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Spacedad posted:So I remembered I have a family member who is a marine veteran and so I can buy laptops without having to pay sales tax, and at whatever discount military people get. While you can occasionally get decent deals on tech at the MCX, anything they run there is generally outdone by sales going on at normal retailers, even when accounting for sales tax. For example, the Helios 300 they have there for $1400 is $1300 at NewEgg (where you also won't pay sales tax in most cases).
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Spacedad posted:So I remembered I have a family member who is a marine veteran and so I can buy laptops without having to pay sales tax, and at whatever discount military people get. I never found the PX a good place to buy poo poo...but Apple recently started a 10% Military discount https://www.apple.com/us_epp_805199/shop
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Yeah....The general impression I get so far is - if I want TVs or Apple products, PX is all right. But for laptops and hardware, with rare exception - generally not.
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Any outlooks on the Intel/AMD Vega I7-8705g support going forward? Haven't seen it pop up much. Even HP seems to have dropped it for a 1050ti in their 15 inch Spectre. It hits a really nice sweet spot but I'm slightly worried that its going to be a weird one-off and driver support is going to dry up immediately.
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Dec 5, 2018 21:53
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Does Dell refresh the XPS line on a schedule, like February-ish every year? I can wait that long for either new models or Lenovo to unbotch their sleep issues.
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Dec 5, 2018 23:39
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The Milkman posted:Does Dell refresh the XPS line on a schedule, like February-ish every year? I can wait that long for either new models or Lenovo to unbotch their sleep issues. If they're on a schedule it's Intel's. It doesn't look like 9th-gen mobile processors have been officially announced yet so it may be a few months at least
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Are there any pressure-sensitive pens that work with the X1 Carbon's display? Something similar to the one in the Yoga models.
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Clark Nova posted:If they're on a schedule it's Intel's. It doesn't look like 9th-gen mobile processors have been officially announced yet so it may be a few months at least Ah yeah that makes sense
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Will a 17" laptop always have better cooling than a 15" laptop with the exaxt same components? Looking at MSI Raider with the GTX 1070.
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Deciding between the Lenovo Y7000 and the HP Omen 15. Both have the i7-8750H, 16GB RAM, and a 6GB 1060. Leaning towards the Y7000 because it is far less 'gamery' and the Costco warranty, but there aren't too many reviews of it. Any reason to pick one over the other?
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Kritzkrieg Kop posted:Will a 17" laptop always have better cooling than a 15" laptop with the exaxt same components? Looking at MSI Raider with the GTX 1070. Certainly not always because laptop vendors have been known to do really stupid things, but all else being equal more space does tend to mean more heat dissipation capability. The only way to know for sure is to look for teardown photos or service manuals. As a general rule size matters with cooling systems.
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wolrah posted:Certainly not always because laptop vendors have been known to do really stupid things, but all else being equal more space does tend to mean more heat dissipation capability. The only way to know for sure is to look for teardown photos or service manuals. As a general rule size matters with cooling systems. This is a good answer
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Hello thread, I'm looking for a bit of advice, looking for a portable laptop with 32GB+ of RAM. Things I've looked at so far are the Dell XPS 15 (is the 4k screen worth the extra money? I wouldn't use the touchscreen), Razer Blade 15, I think it comes with 16GB but is upgradeable? And also the MSI GS65 Stealth Thin. The primary function is for work, but also some light gaming when I'm away from home. Which of those options would be the best? Or is there anything else out there that would be suitable?
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Bad Parenting posted:Hello thread, I'm looking for a bit of advice, looking for a portable laptop with 32GB+ of RAM.
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4k screens are great for productivity: better colors, sharper picture, slightly more usable real estate depending on your eyesight/display scaling. Downsides are that they suck up more battery and aren't really great for gaming, particularly on a laptop where you don't have the GPU power to run at native resolution so you're usually futzing around getting upscaled 1080p to work correctly (particularly when you don't want your windows getting rearranged thanks to fullscreen exclusive mode). Up to you to decide if it's worth the premium, you'll know your workloads best.
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I think the battery tradeoff is worth it. Get the 4k or whatever equivalent.
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Mu Zeta posted:I think the battery tradeoff is worth it. Get the 4k or whatever equivalent. If your workflow is such that you never need more than 4hrs of battery, I agree. If you actually need to worry about having a system that can run for 5+ hours at a go, 4k is still nice, but having a system that runs at all is better than a pretty one that doesn't. But, yeah, if you're like most people with work laptops where it spends 99.99% of its time plugged in, 4k is real nice.
