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You will be far better served assuming that streamers, and anyone who happily inserts themselves into ‘gamer culture’ is a virulent racist and/or generally awful, and working your way back to ‘maybe ok’ based on hard evidence only. Pewdiepie has spent more time whining about being called out for promoting racism then he has talking about, and apologizing for his behavior, responsibly. A hit dog will holler, etc.
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Beer has betrayed Trump, Kavanagu was a secret democrat the whole time!
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Shammypants posted:His decision has galvanized the right to foaming at the mouth over old issues and the Supreme Court. In other words it was strategically successful. I actually wouldn't be surprised if this was a deliberate strategy, since they know the second they actually ban abortion the red meat is gone (and they'll have to contend with the backlash)
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Dec 10, 2018 19:02
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Ogmius815 posted:Hey right twitter maybe don't panic because your shiny new justice refused to grant cert on something you wanted reviewed one goddamn time. Jesus. Being perpetually agreevied about not getting absolutely everything they want is their whole deal.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:02
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TheWordOfTheDayIs posted:I honestly don't believe he's a racist. I mean, I've watched a lot of his videos over the years and never got the impression that he wants to promote any racist or prejudiced ideas on his professional youtube channel. If he has personal biases, which a lot of people do, I get the impression that he is ashamed of them and would like to present an image of himself to the world that is his best self. I don't know him outside of the videos I've seen, but I really don't get the impression that he would be happier living in a racially segregated society or a sexist society or anything like that. I don't think a person like that is incapable of growth or change, nor do I think they are naturally resistant to such growth or change. I just don't get calling him a nazi. That's all I'm saying. Of all the hills you could die on in D&D why PewdiePie...
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Crow Jane posted:Frankly I'm more surprised that a presumably adult person with access to a credit card is so deep in the tank for Pewdiepie I'm honestly in awe right now, I think I skew on the younger side around here and Pewdiepie has ALWAYS been the hyper embarrassing and cringy brofist guy that everyone liked to poo poo on people for liking, but all of the sudden he is some weird redpilled superhero to be defended? To me he's always going to be the annoying flash game player that said rape a bunch and encouraged children to press their fist against their monitor to say goodbye to him.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:02
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Dec 10, 2018 19:04
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Guze posted:Trump has publicly been a snake oil salesman grifter for at least 30 years and these Wall Street idiots are just now thinking he might not know poo poo about trade negotiations. Trump has been doing everything that Americans on Wall Street have said would lead to a perfect world. He has cut tax rates for corporations and high wealth individuals. He has gotten “tough” with foreign trade competition. He has tried his damned best to roll back as many regulations as he can find. Admitting that this is all leading to disaster means that all the Koches, the Adelsons and the Jim Cramers of this country will finally have to admit that they’re wrong and they really don’t want to do that.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:04
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I like free speech and all, but I sort of agree with Germany on this sort of poo poo. It should be hard to nix a topic from the free speech area, but some things really don't need people talking about them in a positive light.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:05
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haveblue posted:That's why he was melting down a few days ago, the reason he came up ITT just now was that he linked to a crypto-fascist video. He didn't just link to a video. He made a video that was thanking people for their support and he wanted to "humbly" list some lesser known YouTubers that he watches and likes and thinks deserve more attention. A couple of those channels are.. questionable at best and at least one seems to be outright Nazi. There was no ironic or joking context, he said "I like this stuff".
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Dec 10, 2018 19:05
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Brony Car posted:Trump has been doing everything that Americans on Wall Street have said would lead to a perfect world. He has cut tax rates for corporations and high wealth individuals. He has gotten “tough” with foreign trade competition. He has tried his damned best to roll back as many regulations as he can find. wall street absolutely did not want the bolded thing and the business wing has been trying to end his trade wars and tarriffing since it started
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TheWordOfTheDayIs posted:I honestly don't believe he's a racist. I mean, I've watched a lot of his videos over the years and never got the impression that he wants to promote any racist or prejudiced ideas on his professional youtube channel. If he has personal biases, which a lot of people do, I get the impression that he is ashamed of them and would like to present an image of himself to the world that is his best self. I don't know him outside of the videos I've seen, but I really don't get the impression that he would be happier living in a racially segregated society or a sexist society or anything like that. I don't think a person like that is incapable of growth or change, nor do I think they are naturally resistant to such growth or change. I just don't get calling him a nazi. That's all I'm saying. He already got in lots of trouble multiple times for doing racist things, and the only reason we're talking about him right now is because he did another racist thing by promoting an overtly antisemitic youtube channel. If he's presenting his best self on his youtube channel, it's still very racist. Your bit about the segregated society is a strawman, btw. Plenty of racists don't want fullblown segregation.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:06
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What does this person mean by neocon? Because I know it must be different from what I think but I can't imagine how.
