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Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


DizzyBum posted:

These people are the worst. "Just do this! It's that simple!!"

It's almost never that simple, and also, :fuckoff:

It's particularly bad when you're having to design something for use by *literally an entire country* and every jackass sorry valued citizen can email us in all caps about whatever's rustled their jimmies that day.


Is it? Are they back on topic now?

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Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013




I've seen this multiple times before, yet it infuriates me every time.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



MF_James posted:

My friend, you must find the adventure of groverhaus, I honestly don't remember it super well but it's an amalgamation of being cheap, stupid and a massive failure. I think part of it involves a pool in the basement.

The basement pool was a completely different group of stupidity.

You may be thinking of wading in sewage for groverhaus.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
Holy loving poo poo what a ride that thread was. Well worth my time.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Proteus Jones posted:

The basement pool was a completely different group of stupidity.

You may be thinking of wading in sewage for groverhaus.

Yeah, you're right, they all kind of blend together when you've gone through 600+ pages of bad construction stuff.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
Ticket comes in: Email isn't working.

Alright that's weird. Yeah check that out mine just disconnected as well. Ask the Exchange guy what's up with the Exchange server.

"Oh one of the datastores just unmounted. It should be back up soon."

?????????????

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Renegret posted:

e: and as an aside, I don't care if the god drat CEO has a service outage, he should have to call customer service just like everyone else.

If he doesn't like the service that he gets going through the same channels as our customers, then maybe he should do something about that and stop cutting and outsourcing staff.

This is one of the biggest CLMs you can make. Yes, your CEO should go through helpdesk like everyone else. Yes he should realize it Sucks and work to improve it. But they won’t and they wont.

Are you really using this incident to improve helpdesk operations for you company or are you just being pissy?

The CEO, by throwing out that bullshit line, is telling you that they think their poo poo don’t stink and that they are better than everyone else. By denying them that, you are now hitting them straight in the ego and that cannot stand.

You have now put yourself cleanly on their poo poo-list and you better believe that would come back to haunt you.

If you had jumped in to help, the head of the goddamn company would have seen you as a dependable, solid, capable employee. And who doesn’t want that?

Instead you hurt your career.

YOTJ. Now.

Agrikk fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Dec 6, 2018

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
There's a time to give a bigwig what they want to make a problem go away, and there's a time to spank them, this sounds solidly like the latter.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



gently caress all CEOs.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


It's not clear to me that Renegret meant "goddamned CEO" literally, and if not, that puts a rather different construction on things.

Depending on the size of the company, it doesn't always make sense for senior leadership to have the same process as everyone else. If I was running a multinational, I'd set up a frickin' IT concierge service for the C-level executives. Partially that's because their time is insanely valuable and I wouldn't want them waiting on hold, and partially because anyone touching their IT assets needs to know that their daily activities create documents with special legal status. Having them run into some IT intern who decides to wipe and reimage their laptop could be... bad. Having a C-level decide that IT isn't responsive enough and they need their own shadow IT would be infinitely worse.

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


ChubbyThePhat posted:

Ticket comes in: Email isn't working.

Alright that's weird. Yeah check that out mine just disconnected as well. Ask the Exchange guy what's up with the Exchange server.

"Oh one of the datastores just unmounted. It should be back up soon."

?????????????

Today I finally finished permanently deleting 770,000+ e-mails that were hanging out in my Deleted Items folder, it took four weeks but I can finally use my full outlook client instead of outlook.office.com. I'm sure my Exchange admins will take me off of their hit list any moment now.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Nth Doctor posted:

Today I finally finished permanently deleting 770,000+ e-mails that were hanging out in my Deleted Items folder, it took four weeks but I can finally use my full outlook client instead of outlook.office.com. I'm sure my Exchange admins will take me off of their hit list any moment now.

It's why we have a rule that emails older than 7 days in the deleted items folder automatically gets removed.

Altimeter
Sep 10, 2003


Zorak of Michigan posted:


If I was running a multinational, I'd set up a frickin' IT concierge service for the C-level executives. Partially that's because their time is insanely valuable and I wouldn't want them waiting on hold, and partially because anyone touching their IT assets needs to know that their daily activities create documents with special legal status. Having them run into some IT intern who decides to wipe and reimage their laptop could be... bad. Having a C-level decide that IT isn't responsive enough and they need their own shadow IT would be infinitely worse.

Literally my job exists for this.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Mutar posted:

Literally my job exists for this.