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Bad Parenting posted:Hello thread, I'm looking for a bit of advice, looking for a portable laptop with 32GB+ of RAM. Not enough info. What do you actually need the 32GB+ for? What's the most common workflow for the machine?
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Greetings, people. I'm looking to get my wife a laptop for Christmas and would like some recommendations. We don't need anything too powerful but I'd like for her to be able to play some things like Skyrim and Fallout: New Vegas and similar games. A super-huge screen also isn't necessary, as well as anything above 60hz and 1080 resolution. I was looking around on lenovo's website with the B&N Gold discounts, but I'm not sure on some of the graphics cards options. I don't know if the intel integrated graphics are good enough, or even the option for the GeForce MX150. I really don't want to have to spend big bucks to get a "gaming" laptop. I'd like to stay around $700ish or less if possible, but might stretch into $800 if there's something with good value. Any suggestions are welcome, and thank you!
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The integrated graphics is unacceptable for nearly any game right now. The MX150 is a step up and if she's willing to play games at 1280x720 then it will work ok. https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-MX150-Benchmark-and-Specs-of-the-GT-1030-for-Laptops.223530.0.html
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Mu Zeta posted:The integrated graphics is unacceptable for nearly any game right now. The MX150 is a step up and if she's willing to play games at 1280x720 then it will work ok. 1280x720 will look a bit poor upscaled to 1080p, though. A 1050 is really the minimum to be playing stuff that's not indy/2D. To that end, if she's willing to deal with a bit of a heavier laptop, the Dell G3 has been going on sale regularly of late for under $700-800 (depending on model). I'd stay away from any of the recent MSI sales with screens advertising "45% NTSC," as their color quality is lacking. Another avenue would be looking at used XPS 15's--I managed to pick up one of last year's models in great condition for $625. Sure, the brand new ones might be a tad faster and have an extra 30 min of battery life, but whatever.
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Dang, thanks for the information. I was worried that the integrated graphics wouldn't be good enough. How does this price look for a Dell G3? $689.99 for https://www.costco.com/Dell-G3-15-G...100405182.html, I like that if I get something from Costco they have a good warranty and product replacement plan. If anyone else has any suggestions for something along that line, please speak up. *edit* ok that Costco link isn't working. It's the Dell G3 15 Gaming Laptop with GeForce GTX 1050. The item # is 1233592 if you want to search for it. How upgradable is the HDD on that if I want to get an SSD? Scope fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Dec 10, 2018 |
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It's a fine laptop as long as you know you're getting a bad display
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I effectively bought my first QHD+/4k screen by 'accident' (was forced into it to get other features i wanted) and i won't ever go back. zero regrets other than not switching any sooner. imho you will never regret having higher resolution
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Statutory Ape posted:I effectively bought my first QHD+/4k screen by 'accident' (was forced into it to get other features i wanted) and i won't ever go back. zero regrets other than not switching any sooner. imho you will never regret having higher resolution But if you really value not seeing pixel-jaggies and they genuinely bother you at 1080p then you might like 4k I guess.
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isndl posted:4k screens are great for productivity: better colors, sharper picture, slightly more usable real estate depending on your eyesight/display scaling. Downsides are that they suck up more battery and aren't really great for gaming, particularly on a laptop where you don't have the GPU power to run at native resolution so you're usually futzing around getting upscaled 1080p to work correctly (particularly when you don't want your windows getting rearranged thanks to fullscreen exclusive mode). Up to you to decide if it's worth the premium, you'll know your workloads best. They also tend to come in the glossy screen finish some people find annoying. Also the 4K model tends to be slightly heavier than the 1080 versions.
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etalian posted:Also the 4K model tends to be slightly heavier than the 1080 versions. This is usually from the extra hardware of making it a touch screen. Non-touch 4k's don't weigh any more than their 1080p counterparts.
