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If you were a washout med student, wouldn't you just be a GP and hired some experienced nurses to do 90% of your work and offload the rest by referring people to specialists? That seems like it would be the best way to avoid having to do any actual doctoring yourself. I think all the really bad med students end up going to those Caribbean schools and then failing to get internships/residencies and bombing out with hundreds of thousands in debt and no actual ability to practice.
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Ashcans posted:I think all the really bad med students end up going to those Caribbean schools and then failing to get internships/residencies and bombing out with hundreds of thousands in debt and no actual ability to practice. I work with several of them in clinical research, but they’re not practicing. Although the salary with bonuses and per diems can reach $200k with enough experience, so they can at least attempt to pay back some of those loans 
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I thought you could just be a consultant for one of the insurers if you weren't particularly skilled as a physician/surgeon/specialist.
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Ashcans posted:If you were a washout med student, wouldn't you just be a GP and hired some experienced nurses to do 90% of your work and offload the rest by referring people to specialists? That seems like it would be the best way to avoid having to do any actual doctoring yourself. You still have to pass boards in order to get a medical license/practice independently. There's a minimum level of competence required.
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Dec 10, 2018 16:34
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Ashcans posted:I think all the really bad med students end up going to those Caribbean schools and then failing to get internships/residencies and bombing out with hundreds of thousands in debt and no actual ability to practice. I met someone in 2008 or 2009 who was teaching in Japan because he failed to get into med school and this was his plan after his stint in Japan. I just checked what he's up to on FB and he just matched into a hospital. I'm not sure what he's been up to in the mean time but it's been almost 10 years. He's married and has at least one child. I really don't want to know what their finances look like.
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Ashcans posted:If you were a washout med student, wouldn't you just be a GP and hired some experienced nurses to do 90% of your work and offload the rest by referring people to specialists? That seems like it would be the best way to avoid having to do any actual doctoring yourself. You have to graduate from medical school, and any medical school that provides a direct route to practicing medicine in the United States is fairly difficult to get into vis a vis most other kinds of graduate school, even Caribbean schools. You cannot practice medicine in any state independently without at least one year of clinical training, and in general it is hard to be reimbursed for your services unless you have completed a residency and our board certified or board eligible. If you graduate medical school but cannot get into any residency at all your options to practice medicine are very limited. Probably the most viable career options are to enter industry or to enlist in the military and hope to match after being a flight surgeon or something along those lines.
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the talent deficit posted:medical schools hate failing students. generally if you're accepted and you're not a complete rear end in a top hat you'll get steered into some speciality that doesn't require any particular competence, like burn surgery or anesthiology can't make half a million a year until you at least learn to spell "anesthesiology."
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:can't make half a million a year until you at least learn to spell "anesthesiology."
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I'm 100% sure that post was carefully crafted as a troll. Why else choose those two random specs compared to all the things people actually make fun of for being easy? And misspell?
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Dec 10, 2018 16:54
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Successfully trolled four separate doctors with one post
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:Successfully trolled four separate doctors with one post
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Dec 10, 2018 18:14
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The fact that we even have doctors posting in BFC is pretty astounding given their propensity to be absolute dogshit with money.
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So instead of yelling "is there a doctor in the house?' just poo poo on the profession instead?
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Murderball posted:So instead of yelling "is there a doctor in the house?' just poo poo on the profession instead? I am for this now and forever I know two doctors and they are both audiophiles. I can therefore conclude that doctors are dumb as hell
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Hoodwinker posted:The fact that we even have doctors posting in BFC is pretty astounding given their propensity to be absolute dogshit with money. I mean it was either become a doctor/have a job I don't hate, finance, or go in to tech/kill myself soooo.
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Residency Evil posted:I mean it was either become a doctor/have a job I don't hate, finance, or go in to tech/kill myself soooo. Do robots already do all the other jobs there used to be? I should get out more
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my partner is an interventional radiologist. every anethesiologist i ever met washed out of ortho. suck it medifailures also yeah if you are really bad at doctoring you end up working as a doc in a box at an urgent care center. anyone who passes step 3 can do that and step 3 has a ludicrous first time pass rate of 98%. if you go to a credible medical school it's nearly impossible to not end up a doctor
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Dec 10, 2018 18:33
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Did she go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College too?
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the talent deficit posted:my partner is an interventional radiologist. every anethesiologist i ever met washed out of ortho. suck it medifailures I realize I'm coming back for seconds but you misspelled it, again.
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Man I love this guy. Almost but doesn't quite have it down. I recommend picking a non-surgical specialty for your first example next time. And also I'd say teleradiology for your partner, not IR. Or maybe that's too obvious? I mean, I get that you're saying no one respects IR either but to get real anger you need to pick a still easier target.
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Murderball posted:Did she go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College too? she did not have the honor of being one of EAT FASTER!!!!!!'s classmates, no. on the plus side she didn't have to settle for being an anesthesiologist
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Third time was the charm.
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:Third time was the charm. talking about your match is off topic for this thread, i think?
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I saw an anesthesiologist who was basically kiting checks from the account his payroll came into because he was trying to avoid the levy payments for something like 250k of back taxes. He'd have a check floating for the exact amount of payroll and set it up so it would hit the account on the day the payroll posted. He'd then go back and use cash to purchase cashier's checks for monthly stuff. Made $30-$40k a month, but couldn't afford to pay his goddamn taxes.
