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VitalSigns posted:So is that a good idea too, since the Romans did it. No, but your flippant comment was a non sequitur anyway since my point was even when life expectancy was like 50 people in general didn't want young rulers, and historically young rulers have led to a lot of real dumb loving poo poo happening. As for bad experice, don't vote for people with bad proven track records then. But no experience means you are only trusting their words. Anyone can say the right things, and Trump is exactly the reason why just taking someone at their word with no proof of their ability is a very bad idea. I carry water for Tammy Duckworth all the time because I think her resume proves she has integrity and will keep her word on promises. I think it proves that while she is flawed she would not interfere with laws more progressive than she is and I think she can beat Trump. We know her flaws and her strengths and she has proven to be consistent in behaving according to them. I can't say that about AOC yet since none of us know how she does at actually getting laws passed. I think she will kick rear end and take names, but she also could just be slick with social media and fall on her face in committees and negotiating with fellow lawmakers, including other Dems. In general, as in making wide ranging rules regarding the most powerful person in the country, erring on the side of caution is a wise move. For every genuine legislative savant you'll have a monorail salesman.
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Iron Twinkie posted:It also assumes a lot that people Don't also forget wage stagnation as it relations to inflation. By the time you and I retire, even if we've saved, the cost of living will mean it'll get you an extra pudding pack a day in your government poor house. My plan is to take my bag of pennies to some 3rd world hellhole where I can live like a king until the locals violently murder and dismember me.
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Andrast posted:Wait, you think Hillary was a huge hit among the democratic base? Just using it as a case of not thinking poo poo through. Base favorite or not, she had like hands down a growing win but fumbled it because she did little to no campaigning in the rust belt, had that email bullshit to deal with, and tried to play morality in politics without really inspiring anyone beyond just being the less lovely pile of poo poo.
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I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. Is it "we hate Jews, but we hate brown people even more, so we'll support ethnically-white Jews as they partake in ethnic cleansing"?
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i thought the murder of 11 jews in their house of worship might've stopped this but i was a bit too naive.
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. Also Jesus was a jew
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. No it's "we hate Jews but the Bible says they have to be there before the rapture will occur. PLACES EVERYONE!" VVV 
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. Israel needs to be around for the rapture.
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. I think they see Israel as stewards of the holy land until Jesus comes back, at which point they would turn on them in a second.
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. I think it works like Germany and Russia in the late 30's. They ally to take out the common enemy, then when that enemy is gone Republicans turn on the Jews and we get a revisit to the rest of the first five years of the 40's
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. If they are from the Evangelical wing, it's because all the Jews going back to Israel is a prerequisite for the apocalypse where Jesus comes back (and also all the Jews are killed).
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Iron Twinkie posted:and yeah echoing that the phase "skin in the game" makes my blood pressure spike and fills my head with visions of guillotines. How do you guys feel about Nassim Taleb? I think he's the reason why that phrase has gotten more popular to say when it comes to economic policy issues.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1070727611247194116 They found him
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I would argue that GOP support if Israel isn't intended to garner Jewish votes.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Also Roses are red Violets are bluish Never forget Jesus was Jewish -- Chappy Chanukkah everyone!
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Also I always bring up the fact to all the religious chuds that if Jesus tried to get into the country today as a brown, Middle-Eastern Jew, Trump probably wouldn't let him in and they get so pissed. They've never once had a counter for it, however. Also that Jesus gave free healthcare and to the best of my knowledge never threw kids in cages.
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. They believe that, when the End Times come, the Israelis will see Jesus as the true messiah and convert to Christianity. Jokes on them, Jesus will come back as a Muslim.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I hate the phrase "skin in the game". It's not a game and we all have our asses on the line. The only people with mere "skin" at risk are those rich enough to consider everyone else's lives a "game".  Ok, how about this: poor people that worked to save what they could in a 401k or IRA actually have more at stake than anyone else in the stock market, comparative to their overall assets, and it’s belittling to shrug anyone that isn’t a HENRY off as otherwise.
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. A lot of ethno-nationalism's explicit stance is "we get this land, you get that land." Hell, that was the Nazi stance until the final solution. The logic inevitably ends in genocide, but it typically doesn't start there.
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. It's really very simple: Jews are the undefined people who are holding them back. Israel is a big strong slightly-browner-people killer. Don't put much thought into it because they sure don't.
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ZypherIM posted:You mean a McRib. Oh come ON. How shameless can you be?
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Rynoto posted:It's really very simple: Jews are the undefined people who are holding them back. Israel is a big strong slightly-browner-people killer. Don't put much thought into it because they sure don't. It's the Apocalypse poo poo more than anything else. They are still nonbelievers who arerejecting god, but isreal's existence is a requirement for the second coming
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Your Taint posted:I always bring up the fact to all the religious chuds that if Jesus tried to get into the country today as a brown, Middle-Eastern Jew, Trump probably wouldn't let him in and they get so pissed. They've never once had a counter for it, however. My favorite parable of Jesus is the only one where Jesus kills something, because its about murdering people who dont give back to the system which helped them.