I saw so many listings for this type of position when I was job hunting 2 jobs ago. I avoided them like the plague because the career path from there is uh...not great but yeah, it's definitely a thing a lot of places do.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Everyone on our team at the corporate HQ has executive support as a secondary responsibility.

The main helpdesk for the rest of the company is at another site.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
A ticket came in: half the country is without mobile data today, and a lot more people can't pay for shopping with their credit cards.

The reason? Some chud forgot to renew a loving certificate.

https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/1070729453771350019

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
I wonder if something equally as stupid was the cause of the big mobile outage in Japan yesterday.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

ChubbyThePhat posted:

I wonder if something equally as stupid was the cause of the big mobile outage in Japan yesterday.

Yep, it was; O2 and SoftBank were the biggest hit.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

ChubbyThePhat posted:

Ticket comes in: Email isn't working.

Alright that's weird. Yeah check that out mine just disconnected as well. Ask the Exchange guy what's up with the Exchange server.

"Oh one of the datastores just unmounted. It should be back up soon."

?????????????

Yeah , a data store unmounting isn’t a small thing.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

TinTower posted:

Yep, it was; O2 and SoftBank were the biggest hit.

Amazing.

Sickening posted:

Yeah , a data store unmounting isn’t a small thing.

It certainly is not. Obviously he's been too busy with the fallout from this but I am MIGHTY curious how that "just happened".

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

TinTower posted:

A ticket came in: half the country is without mobile data today, and a lot more people can't pay for shopping with their credit cards.

The reason? Some chud forgot to renew a loving certificate.

https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/1070729453771350019

Translation "We're actively hunting for who is to blame and going to make them disappear into an unmarked grave".

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


GreenNight posted:

It's why we have a rule that emails older than 7 days in the deleted items folder automatically gets removed.

I wish ours did, especially with all the meeting invites that autodelete. The spam folder clears out anything over 30 days, but the deleted ones stay forever.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


ChubbyThePhat posted:

It certainly is not. Obviously he's been too busy with the fallout from this but I am MIGHTY curious how that "just happened".

The same way "I bumped a cable in the rack and the whole unit lost power"

An enterprise-class flash storage array with dual-redundant power that was NOT alerting about lost power redundancy at the time.

Never mind that the person was also decommissioning hardware in the same rack at the moment he "bumped the cable".

CYA only works when everyone CAN'T tell you're utterly full of poo poo.

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe

TinTower posted:

A ticket came in: half the country is without mobile data today, and a lot more people can't pay for shopping with their credit cards.

The reason? Some chud forgot to renew a loving certificate.

https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/1070729453771350019

Not even surprised

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

Zorak of Michigan posted:

It's not clear to me that Renegret meant "goddamned CEO" literally, and if not, that puts a rather different construction on things.

Depending on the size of the company, it doesn't always make sense for senior leadership to have the same process as everyone else. If I was running a multinational, I'd set up a frickin' IT concierge service for the C-level executives. Partially that's because their time is insanely valuable and I wouldn't want them waiting on hold, and partially because anyone touching their IT assets needs to know that their daily activities create documents with special legal status. Having them run into some IT intern who decides to wipe and reimage their laptop could be... bad. Having a C-level decide that IT isn't responsive enough and they need their own shadow IT would be infinitely worse.

I work for an ISP, so I'm talking about if an executive loses internet service home or something. I 100% agree they should have some special batphone for their work related IT issues and I will happily go crazy over something that's affecting internal users. Once they go home and want to go watch some porn or something, that's when I stop caring.

The executives will happily pull resources away from customer service outages because they were watching CNN at home and saw some flickering for a few seconds. That's when I start having problems.

Renegret fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Dec 7, 2018

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
When I first started working here one of my responsibilities was running a speed check on the CEO's son's dedicated XBOX modem.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Ok that one is pretty annoying yeah. I’d be salty too.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
I'd run it constantly to monopolise bandwidth once in a while. Gotta get consistent test results.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Renegret posted:

When I first started working here one of my responsibilities was running a speed check on the CEO's son's dedicated XBOX modem.

Shortly after I got out of training I was put under a supervisor to research and put together some new training material for the coding language we use. My supervisor was also our location's nominal IT guy.

I did my work, gave him my material, and waited for feedback on what i should change/improve, instead he started assigning me IT tasks like making reams of Cat5 Cable, setting up new computers, installing an anti-virus on his friend's computer, etc. Then he went on vacation for a month and I started reporting to a new supervisor who was very angry at me for not making more progress on the training material. Was brought in for a talk with the branch manager about managing my time more effectively and I made my case, got a month to 'make things right' and I did. Took me a couple of years to be able to even be in the same room as our "IT Guy" without wanting to stab him in the throat.

