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Apologies for getting too far off the topic of the music, but it's always fun to point out when Japanese media has no idea what it's doing by co-opting Jewish symbology and figures. "Satan" in the case of Samael is very much not the "fallen angel/Lucifer" type thing! It's Hebrew for "accuser". Rabbinic Judaism essentially posits that there's a heavenly court (though semi-metaphorical) and angels actively prosecute and defend human beings before God, the judge (and jury, and perhaps executioner if you've really hosed up). Rather than being a fallen angel, Samael's job as "satan" is basically to act as prosecutor, in the sense of laying out an individual's sins and failures.
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Well, he does make a lot of claims about the country having faults, at least. They do feel a bit like throwaway comments, though.
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You know, for all the faults this game has, at least they knew where to put effort into things and the fight with Shadow
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GeneX posted:Apologies for getting too far off the topic of the music, but it's always fun to point out when Japanese media has no idea what it's doing by co-opting Jewish symbology and figures. I think it works in that Samael was chosen to perform the role of being an rear end in a top hat. Much like Shido himself believes that he was chosen by God.
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In general they are good about the difference between Lucifer and Satan in the main series.
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Didn't we have like three versions of Satan in Persona 3?
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Ken wasn't that bad.
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Omobono posted:Didn't we have like three versions of Satan in Persona 3? Persona 3 had Lucifer, and Satan, and the FES and portable versions also added Helel (Pre-fall Lucifer) as separate personas. Terper posted:Ken wasn't that bad. 
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Lol I thought that was going to be the song by Eminem. This is fine too.
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Stroth posted:Persona 3 had Lucifer, and Satan, and the FES and portable versions also added Helel (Pre-fall Lucifer) as separate personas. funny thing was Helel was Lucifer in pre-FES version, they basically moved him to the Star arcana, and then added the more demonic/ugly version and did a name swap. They also got right of the persona-fusion attacks as they were absolute gamebreakers (Lucifer + Satan's combo basically one-shots the Reaper and any one of Nyx's Phases)
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Robindaybird posted:They also got right of the persona-fusion attacks as they were absolute gamebreakers (Lucifer + Satan's combo basically one-shots the Reaper and any one of Nyx's Phases) What? Armageddon is till in the extended versions, and it's still broken as hell. (Spend all of your SP in exchange for enough damage to one shot anything* sounds almost like a fair trade, except that one of the required persona learns Victory Cry. Which restores your HP and SP to full after every battle. * Except the final boss (can only kill one phase at a time) and the secret bragging rights boss (She'll actually respond by healing herself to full and continuously one shotting your entire party until you die. Persona secret bosses don't put up with cheaty bullshit, you gonna fight them the hard way or not at all.)
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I believe he's thinking of P3P and not FES, the former of which switched fusion spells to items.
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Also I made some edits to the OP to... better reflect the tone of this LP. The "gee whiz, what a fun time this will be!" first paragraph hasn't really suited this for quite a while.
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she. And yeah, probably - it's been a while since I play P3 in any version.
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Robindaybird posted:she. Noted. Hard to get out of the mindset that everyone on the internet is male by default, d'oh.
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Hey, thanks a ton for this LP. I just marathoned it for the last few days, and it's really really good. e: though i did skip through all the schtick, sorry arist
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Here's a secret (not game spoilers): I started doing the shtick because I felt like I wasn't doing enough, especially in the dungeon sections, which are hell to edit and don't give me much to actually do or work with. I eventually got over this, which is why it became much less intrusive the last few times, but it was more a means to keep myself entertained and assuage my own "guilt." I know it's stupid, and I don't begrudge anyone who skips through it.
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I did enjoy what you did with the third dungeon.
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Arist posted:Here's a secret (not game spoilers): I started doing the shtick because I felt like I wasn't doing enough, especially in the dungeon sections, which are hell to edit and don't give me much to actually do or work with. I eventually got over this, which is why it became much less intrusive the last few times, but it was more a means to keep myself entertained and assuage my own "guilt." I know it's stupid, and I don't begrudge anyone who skips through it. Next you're going to tell me your little brother didn't actually help with the LP! 
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Arist posted:Here's a secret (not game spoilers): I started doing the shtick because I felt like I wasn't doing enough, especially in the dungeon sections, which are hell to edit and don't give me much to actually do or work with. I eventually got over this, which is why it became much less intrusive the last few times, but it was more a means to keep myself entertained and assuage my own "guilt." I know it's stupid, and I don't begrudge anyone who skips through it. Oh no, it's totally fine and makes sense, just not for me. I can't blame you for trying to spice some of these long dungeon segments up. Especially now that I've gotten to mementos in my own game  That song will stay with me for the rest of my life
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Arist's Slow Descent into Insanity: Let's Play Persona 5 [SSLP]
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I actually liked the gimmicky stuff with the possible exception of the recreations near the end of the spaceport. That felt a bit much. But it's still miles better than anything I did during my lovely unfinished Last Scenario LP, so yeah. holy gently caress that was six years ago what the poo poo 
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Arist, don't worry about it too much. There were points where I might not have gone for the gimmick, but my dude, this is one of the best SSLPs I've enjoyed here, which are the very reason I joined after binging Baldurk's archive site forever Thanks my dude. This has been a wild drat ride but I've enjoyed it. I'll easily be looking forward to anything else you end up doing here
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This is a good LP of a good game don't worry about it.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:This is a good LP of a good game don't worry about it. 
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:This is a good LP of a good game don't worry about it.
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As someone who loathes gimmicks and whatnot, you made it pretty clear where it started and where it ended so I simply scrolled past Wasn't a big deal either way and if you had fun that's all there is to it.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:This is a good LP of a good game don't worry about it.
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Arist posted:Also I made some edits to the OP to... better reflect the tone of this LP. The "gee whiz, what a fun time this will be!" first paragraph hasn't really suited this for quite a while. 
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I thought you did gimmicks right. This game feels right for that kind of thing anyway. This has been a fun ride and I'm trying to forget that I'll need to follow a new thread eventually. Just as someone who was only reading, I thought the thread was totally into it.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:This is a good LP of a good game don't worry about it. 
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I thought the gimmicks were really fun! Something else to consider: whatever gets you through the dungeons without abandoning the LP is Good.
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Leraika posted:I thought the gimmicks were really fun!
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there's nothing like chaining yourself to a property for years to make you utterly sick of it whatever helps keep you interested, man i don't have a ps4 so i appreciate that i don't have to completely 'miss out' on five
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Leraika posted:I thought the gimmicks were really fun! Hey look at this post that is basically my opinion from earlier but put so much goddamn better! 
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If you get all your games for free, maybe.
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Hello y’all! I happen to have a friend who worked on Persona 5! Specifically, (in addition to some other stuff) they were in charge of localizing all the parts where you read internet posts and comments! Since a lot of the Japanese stuff was 2ch.net-type references and memes and mannerisms that wouldn’t make much sense, they had their work cut out for them coming up with lines that would be appropriate for an English-speaking audience more familiar with the English-speaking side of the internet. They were curious what y’all thought of that part of the game!
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FAT BATMAN posted:Hello y’all! I happen to have a friend who worked on Persona 5! probably one of the only parts of it that sounded remotely natural, so kudos to them
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I might have bought Dancing Star Night. And maybe the Yakuza DLC. Embarrassingly it took me a minute to realize why Makoto got Taiga's costume. More importantly: loving love Fiona Apple posted:This is a good LP of a good game don't worry about it. -- FAT BATMAN posted:Hello y’all! I happen to have a friend who worked on Persona 5! I thought it came off well. God knows I'm sure they had their work cut out for them.
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