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roomforthetuna posted:I had the same sequence but the opposite conclusion. I hate 4k on a laptop screen. If you try to run games at 4k they'll suck, and if you have the hardware upscale from 1080p then any other windows you left open will (depending on the game) have a moderate chance of being resized into the top left quarter of the screen rather than wherever you wanted them to be. Also either things that don't scale for themselves are too small *or* you end up setting some global scaling value at which point all the extra resolution isn't really giving you any extra space so why bother imho. Depending on the game, you can run it in borderless window and set it to display at 2x scale to avoid the background windows getting rearranged. This usually involves messing with application specific settings and takes a bit of effort, though. Newer game engines can handle upscaling for 4k natively, Overwatch will do it by default and UE4 engine games can do it (though sometimes you have to set it via config file if the devs don't expose the setting in-game). All this is definitely a lot more work than the simplicity of 'install game, hit play' though.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Not enough info. What do you actually need the 32GB+ for? What's the most common workflow for the machine? The reason for wanting the RAM is running a bunch of virtual machines, my work is testing and integration of a whole load of applications so I need to have lots of stuff running at once. Thanks for the opinions on the 1080p/4k screens all.
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Mu Zeta posted:The integrated graphics is unacceptable for nearly any game right now. The MX150 is a step up and if she's willing to play games at 1280x720 then it will work ok. Integrated graphics won't do battlefield 5 very well, but they'll handle any indie game and/or Nintendo switch port, which is a heck of a lot. A real gpu is nice but you can do a hell of a lot of budget gaming on integrated graphics, especially if you many shop in the $15 and under bins on steam sales.
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Integrated graphics are pretty decent nowadays. Right now I'm playing Skyrim, Starcraft 2, and a bunch of other older games on my 8250u. I have to lower some settings if I want a smooth 60fps but it's not some unworkable thing. Intel even has a website to help you see if your iGPU is good enough to run games and some recommended settings. https://gameplay.intel.com/ That being said an MX150 is a nice upgrade and definitely makes things easier.
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I just don't really like anything bigger than QHD on laptops, honestly. I feel like the trade-off for power consumption just isn't really worth it, for me, and they're usually touchscreens. I feel like this is a weird opinion, but I honestly just plain do not like touchscreen laptops, they bug me and don't fit into my workflow at all.Bad Parenting posted:Hello thread, I'm looking for a bit of advice, looking for a portable laptop with 32GB+ of RAM. I actually had a similar need case to yours (work laptop, need 32 gigs ram for VMs, maybe some light gaming while I travel) and I just picked up a t480 and bought aftermarket RAM sticks. The MX150 is...okay as a card. It's not nearly as effective as a 1050, but unless you want to play things like the new Tomb Raider or AC game, it'll generally work fine for any indie stuff. Even those, it technically can play; it'll just do a pretty terrible job of it. It depends on what games you're actually playing. In my experience, I'm going to end up sitting down and chilling out with some indie thing or X-Com nine times out of ten, so it worked. I don't know that I'd necessarily recommend you doing the same, though, especially if you can get a good deal on an XPS 15 or a laptop with a 1050. Still, it's an option to consider.
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I have a touchscreen laptop (T470s) and still hate touching it thanks to years of "STAY AWAY FROM MY SCREEN!" neurosis.
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Mark Larson posted:I have a touchscreen laptop (T470s) and still hate touching it thanks to years of "STAY AWAY FROM MY SCREEN!" neurosis. I have a Pixel with touch screen and I almost never actually touch it. Reaching out to poke at the screen is almost always slower than just using the mouse/keyboard my hands are already on. It makes a lot more sense for tablet / 2-in-1 deals where touch is intended as a primary input method. For normal laptops I've always found it to be basically pointless.
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When editing large docs, I honestly find it easier to just touch the screen where I want the cursor to go/edit to be made vs navigating it there via the mouse. Granted, we're talking about a microsecond's worth of a difference, it just feels less annoying and much snappier when dealing with minor edits within large walls of text. Fwiw I use a MacBook at work and don't really miss the touch screen during my day to day workflow, but I just can't imagine plopping more than $500 on a device that doesn't come with what is now a standard feature. People who don't like them can always disable the touch functionality, right? And yeah gorilla glass owns
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Statutory Ape posted:I never touch my screen but I do love the gorilla glass
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mystes posted:My previous laptop had a glass touchscreen and my god the reflections were terrible. I recently got a new laptop and I went back to a normal matte screen and it's 1000 times better. You also don't really need the protection of gorilla glass on the screen of a laptop, either, so there's really no reason for it unless you really really want a touchscreen. i have a latitude 7490 and the xps 13 with the QHD+/Touch and frankly i prefer the screen on the xps, though I like having the mouse buttons on the latitude
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Obviously lots of people like touch screens seeing as how many laptops come with them, I just personally found that in for example an office with fluorescent lights I constantly had to tilt the screen to move the reflections around to be able to read stuff.
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