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H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Larry Parrish posted:

Its effective at getting people to buy rollies

everyone i know in nyc instantly learned to roll their own it's a completely insane poor tax

sin taxes are worthless moralizing by elites

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Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

qkkl posted:

$20 can buy like a month's supply of rice or potatoes. My recommendation to feed yourself on a very tight budget is to buy rice, potatoes, canned beans, and maybe some of the cheapest ground beef or sausage, for protein.

lmao source your quotes

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

get rid of gas tax, sin tax, taxes, money, and the people who still think capitalism has done any good to anyone who earns >1 billion per year. Using education. (anyone over a billion I don't really have any pity for, it's my own moral limit)

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



Just eat like the worthless serf you are geez. I bet you even have a fridge!

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗
Hey larry you work at pizza hut right? Did they ever tell you what that new buck per order 'california related extra business costs' fee is? I hope it's for the new min wage and not some extra bullshit like their passing on a fuel charge.
Also do they gently caress over the employees when a 'we hosed up an order here's a 5 buck credit'? Gets issued? Still guaranteed business, and I didn't even raise a stink dude just automatically gave it to me.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

T-man posted:

get rid of gas tax, sin tax, taxes, money, and the people who still think capitalism has done any good to anyone who earns >1 billion per year. Using education. (anyone over a billion I don't really have any pity for, it's my own moral limit)

eh, kantorovich almost got gulaged for having the bourgeois concept of money in his linear programming price system, but he was the closest to actually creating an automatic system for assigning production to poo poo

soviets ignored him a remarkable amount (he was a genius and heralded as such but nobody fuckin actually implemented poo poo from him), but american firms sat up and listened like gently caress to danzig, and here we are

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Coolness Averted posted:

Hey larry you work at pizza hut right? Did they ever tell you what that new buck per order 'california related extra business costs' fee is? I hope it's for the new min wage and not some extra bullshit like their passing on a fuel charge.
Also do they gently caress over the employees when a 'we hosed up an order here's a 5 buck credit'? Gets issued? Still guaranteed business, and I didn't even raise a stink dude just automatically gave it to me.

tipped workers in california are still paid the standard min wage, that's nothing new

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016
Please don't feed qkkl nor quote it thanks.

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Answer: :suicide:

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Lmao that a stilted moron like this would call himself a CEO

CEOs absolutely don't bother with micromanaging their employee schedules. what kind of moron would look at that poo poo if they run everything?

MOREOVER: gently caress you who the gently caress works more than 8 hours a day? and if they do they should get OT you stupid bitch.

qkkl
Jul 1, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Minnesota Mixup posted:

Just eat like the worthless serf you are geez. I bet you even have a fridge!

Cooking your own food is one of the few things communists and libertarians agree is a good thing. If you don't, you're either not being self-reliant, or are eating out, which is a bourgeoisie activity.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Coolness Averted posted:

Hey larry you work at pizza hut right? Did they ever tell you what that new buck per order 'california related extra business costs' fee is? I hope it's for the new min wage and not some extra bullshit like their passing on a fuel charge.
Also do they gently caress over the employees when a 'we hosed up an order here's a 5 buck credit'? Gets issued? Still guaranteed business, and I didn't even raise a stink dude just automatically gave it to me.

I work for dominos and the closest pizza hut is 30 miles away. However my gut says the $1 just goes straight to corporate and whether the employee eats a loss on compensating a customer for a hosed up order depends on the franchisee.

My store charges a delivery fee of $3.49, of which I get $1, so half the people I deliver to figure that means I get that whole thing and I dont need a tip. Nope, it's just rent seeking by the dominoes corporation because somehow franchise fees and logistics weren't enough of a free gravy train

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

The Conquest of Pizza by Larry Parrish, a book of our times

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Larry Parrish posted:

Look dickhead, I live in rural California where the legislature is already trying the incentivise public transit through gas taxes method. What you neoliberal morons seem to forget is that city and county officials are often far more easily bribable, and small businesses like gas stations typically aren't rich enough to engage in creative accounting, and so give more money than whatever pitiful subsidies the state provides. So when you raise gas taxes, instead of incentivizing using public transit, what happens is people still drive exactly as much because there isn't public transit to use or it doesn't go where they work, or my personal favorite of only running during office hours so no actual poor person can use it for work, and now poor people pay a bigger proportion of taxes for zero benefit to anyone besides the ego of lanyard wearing dickheads in government
*capitalists destroy public transportation infrastructure in the US and receive enormous subsidy from everyone else to build giant masses of roads and parking lots for personal automobiles just for their own myopic profits*

*neoliberals blame poor people for being forced to drive in personal automobiles in order to eke out a miserable existence*

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

poo poo POST MALONE posted:

Lmao that a stilted moron like this would call himself a CEO

CEOs absolutely don't bother with micromanaging their employee schedules. what kind of moron would look at that poo poo if they run everything?

