets in a dark movie theater was Messner-Loebs; so was the story about Wally jumping out of a passenger jet and trying to figure out how to save a stewardess on the way down). So Waid made his second story arc on the book (after the then mandatory "Year One" story) the climax to that. The Return of Barry Allen is the best example of how long running continuity can be used well. Yeah, Waid always used to say his favourite Flash writer was Bill Messner-Loebs. But at the same time, a lot of the Mike Baron / Messner-Loebs supporting cast (Tina McGee, Chunk etc.) and even most of the Rogues don't really appear in Waid's run.
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Waid didn't really like the classic Rogues. If you recall he killed them off in Underworld Unleashed and was later ordered to bring them back.
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Rhyno posted:Waid didn't really like the classic Rogues. If you recall he killed them off in Underworld Unleashed and was later ordered to bring them back. I'm slowly making my way through Waid's Flash on Hoopla, reading most of it for the first time. What did he have against the Rogues, do you know? I love those guys.
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Skwirl posted:You're probably thinking of a later story. The Return of Barry Allen isn't actually about the return of Barry Allen. That is what I said, yes. I'm upset because later, Barry Allen actually did return. He should not have.
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SonicRulez posted:That is what I said, yes. I'm upset because later, Barry Allen actually did return. He should not have. Ahh, I misunderstood your post.
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Best DC stuff to read according to Madkal: New Frontier Kingdom Come Batman: Year One Batman: Cult Swamp Thing by Moore Swamp Thing by Soule Flash by Waid Green Arrow by Grell Green Arrow by Lemire Suicide Squad by Ostrander Spectre by Ostrander Catwoman by Brubaker Gotham Central by Rucka/Brubaker
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I'm slowly making my way through Waid's Flash on Hoopla, reading most of it for the first time. What did he have against the Rogues, do you know? I love those guys. I don't know. Waid is a huge trivia nerd and loves the weird bits of comics, so I don't know why he doesn't really care for the classic Flash rogues. Personally, I put them up there with Batman and Spider-man's enemies for fun even back to the silver age. SonicRulez posted:That is what I said, yes. I'm upset because later, Barry Allen actually did return. He should not have. When Waid's first Christmas issue came out, my comic book source handed the issue to me and said, "Don't turn to the last page." "Why?" I said, flipping immediately to that. Then, "WHAT THE HELL?! HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT!!" I was mad enough to write a letter. And then the story turned out great. Johns does not have that defense.
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Random Stranger posted:The problem with that is it's a meta-story. The Return of Barry Allen depends on the reader knowing and caring about who Barry Allen is, why his death is a big deal, and how Wally has been dealing with it (though on that last point, I think Waid does a good job of selling the concept). It's deeply embedded in almost ten years of continuity at the point it was published. It would be like saying "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" is the only Superman story you need to read; yes, it's extremely good but it also is building on foundational understandings of the characters. It was my first Flash story. Worked out pretty well. I had some basic concept of who Barry was, how he died and all that, but I'd never read a full Flash story before.
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Dawgstar posted:It was my first Flash story. Worked out pretty well. I had some basic concept of who Barry was, how he died and all that, but I'd never read a full Flash story before. And if you did you would wonder why anyone would want him back
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I think Waid just thought it was time for new villains or something.
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