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Does the game have the yellow turban rebellion though, along with great buttrock tunes?
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Yellow Turbans are pre-order, even then they're a remnants force since the game starts at the Coalition against Dong Zhuo.
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Bloodly posted:It'll depend on the troops selection. I mean, there's obviously going to be some shared troops, possibly many. But I imagine each leader will bring some unique troops beyond themselves. Will lighter bandit troops be a plus or a minus? It looks like we'll get faction-specific units (Xu Huang's reinforcements in that battle included a pair of Heavy Tiger & Leopard Cavalry units) but based on the EGX 2018 video the highest-tier units of a given unit type are exclusive to the corresponding Hero class; for Zheng Jiang (Champion) that's spear infantry, and if Lu Zheng's a Strategist (she has the generic-Strategist pose and blue robe) then for her it's archers. -Dethstryk- posted:Also I need to play as this bandit queen in Three Kingdoms right now, please Blooming Brilliant posted:Yellow Turbans are pre-order, even then they're a remnants force since the game starts at the Coalition against Dong Zhuo.
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Dec 5, 2018 04:39
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Yellow Turbans are definitely a faction that would be a good fit with something like the Shogun II Ikko-Ikki faction's rebellion mechanic.
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drat I can't stand preordering games though. Oh well, Love me some Dynasty Warriors, even if this is insanely different.
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Dec 5, 2018 05:03
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Rockopolis posted:Yellow Turbans are definitely a faction that would be a good fit with something like the Shogun II Ikko-Ikki faction's rebellion mechanic. Moonshine Rhyme posted:drat I can't stand preordering games though. Oh well, Love me some Dynasty Warriors, even if this is insanely different.
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Dec 5, 2018 05:10
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Moonshine Rhyme posted:drat I can't stand preordering games though. Oh well, Love me some Dynasty Warriors, even if this is insanely different. I'm pretty sure with all of CA's pre-order DLC/bonuses now, you can buy it up to 1 week after release and still get them.
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Dec 5, 2018 07:39
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All preorder bonus DLC is always available separately on release.
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Azran posted:All preorder bonus DLC is always available separately on release. What I mean is that you still get the pre-order DLC for free if you buy it within 1 week of release.
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Dec 5, 2018 10:19
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Ragingsheep posted:What I mean is that you still get the pre-order DLC for free if you buy it within 1 week of release. Oh, yes. Sorry, I completely misread your post. 
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Dec 5, 2018 10:31
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I really hope CA goes back to the gunpowder era sometime. There are loads of colonial wars that would make the Indian Ocean theater ripe for gameplay. The race for Africa would also be fun, if thematically horrific.
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Yeah I think that latter part makes that whole idea unlikely. Along the same lines, a ton of people have been calling for a game set in the Opium Wars/Taipei Rebellion period now that we're getting a China game, but I dunno how keen CA will be to touch one of the most sensitive parts of Chinese history after going to all this effort to cultivate an audience there. fun as the games would otherwise be
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I'm just excited to hear what the soundtrack for 3K will be like.
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African imperialism would be made or broken for me by having fun and viable africans to play as. Wargames loves making the zulu, the mahdists, or for more a more modern example the NVA, basically anyone who fought against the western empires, into weak, poorly fleshed out OPFOR for the glorious euros to shoot at. So you’ll have 3 total units on the zulu side and 25 different variations of 67th Royal Bumfoucksestershire Fusiliers- Line Company on the british side. That’s both lame and skeevy.
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I'd trust CA to do it respectfully more than lots of other companies, but I don't think there's any way to do it where it won't just turn into the next neo nazi magnet. If someone's gonna do an Africa game, and, I mean, I hope they do at some point, I'd much rather see a different period, or at least so colonialism is not the focus.
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Dec 6, 2018 02:36
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Yeah I'm not really sure there's a tasteful way to make a strategy game about the European colonial powers raping a continent.
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Only way it'd happen if they played it loose in Empire 2 and gave those African nations a chance to westernize and turn the tables now.