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Crabtree posted:Beer has betrayed Trump, Kavanagu was a secret democrat the whole time! But Trump doesn't give a gently caress about Planned Parenthood.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:09
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Tibalt posted:Are we seriously doing this? I don't mean the rest of the thread, I mean the guy standing up for Pew. This is, what, the third major Nazi/racism incident from him since the major Nazi/racist incident that lost him his Disney sponsorship? Yeah, Pew has been poo poo for years. I remember randomly clicking on one of his videos when I heard about him and it was all dumb, real unfunny rape jokes and him screeching RAAAAPE RAAAAAPE RAAAAPE. gently caress that guy. skylined! posted:You will be far better served assuming that streamers, and anyone who happily inserts themselves into ‘gamer culture’ is a virulent racist and/or generally awful, and working your way back to ‘maybe ok’ based on hard evidence only. Yeah, this. People who play video games: generally okay and cool. People who identify themselves as a ~GAMER~: guillotine.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:09
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Could you please not call a racist a nazi, its very mean and he's trying to be best. Now please like, subscribe and click on my latest video where I scream rape to kids and try and get them to say the holocaust isn't real - for the lulz!
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Dec 10, 2018 19:10
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Shifty Pony posted:But Trump doesn't give a gently caress about Planned Parenthood. The Trump the chuds created in their mind does
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Dec 10, 2018 19:10
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Squalid posted:What does this person mean by neocon? Because I know it must be different from what I think but I can't imagine how. They separated the word 'Neo' and 'Con' so we can infer that he was supposedly their 'One' savior type figure a-la the Matrix, where 'Neo' refers directly to the character name, and 'Con' refers to 'conscript' as in he was pressed into service by the heritage foundation.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:10
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The video game streamer who suggests you follow a guy who makes jokes about and endorses the fascist conspiracy theory that Heather Heyer died of a heart attack and not nazi murder is definitely not a racist, nope
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Dec 10, 2018 19:12
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Squalid posted:What does this person mean by neocon? Because I know it must be different from what I think but I can't imagine how. In my experience it refers to GWB-era Republicans, who I presume are the "swamp" to today's conservatives
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DandyLion posted:They separated the word 'Neo' and 'Con' so we can infer that he was supposedly their 'One' savior type figure a-la the Matrix, where 'Neo' refers directly to the character name, and 'Con' refers to 'conscript' as in he was pressed into service by the heritage foundation. Sir this is a McDonald’s. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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teen witch posted:Sir this is a McDonald’s. People are still doing this bit?
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Dec 10, 2018 19:13
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evilweasel posted:wall street absolutely did not want the bolded thing and the business wing has been trying to end his trade wars and tarriffing since it started Certain parts of Wall Street were psyched. People like Jim Cramer were cheering him on until reality struck. Jamie Dimon was also saying Trump was airing legitimate grievances with the Chinese. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/jamie-dimon-backs-trumps-legitimate-complaints-over-trade.html I think a lot of Wall Street thought China didn’t have a backbone and saw it as an easy win.