MOREOVER: gently caress you who the gently caress works more than 8 hours a day? and if they do they should get OT you stupid bitch.

You have to be ready to respond to your work email at all times in case of a crisis. Some people I knew who went to business school actually did "drills" for this and would have to take quizzes and do assignments at like 3 am on a Saturday.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Bert Roberge posted:

You have to be ready to respond to your work email at all times in case of a crisis. Some people I knew who went to business school actually did "drills" for this and would have to take quizzes and do assignments at like 3 am on a Saturday.

I largely took my current job because my work laptop stays in work, and no one gets work emails on their phone. Combined with flexible work hours and I have to say it owns.

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

jimmyjams
Jan 10, 2001


King Kong of Megadongs
Gobblin' them mega schlongs
Makin' sure they mega long
Stroke' 'em if they mega strong
i think i just realized its a matter of time before companies tracking where their workers go and what they do on the weekends and poo poo via the work supplied permanent on-call smart phone becomes a thing

and gently caress it, if your amazon echo listens to all the poo poo you say just to sell you ads why wouldn't companies spy on their workers' work supplied smart phone's mics

edit: vaguely paranoid, but then again we do live in the shittiest possible cyberpunk dystopia

jimmyjams has issued a correction as of 12:10 on Dec 9, 2018

Ayatollah Hermione
Apr 3, 2007

by Cyrano4747
^^ its not paranoia if people actually are out to get you

ChipNDip
Sep 6, 2010

How many deaths are prevented by an executive order that prevents big box stores from selling seeds, furniture, and paint?

bike tory posted:

I definitely don't remember that because I don't live in the US. Where I do live is somewhere that has regional fuel taxes, and it works fairly well.

I'm sure there are states in the US that have regional fuel taxes already? I can't be hosed googling it to find out though tbh, I'm not invested in whether you think it's possible.

Every US state has their own fuel tax. It does precisely jack and poo poo to curb driving because the funds are often earmarked to road maintenance.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I like when neolibs don't even economics well

quote:

Elasticity is a measure of how much the quantity demanded of a service/good changes in relation to its price, income or supply.

When there is a small change in demand when prices change a lot, the product is said to be inelastic. The most famous example of relatively inelastic demand is that for gasoline. As the price of gasoline increases, the quantity demanded doesn't decrease all that much. This is because there are very few good substitutes for gasoline and consumers are still willing to buy it even at relatively high prices.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost



is there one for radio?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

jimmyjams posted:

i think i just realized its a matter of time before companies tracking where their workers go and what they do on the weekends and poo poo via the work supplied permanent on-call smart phone becomes a thing

and gently caress it, if your amazon echo listens to all the poo poo you say just to sell you ads why wouldn't companies spy on their workers' work supplied smart phone's mics

edit: vaguely paranoid, but then again we do live in the shittiest possible cyberpunk dystopia

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...



as a neuroscientist who specializes in EEG and brain computer interfacing I can tell you that whoever is peddling this garbage (assuming it isn't a wholesale fabrication that China is doing something like this in the first place) is a complete snake oil salesman. I wish I could throttle people who peddle things like this on the market

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Mr. Lobe posted:

as a neuroscientist who specializes in EEG and brain computer interfacing I can tell you that whoever is peddling this garbage (assuming it isn't a wholesale fabrication that China is doing something like this in the first place) is a complete snake oil salesman. I wish I could throttle people who peddle things like this on the market

Using my Ocular Shape Recognition unit, it appears that your Emotional Domain is negative, you blood type is A+, you're a Pisces, and I suspect you of having anti-technology and anti-China intentions. Don't make me send you to my Suspected Individual Mood Rehabilitation Clinic, where we use subliminal messaging and jenkem to help people like you.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
https://www.capitalism.com/

Burn it to the ground

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon
Capitalism. What is it good for?

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.


I'm a socialist who hates money, so I can't go to capitalism con 2018.

Dolomite
Jul 26, 2000
Cars & Legs


live like a capitalist everyday, just like charlie kirk!

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


T-man posted:

I'm a socialist who hates money, so I can't go to capitalism con 2018.

nevermind that, you're also about 11 months too late

apparently it takes place in january.

my head spins reading that ad copy. who is the audience for this kind of thing? is this really the kind of bullshit CEO types are into, or is this some kind of cargo cult thing for wannabe honchos?