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I’ve made this post a bunch of times but I’m gonna keep saying it: a Napoleon style South America map for Rise of the Caudillos
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Dec 6, 2018 02:49
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The next Saga game should be the US civil war and should only have the north as a playable faction.
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Dec 6, 2018 02:53
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I remember every time I played Empire the Marathas would unite all of India, become the strongest country in the world, and invade Europe. So a scramble for Africa scenario could work, provided it gives Africans the opportunity to dunk on the imperialists.
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Played some custom Empire battles tonight. Naval battles with five ships apiece or less are really fun and more engaging than FOTS naval fights because the maps are smaller and the enemy actually want to fight. The only problem is the game hates you and will always deploy you against the wind so your opponent pretty much always has the weather gauge.
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Dec 6, 2018 05:35
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Total War: Victoria. The known world is being overrun by invaders from across the sea, converging from every direction, armed with arcane weapons, riding strange beasts. Can you marshall your armies and weather the storm?
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Gobblecoque posted:I remember every time I played Empire the Marathas would unite all of India, become the strongest country in the world, and invade Europe. So a scramble for Africa scenario could work, provided it gives Africans the opportunity to dunk on the imperialists. At launch yeah, but then CA simultaneously nerfed them by both making controlling all the tea no longer give you more money than the game engine could handle, and by also removing all the firing techs from Bargir Infantry (i.e. could no longer fire by rank, which massively cut their firepower). But before all the patches, it was easier to become the absolute richest nation by far, your line infantry was just as good as the Europeans, and you had better cavalry and artillery. It was awesome.
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Frog Act posted:I’ve made this post a bunch of times but I’m gonna keep saying it: a Napoleon style South America map for Rise of the Caudillos Hell yeah total war Bolivar would kick ads. Ex slave cowboy lancer hordes fighting in jungle mountains
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I know that total war isn't really designed to handle guerrilla warfare but I'd like to see them try using mixed units and wider spacing for guerrilla units in future titles. Infantry rectangles are fine but they don't lend themselves very well to smaller scale conflicts. It's one of the several reasons that warpath suuuuuuucks. When are the Wendat or Iroquois ever going to engage in an open field battle with Europeans.
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they kinda have it, like the ninjas that can sneak up in shogun or the ambush battles in rome 2, but they havent gone all out on it.
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Voyager I posted:Yeah I'm not really sure there's a tasteful way to make a strategy game about the European colonial powers raping a continent. They kinda pulled it off with the Americas campaign from Medivial 2 imo.
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they've made 2 games about a culture that forcibly erased other cultures through conquest. a culture that dragged defeated enemy citizens to their capital and paraded and slaughtered them at the foot of their patron god as a minor part of an enormous celebration of the dudes leading genocides. a celebration that the rest of the known world was outraged about as being extremely, ridiculously cruel. the only difference is that was a long rear end time ago. its entirely posible for them to make a tasteful game in colonial era america, much like you can make a tasteful game in other time periods. underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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underage at the vape shop posted:they've made 2 games about a culture that forcibly erased other cultures through conquest. a culture that dragged defeated enemy citizens to their capital and paraded and slaughtered them at the foot of their patron god as a minor part of an enormous celebration of the dudes leading genocides. a celebration that the rest of the known world was outraged about as being extremely, ridiculously cruel. the only difference is that was a long rear end time ago. there are some critical contextual differences re: the things being represented in games about ancient rome and games about more recent history