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo

GreenNight posted:

It's why we have a rule that emails older than 7 days in the deleted items folder automatically gets removed.

WHAT?? After I read an email, if it requires follow up I delete it, then go through my deleted items when I have time and follow up on all the emails and move them into my archived folder. Good thing you don't work for me or you'd be responsible for potentially millions of dollars of lost sales opportunities!

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

We don't have archiving either. Eat poo poo hoarders.

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008

GreenNight posted:

It's why we have a rule that emails older than 7 days in the deleted items folder automatically gets removed.

Man, if I sign out of my work account at any point, even for a few seconds and sign back in immediately afterwards, any items that were in my deleted folder in Outlook during that session are automatically purged for good.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Kurieg posted:

Shortly after I got out of training I was put under a supervisor to research and put together some new training material for the coding language we use. My supervisor was also our location's nominal IT guy.

I did my work, gave him my material, and waited for feedback on what i should change/improve, instead he started assigning me IT tasks like making reams of Cat5 Cable, setting up new computers, installing an anti-virus on his friend's computer, etc. Then he went on vacation for a month and I started reporting to a new supervisor who was very angry at me for not making more progress on the training material. Was brought in for a talk with the branch manager about managing my time more effectively and I made my case, got a month to 'make things right' and I did. Took me a couple of years to be able to even be in the same room as our "IT Guy" without wanting to stab him in the throat.

Honestly this is my current issue with IT in general.

I seem to constantly find myself working for more than one manager. Please one, the other wants you to be fired because you're "ignoring them". You need to "prioritise" better but you bet your rear end if you don't "prioritise" exactly the way they want you too, they think you're useless.

Had the choice between sorting out an issue for the company owner or doing some small time data poo poo for my manager. Choose the company owner, manager got pissy, complained to company owner. Ok, cool, i guess. And they're wondering why i'm leaving, lmao

angry armadillo
Jul 26, 2010

AlexDeGruven posted:

The same way "I bumped a cable in the rack and the whole unit lost power"

An enterprise-class flash storage array with dual-redundant power that was NOT alerting about lost power redundancy at the time.

Never mind that the person was also decommissioning hardware in the same rack at the moment he "bumped the cable".

CYA only works when everyone CAN'T tell you're utterly full of poo poo.
Ah the old bumped a cable excuse.

I did something the other month where I considered using that line to my boss and thought nah I'm just going to 'fess up here :D
He wasn't bothered.

My helpdesk guy used it on me so I grilled him a bit and he didn't admit whatever he did, but kept hinting that he obviously did something.

Jewel
May 2, 2009

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46497526

quote:

NHS told to ditch 'absurd' fax machines

The NHS will be banned from buying fax machines from next month - and has been told by the government to phase out the machines entirely by 31 March 2020.

Finally someone's trying to get rid of fax machines.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Jewel posted:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46497526


Finally someone's trying to get rid of fax machines.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013




No fax number. 2/10

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Our place deletes after 45 days and archives are user based and not backed up (only limited shared space on the server, and only things on the server are backed up, so all the archived mail goes local)

The problem here is that, most things are emailed because there is little to no documentation, so you have to dig up the email they sent you that one time and hope you can find, and OOPS you forgot to archive it and it's gone.

Guess I'm making this ticket someone else's problem because I can't remember how to do it and no one else remembers either.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

dogstile posted:

Honestly this is my current issue with IT in general.

I seem to constantly find myself working for more than one manager. Please one, the other wants you to be fired because you're "ignoring them". You need to "prioritise" better but you bet your rear end if you don't "prioritise" exactly the way they want you too, they think you're useless.

Had the choice between sorting out an issue for the company owner or doing some small time data poo poo for my manager. Choose the company owner, manager got pissy, complained to company owner. Ok, cool, i guess. And they're wondering why i'm leaving, lmao

I don’t know if you have thought of this yet, but have you tried finding a job where you report to one person? Like I get something happening after you joining but since this has happened multiple times it seems like you aren’t asking this during the interview process.


Having multiple bosses is incredibly dumb and shows your org is loving stupid in a huge way.

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dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Yeah i get the recurring theme.

First time wasn't a mistake so i "learned", 2nd time, different company. They did a "reshuffle" and I ended up with two, this time i was supposed to have one and about 5 months in picked up a second via way of the company CEO butting in and decided he needed someone to do his personal poo poo on company time.

I didn't really care because it was company time, but someone did. I was too helpful, i guess.

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