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FAUXTON posted:I saw an anesthesiologist who was basically kiting checks from the account his payroll came into because he was trying to avoid the levy payments for something like 250k of back taxes. He'd have a check floating for the exact amount of payroll and set it up so it would hit the account on the day the payroll posted. He'd then go back and use cash to purchase cashier's checks for monthly stuff. Look at the Nissan CEO who Japan is going after for like $40 million in unpaid taxes. The guy had more money than 99.9% of the world, but he just had to have a little bit more.
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So is going to med school to get a DO and then becoming a pathologist BWM, BWL, or both?
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Bird in a Blender posted:Look at the Nissan CEO who Japan is going after for like $40 million in unpaid taxes. The guy had more money than 99.9% of the world, but he just had to have a little bit more. The weird thing about money is you never have enough.
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Fhqwhgads posted:So is going to med school to get a DO and then becoming a pathologist BWM, BWL, or both? bwm but gwl
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Should I leave my toxic job and pay back high training costs ?quote:Sorry, new to sub, not sure if this is the place for this but I’m just looking for some advice. Why would you ever accept a job that threatens this???
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Murderball posted:Did she go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College too? She got her degree from Columbia. Now she has to get one in America.
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Bird in a Blender posted:Look at the Nissan CEO who Japan is going after for like $40 million in unpaid taxes. The guy had more money than 99.9% of the world, but he just had to have a little bit more. This assumes that the case made by Nissan and Mitsubishi is all above board and correct. The accusations made by Japan and these Japanese companies are exceedingly convenient (to put it politely) when it comes to wresting back control of the two traditionally Japanese companies now held largely by Renault (as a consequence of Ghosn's intervention, which certainly saved both companies from bankruptcy). To put it less politely, numerous economic states have manipulated tax policy as they see fit to target prominent multinational individuals when it aligns with their political goals. Do I think soccer players (with image rights, particularly) and CEOs (stock options and bonus compensation) are playing by the same rules as ordinary citizens? No, but they're within the realm of "behavior which is tolerated" until governments decide to apply slightly more scrutiny to some wealthy individuals than others. You're going to see this, more and more, whether the merits of Ghosn's individual prosecution hold up (or not).
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Should I leave my toxic job and pay back high training costs ? How the gently caress does it cost $15K to tell someone "lie to your customers and put them in the funds that give us kickbacks"
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BMan posted:How the gently caress does it cost $15K to tell someone "lie to your customers and put them in the funds that give us kickbacks" Someone has to pay for the series 7 and 63 training and tests.
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Bird in a Blender posted:Look at the Nissan CEO who Japan is going after for like $40 million in unpaid taxes. The guy had more money than 99.9% of the world, but he just had to have a little bit more. Eh, I'm reasonably sure there's a heaping side element of "he pissed off the wrong people and so they came after him for something that everyone does and there was tacit acceptance of but was technically against the law" involved. Same kind of thing happened in Olympus when Woodford starting digging into their dirty laundry, and oh what a coincidence, Nissan just happens to want to get out of their existing partnerships at the moment and what better way than by saying "we don't trust this FOREIGN ceo you foisted on us and who led us back into healthy profitability now that he's a lawbreaker"? The media here is pretty tightly controlled by business interests so you can be drat sure that nowhere near half the relevant info is ever going to be published. Also change your username, you loving sadist <  >
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That sounds like AXA Advisors. A college buddy worked for them his first two years out of college. They take fresh college grads, get them their certs, and then have them do cold calls and knocking on doors try to peddle their investment options. He was assigned to their team that targeted public school teachers so he had to lurk around schools trying to corner teachers. He told me that he had to rent his desk space from the company, so he was in the red each month if he didn't make a certain number of sales. Turning your employees into white collar serfs is GWM.
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:Third time was the charm. the talent deficit posted:talking about your match is off topic for this thread, i think?  FAUXTON posted:I saw an anesthesiologist who was basically kiting checks from the account his payroll came into because he was trying to avoid the levy payments for something like 250k of back taxes. He'd have a check floating for the exact amount of payroll and set it up so it would hit the account on the day the payroll posted. He'd then go back and use cash to purchase cashier's checks for monthly stuff. A mediocre anesthesiologist can be saved by hiring good CRNAs. GWM and GWB(usiness)
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Cacafuego posted:A mediocre anesthesiologist can be saved by hiring good CRNAs. GWM and GWB(usiness) Lol good one.
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the talent deficit posted:my partner is an interventional radiologist. every anethesiologist i ever met washed out of ortho. suck it medifailures I sliced open a finger and had to get stitches at urgent care. The nurse said to the doctor stitching me up, "You're really good at that!" His reply was a bitter, "Well, I was going to be a neurosurgeon." I suppose they don't just let anyone be a neurosurgeon but oh boy. Changed the subject very quickly.
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totalnewbie posted:I sliced open a finger and had to get stitches at urgent care. Then again, Ben Carson...
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one thing you will note if you hang around technically competent people qualified in a specific field (doctors, pilots, even such creatures as engineers) is that the fact that they know a lot about one thing does not mean that they know anything about anything else it doesn't stop them from believing they do, though
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