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

100% cargo cult, or bipolar disorder folks on a mania.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Mr. Lobe posted:

as a neuroscientist who specializes in EEG and brain computer interfacing I can tell you that whoever is peddling this garbage (assuming it isn't a wholesale fabrication that China is doing something like this in the first place) is a complete snake oil salesman. I wish I could throttle people who peddle things like this on the market

On the other hand, terrorizing employees and threatening them putting them with humiliating examinations (albeit phoney ones) and psychological warfare probably increases productivity - in the short term.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


steinrokkan posted:

On the other hand, terrorizing employees and threatening them putting them with humiliating examinations (albeit phoney ones) and psychological warfare probably increases productivity - in the short term.

yeah well, that's the same logic behind the polygraph, to which it can be directly be compared. as a tool of determining truthtelling, it is virtually useless, but as a ill-defined threat and as theater of security, it is extremely effective for the uninformed.

I hate seeing my discipline commodified in the form of an immature technology and used as a tool of oppression. but hey what else is new under capitalism, yeah?

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Mr. Lobe posted:

as a neuroscientist who specializes in EEG and brain computer interfacing I can tell you that whoever is peddling this garbage (assuming it isn't a wholesale fabrication that China is doing something like this in the first place) is a complete snake oil salesman. I wish I could throttle people who peddle things like this on the market

Are you aware of anything 'mad scientist/cyberpunk-esque in the works, especially out of start-up land?

This stuff is cool but I don't know much about it.

edit: Also, would you be comfortable briefly commenting on your research area? It's my understanding that most EEG research is focused on identifying signals which can provide the basis for input/output interactions. Is that accurate?

Accretionist has issued a correction as of 17:34 on Dec 9, 2018

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

jimmyjams posted:

i think i just realized its a matter of time before companies tracking where their workers go and what they do on the weekends and poo poo via the work supplied permanent on-call smart phone becomes a thing

and gently caress it, if your amazon echo listens to all the poo poo you say just to sell you ads why wouldn't companies spy on their workers' work supplied smart phone's mics

edit: vaguely paranoid, but then again we do live in the shittiest possible cyberpunk dystopia

Lmao if you don't toss your Corp-phone in a lead bag the moment you punch out from wage time, chummer

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Accretionist posted:

Are you aware of anything 'mad scientist/cyberpunk-esque in the works, especially out of start-up land?

This stuff is cool but I don't know much about it.

I think the best metaphor for where we are in terms of brain-computer interfacing is somewhere along the lines of where VR was in the late 80's to early 90's, where you can see some tech demo stuff at trade shows that do a couple of cool but ultimately gimmicky things, but we are decades out from some key technological developments that would actually allow us to do something useful. (and of course, VR isn't even very useful today, but hey, maybe in a decade or two it will be even better, right?)

that said, there are a few small exceptions. for instance, there are some promising developments in intracranial prostheses for people suffering from certain neurological disorders. there are, for instance, implants that can be used to help mediate the symptoms of parkinson's disease by stimulating the basal ganglia. that technology has been around for about a decade, but it is becoming more refined as more biocompatible materials are being used. while I rather doubt that elective implants are a likely prospect for the near future, the maturation of this technology is a necessary precursor for that kind of mad-science sci-fi tech.

in addition, more work is being done trying to improve the specificity and general effectiveness of trans-cranial magnetic stumulation (TMS), a noninvasive brain stimulation technique where we induce electrical charges in the cortex by using hyperfocused electromagnets. no surgery is necessary, you just hold the coil against the portion of the head under which your target is, and fire. a fun thing to do with this is to target the motor cortex, because you can basically make people's limbs jerk by instantaneously making that region fire. more practically, it appears that some patients who do not respond to other therapies show improvements in clinical depression.

but if we want to get into capitalism.png territory, you don't need to look further than this hot mess of press-baiting vaporware being peddled by none other than Musk himself. when I saw this a week or 2 ago, it made me sick to my stomach, because it occurred to me that I may have no choice but to work for an rear end in a top hat like him when I complete my degree. for all its warts, one of the redeeming qualities of academia is that you generally have some degree of autonomy, and can go home and look at yourself in the mirror and feel like you are doing something of some positive social consequence, even if that mirror is in the bathroom of a shoebox studio you can barely afford. but I may not have the luxury of that choice, considering how bad job prospects are probably going to get in academia in a decade or so. god save me if I must professionally enable and stroke the ego of a repulsive conman.

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



That capcon website is a trip. Just look at this:



I've never been to this con but I can 100% guarantee people show up in Patrick Bateman cosplay unironically. Like raincoat and little fake ax reciting the lines about Huey Lewis and the News verbatim.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Can you make me a joy wire/orgasm button? It's, uh, for a friend.

e: Tom wants to murder me, jesus

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mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Koishi Komeiji posted:

That capcon website is a trip. Just look at this:



I've never been to this con but I can 100% guarantee people show up in Patrick Bateman cosplay unironically. Like raincoat and little fake ax reciting the lines about Huey Lewis and the News verbatim.

Wow, who thought that someone with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome could go so far?

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