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Arcsquad12 posted:I know that total war isn't really designed to handle guerrilla warfare but I'd like to see them try using mixed units and wider spacing for guerrilla units in future titles. Infantry rectangles are fine but they don't lend themselves very well to smaller scale conflicts. It's one of the several reasons that warpath suuuuuuucks. When are the Wendat or Iroquois ever going to engage in an open field battle with Europeans. Warhammer has the best mobile skirmishers of any title, I think. The mechanics that say, wood elf units on the battlefield (move while shooting, 360 degree firing arc, loose blob formation, can hide in open terrain) would work historically, imo. They're not over-thetop magical but mechanics a real guerilla unit could use. The only big difference would be the moving and shooting with black powder weapons, they'd be slower and need more complex coding for a "shoot, reload, move, shoot" cycle for each guy slowly moving in a given direction vs the wood elves who can just legolas around running and loosing arrows. underage at the vape shop posted:they've made 2 games about a culture that forcibly erased other cultures through conquest. a culture that dragged defeated enemy citizens to their capital and paraded and slaughtered them at the foot of their patron god as a minor part of an enormous celebration of the dudes leading genocides. a celebration that the rest of the known world was outraged about as being extremely, ridiculously cruel. the only difference is that was a long rear end time ago. I don't wanna get too political in the TW thread but there is a bit of a difference. In 2018 we still have people who think black people are inferior to whites and that colonialism was good. We don't have roman patricians conquering places for political power or perso-hellenic supremacists executing latins in the streets. We're also still very tangibly influenced by the european imperial period of 1492-??? whereas no one today can say that their relative was dragged through Washington in chains for a triumph. This makes it touchier to a lot of people. It's not perfectly beep boop dweeeoooooop rational to be fine playing Genghis Khan but not Bush when both involve doing horrible war crimes in Iraq, but it's understandable.
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It's a delicate subject so essentially give everyone more or less the same tools to go for with a tech tree at 1700 and sit back and watch the dickery. The alternate history aspect of these games are the most fascinating.
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I definitely think there's a tasteful, acceptable way to do it. Theres no outrage about all the fps games set in the recent middle eastern conflicts, csgo is even an esport, and the fighting there is still a current event. Its a touchier time period sure, but I dont think its untouchable. underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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Koramei posted:I'd trust CA to do it respectfully more than lots of other companies, but I don't think there's any way to do it where it won't just turn into the next neo nazi magnet. Edgar Allen Ho posted:I don't wanna get too political in the TW thread but there is a bit of a difference. In 2018 we still have people who think black people are inferior to whites and that colonialism was good. We don't have roman patricians conquering places for political power or perso-hellenic supremacists executing latins in the streets. underage at the vape shop posted:I definitely think there's a tasteful, acceptable way to do it. Theres no outrage about all the fps games set in the recent middle eastern conflicts, csgo is even an esport, and the fighting there is still a current event.
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turn off the TV posted:The next Saga game should be the US civil war and should only have the north as a playable faction. They should have Coloured Regiments as the highest tier elite infantry
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quote:You may’ve noticed in our recent diplomacy video a few frames of the faction rank screen. Ranking plays an important role in your rise to ultimate power in ancient China, and directly informs how the end game begins to play out in Total War: THREE KINGDOMS. https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-november-2018
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I still hope for 1453 - 1699 campaign in Europe. Lots of cool and mainstream conflicts, a lot of less known. Rise of empires, and progress from feudal to professional armies. A lot of new ideas from ThroB and TW:RotK would fit there.
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Dec 6, 2018 19:57
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Or just skip all of that with the Imperial Seal and get steamrolled. Still, interesting to see that it takes three self-proclamations before Xian abdicates, while controlling him isn't a formal requirement for any of the three... and while someone could control Xian without self-proclaiming and go to war 'on Xian's behalf' with the self-proclaimed emperors, is there an endgame for someone who doesn't self-proclaim?
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underage at the vape shop posted:the only difference is that was a long rear end time ago. this is a really significant difference fyi
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Empire had the native American campaign which I remember was really fun. Autoresolve hosed you over though, but it was my first taste of having entire armies that were based around ambushes and avoiding a straight up fight.
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people would probably get mad if they did a colonialism total war but people also get mad when they put women into their other titles, people get mad when Serbia isn't correctly represented, people get mad when ships have the wrong guns and people get mad that orcs aren't real. id play it though.
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