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Squalid posted:What does this person mean by neocon? Because I know it must be different from what I think but I can't imagine how. They mean "No True Conservative"
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Likely the friends and family he keeps are very similar to Pew, and he doesn't want them labeled that way because of the harsh reality of it. It's definitely this. Also he enjoyed the guys videos so I'm guessing he's trying to avoid the "if I like this racist, am I a racist for supporting him financially?" Question Saying "I don't think he is racist" and "he is ashamed of his racism" in the same breath is some kind of Olympic level mental gymnastics. He is not "deeply ashamed" he is afraid of losing sponsorships and money. He is a rich, privileged white guy and desperately wants to hold onto that power. And racism is about power and privileges and keeping them at all costs. TWOTDI, I suggest you do some introspection. You say you've watched his videos and don't get a racist impression but were you really watching them with a critical lense? And arguably does one really need a critical lense when the guy paid poor poc to hold up signs promoting genocide? Do you really not question the character of a person who would do that? And remember this video was workshopped from a concept, produced, shot and edited before it was uploaded. There were plenty of chances for him to reflect and decide that at the very least it's in bad taste. I suggest you examine your biases and listen to the people itt who are telling you how hosed up the guy really is.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:we mean like the people like Richard Spencer, who say we need to commit a genocide on black people, in America, who constantly develop new names for themselves because "nazi" is a bad brand. while simultanously marching and screaming JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US. you see i'm not actually a NAZI, because i'm not a german in the 1930s! I agree with this, I would use the term "nazi" for all the groups you mentioned. I didn't explain it as eloquently as you did, but yeah I think those groups qualify as "actual nazis"
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Dec 10, 2018 19:15
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VitalSigns posted:I actually wouldn't be surprised if this was a deliberate strategy, since they know the second they actually ban abortion the red meat is gone (and they'll have to contend with the backlash) They have pretty much won completely when it comes to guns and they still scare half of the country into voting for them because someone might think about gun control some day in the far future
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Dec 10, 2018 19:16
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Squalid posted:What does this person mean by neocon? Because I know it must be different from what I think but I can't imagine how.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:17
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TheWordOfTheDayIs posted:I agree with this, I would use the term "nazi" for all the groups you mentioned. I didn't explain it as eloquently as you did, but yeah I think those groups qualify as "actual nazis" You're an idiot and an Nazi sympathizer, op. Hope this helps.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:17
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Failed Imagineer posted:People are still doing this bit? I'm lovin it
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Failed Imagineer posted:People are still doing this bit? Yeah we should alternate back to "nice meltdown" that was way funnier.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:22
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It's good that Brett Kavanaugh decided the way he did on this one issue and also gently caress that guy forever and ever.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:22
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TheWordOfTheDayIs posted:I agree with this, I would use the term "nazi" for all the groups you mentioned. I didn't explain it as eloquently as you did, but yeah I think those groups qualify as "actual nazis" And if they aren't goosestepping everywhere they're not really racists, right?
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Brony Car posted:Certain parts of Wall Street were psyched. People like Jim Cramer were cheering him on until reality struck. Jamie Dimon was also saying Trump was airing legitimate grievances with the Chinese. there has been a lot of angst about china in particular, and confronting china was not the dumbest idea in the world because china has been sort of not "playing by the rules" for a while - mostly, forcing western companies to give up their IP and not really honoring deals about how much they'd open up their own markets. there is also the big problem of china penalizing companies that don't toe its line on things like taiwan, etc abroad. so there was legitimate support for trying to pressure china on those issues. pissing off everyone else in the world first through things like metal tariffs then going after china in the stupidest way possible was not on anyone's agenda of how to deal with china. trump also doesn't have the faintest idea what the actual problems in the us/china trade relationship are and is busy trying to fix something that's not the actual problem. every other aspect of his trade policy horrified everyone. the china part was ok in theory but, uh, lol at him executing on it
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Ogmius815 posted:Yeah we should alternate back to "nice meltdown" that was way funnier. source your quotes
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Wylie posted:When did "dropping the hard R" become a synonym for "the N word"? Is it actually that, or have I parsed something wrong? No the hard r is actually a synonym for the c word (cracker). Very hurtful & offensive, should be banned!!!
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TheWordOfTheDayIs posted:I just don't understand how this guy is getting lumped in with nazis by this thread full of people I usually agree with. Hi, PewDiePie signal boosts Nazi YouTube channels, he paid poor people to hold signs that said to kill Jewish people, and his followers include prominent far right figures. He is a Nazi. Peace nerd.
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PewDiePie is both a Nazi and a professional Let's Player. How the gently caress is anyone rallying to him?
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Party Plane Jones posted:there's one less bush to look behind now I both love you and hate you for this joke PPJ. Bravo.
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