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KillHour posted:Oh come ON. How shameless can you be? You should know by now that there's no bottom for these people
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Rynoto posted:It's really very simple: Jews are the undefined people who are holding them back. Israel is a big strong slightly-browner-people killer. Don't put much thought into it because they sure don't. Flip Yr Wig posted:A lot of ethno-nationalism's explicit stance is "we get this land, you get that land." Hell, that was the Nazi stance until the final solution. The logic inevitably ends in genocide, but it typically doesn't start there. I think it is a lot more a combination of these things, and maybe viewing it as similar to a nostalgic view of the crusades and inertia from when we felt bad about the holocaust and made Israel in the first place. The amount of people who actual are on the "the jews need to be in israel for the end-times" is not large, nor the driving force for the GOP. Also they buy a poo poo-ton of weapons from us, and pretty much always are willing to back us as long as we're ok letting them keep murdering non-jews.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Z_Everson/status/1070680329957109760 Drain the swamp quote:On the day Donald Trump became president of the United States, while inauguration festivities were still in full swing, he officially launched his 2020 reelection campaign. Donations poured in from more than 50,000 people across the country. quote:According to federal filings, the Trump 2020 campaign has paid Trump Plaza LLC at least $42,000 in rent since November 2017–but, according to Forbes, there doesn’t appear to be any campaign activity occurring on any such property owned by the entity.
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this rules. https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/1070731970626240512
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eviltastic posted:Speaking of, I think Joe Manchin may be genuinely worried about party pushback to him gunning for the top slot on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee. It will actually be interesting to see how Manchin votes going forward. His seat is now pretty much secure for the next 6 years so he has a lot more latitude in how he votes than he did going into 2018.
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Brony Car posted:How do you guys feel about Nassim Taleb? I think he's the reason why that phrase has gotten more popular to say when it comes to economic policy issues. Never heard of him. Some quick googling seems to indicate that he uses the term to refer to capital and political elites that don't face any repercussions for their actions which is very different from how it is typically used.
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People are giving the GOP too much credit in referring to evangelical biblical justifications for supporting Israel. The GOP is at this point a spite-golem that instinctively takes the position that liberals hate. Liberal groups call out the apartheid situation that Israel has concocted and suggest not sending Israel money-> GOP position becomes "give Israel all the money with no conditions".
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Rynoto posted:It's really very simple: Jews are the undefined people who are holding them back. Israel is a big strong slightly-browner-people killer. Don't put much thought into it because they sure don't. It seems that way, but it really isn't. I can only speak about Evangelicals, who massively voted for Trump but- It is the belief of that American sect of Christianity that a war in the holy land will precipitate the second coming of Christ. E- PJ actually knows a hell of alot more than me about this, given her studies/experiences in culty weirdness. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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あなたがすべての人間を殺そうとするなら、あなたは人間の間で普及しないだろう
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Z_Everson/status/1070680329957109760
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i really don't understand why trump can in essence charge himself.
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https://twitter.com/ocasio2018/status/1070735202031423488?s=21 I wonder if that’s for the entire freshman class, or just the Democrats Also I wonder who’s responsible for setting it up Edit: drat you Groovelord Neto
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twice burned ice posted:I'm not sure I fully understand how the GOP's modern white nationalism and their unwavering support for Israel can be reconciled. Israel's founders spent WW2 putting bombs in trash cans to catch limey troops unawares, wrote fanmail to hitler saying that they're the good ones, and are currently conducting a genocide in order to steal land. Most importantly, they're over there killing brown people. mik posted:I think they see Israel as stewards of the holy land until Jesus comes back, at which point they would turn on them in a second. Rynoto posted:It's really very simple: Jews are the undefined people who are holding them back. Israel is a big strong slightly-browner-people killer. Don't put much thought into it because they sure don't.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Z_Everson/status/1070680329957109760 Trumps brands are so toxic that once his presidential grift is over his companies are going to implode spectacularly. Don Jr is also telling people he about to be indicted, apparently.
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Holy crap pro click here Also AOC still pointing out bullshit https://twitter.com/ocasio2018/status/1070735202031423488?s=21 Edit: gently caress Groove 
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Skex posted:The age restriction exists because despite what the young want to believe there is a general correlation between age, experience and maturity. Sure it's not uniform some younger people are more mature and experienced than older and as the Orange Traitor clearly demonstrates age does not guarantee maturity. But the age restrictions exist for the same reason that age restrictions exist for most privileges. The reason the age of consent for example is older than the age of sexual maturity is because as a society we recognize that there are real differences in the cognitive abilities of children and adults and that just because a childs body has developed secondary sex characteristics does not mean that they have the emotional maturity and experience to avoid blatant manipulation by older more experienced predators. No it's because 200+ years ago a bunch of olds decided that people under 35 knew nothing. Because they grew up in a world where things changed very slowly and old people had something to teach as opposed to our world where old people are just set in obsolete ways. The same people who thought that women and minorities also didn't know anything.
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