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You should need a special license class to drive anything with a higher front end than a sedan, given the added risk it adds to pedestrian safety. It wouldn't need to be anything crazy, but enough to deter people who don't really need a giant pedestrian-killer from getting one.
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prom candy posted:You should need a special license class to drive anything with a higher front end than a sedan, given the added risk it adds to pedestrian safety. It wouldn't need to be anything crazy, but enough to deter people who don't really need a giant pedestrian-killer from getting one. It should be like cops and tazers, where you're required to get crashed into by an SUV before you can drive one.
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Dec 9, 2018 19:29
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Seat Safety Switch posted:It should be like cops and tazers, where you're required to get crashed into by an SUV before you can drive one. Agreed
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Dec 9, 2018 19:53
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pointsofdata posted:Because taller cars tend to be longer and wider, and have additional blindspots, I feel like it is worse than zero sum but haven't checked the maths. A vast gulf of Golf, if you will.
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Dec 10, 2018 12:52
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PT6A posted:Yeah, I'd agree with that. Unfortunately, everyone is prone to selfish behaviour and without any regulations discouraging taller, larger vehicles, well, we find ourselves in our current predicament. Just eliminating the CAFE exemptions would probably do wonders.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:26
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MikeyTsi posted:Just eliminating the CAFE exemptions would probably do wonders. That brings us back to the testing problem though. We've got loads of vehicles that are pigs IRL but make phenomenal fuel economy on an EPA dyno test, a fuel tax puts the stress back on real world performance.
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"When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure."
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Dec 10, 2018 20:11
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First non-render of the new Supra has leaked... It's like they made the FT-1 less stupid looking and I quite like it.
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Dec 12, 2018 18:12
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NumbersMatching320 posted:That brings us back to the testing problem though. We've got loads of vehicles that are pigs IRL but make phenomenal fuel economy on an EPA dyno test, a fuel tax puts the stress back on real world performance. Fuel taxes put the stress on people that are least able to deal with it. That's literally what people in France are rioting about.
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Dec 12, 2018 21:03
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Olympic Mathlete posted:First non-render of the new Supra has leaked... That's actually pretty, really liking the design. If they went full FT1 it would look ridiculous but the toned down version is definitely my jam.
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Dec 12, 2018 21:18
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I feel like you can see how it morphs into a BMW as soon as the plastic/metal cutline hits
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Dec 12, 2018 22:44
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That weird snout on the front kills it for me. Maybe it looks better in person
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Dec 12, 2018 22:51
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Olympic Mathlete posted:First non-render of the new Supra has leaked... This looks good.
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I feel like you can see how it morphs into a BMW as soon as the plastic/metal cutline hits Are you talking about the cooling system? 
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incels interlinked posted:That weird snout on the front kills it for me. Maybe it looks better in person Not a fan either.
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Dec 12, 2018 23:46
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Hmmm yes a BMW with Toyota styling and badges, a truly desirable vehicle Also lol at supporting inherently regressive consumption taxes
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Dec 12, 2018 23:55
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I fixed it Smooth out the nose and put a power bulge on the hood Toyota PM me for payment info
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Dec 13, 2018 01:05
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Fuel taxes put the stress on people that are least able to deal with it. That's literally what people in France are rioting about. Yeah we should tax the corporations which sell fuel or emit carbon in other ways instead
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Dec 13, 2018 20:59
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pointsofdata posted:Yeah we should tax the corporations which sell fuel or emit carbon in other ways instead But if we tax them instead of subsidizing them, how will their shareholders get a dividend? ExxonMobil only made $19.71b profit last year. One cent less and they might as well close up shop because what's even the point of existing?
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pointsofdata posted:Yeah we should tax the corporations which sell fuel or emit carbon in other ways instead This was a joke BTW. It's exactly the same as a carbon tax. The argument that it's too regressive to do is insane, if that's your concern then give the revenues to everyone below some percentile in the income distribution and, wow, it's suddenly progressive. The consumer cost argument is a trick being played on the left by big oil.
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Powershift posted:ExxonMobil only made $19.71b profit last year. One cent less and they might as well close up shop because what's even the point of existing? ... on $240b in revenue. Apple had about the same revenue, but 3x the profit. Exxon's financial performance has been lackluster for years. Wheeee posted:Also lol at supporting inherently regressive consumption taxes If the point of the tax/regulation is to reduce consumption of a particular good, then you're going to have to put on your big boy pants and accept that it will impact everybody and not just people you dislike.
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Dec 14, 2018 16:05
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Private jet fuel was excluded from the tax.
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Powershift posted:But if we tax them instead of subsidizing them, how will their shareholders get a dividend? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTic9btP38
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SlapActionJackson posted:If the point of the tax/regulation is to reduce consumption of a particular good, then you're going to have to put on your big boy pants and accept that it will impact everybody and not just people you dislike. 
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Dec 14, 2018 18:01
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Louisiana...bad???
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loving christ
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BraveUlysses posted:loving christ Worst roads in all of the USA by fuckin miles You wouldn't believe me if I described it, we need like a Nola goon to take some pics or summat
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Dec 14, 2018 19:30
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Wonder who causes more ecological damage in a year, ExxonMobil or Apple. Like, legit curious.
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SlapActionJackson posted:... on $240b in revenue. Apple had about the same revenue, but 3x the profit. Exxon's financial performance has been lackluster for years. poor babees
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Dec 14, 2018 21:15
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Those poor shareholders!
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Dec 14, 2018 21:34
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bust those fuckers open like the overstuffed pinatas they are
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Monkey Fracas posted:bust those fuckers open like the overstuffed pinatas they are You mean the legislators? Hell yeah!
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PT6A posted:To be able to see things in front of those vehicles, like upcoming hazards or oncoming traffic when making a turn. It's obviously a zero-sum game, but I won't pretend it's not useful from time to time. I mean, when it comes to backing out of a parking spot between two large trucks, I have less use for a backup camera than I would for a loving periscope. Imo it would help a lot of windows didn't get ever smaller and more tinted. I hate it if I drive behind a series of cars with slim and/or tinted windows because I don't have any idea what going on ahead in traffic. That hasn't been a problem 10 years ago when you could clearly see the brake lights of other drivers through the cars in front of you.
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Lord Stimperor posted:Imo it would help a lot of windows didn't get ever smaller and more tinted. I hate it if I drive behind a series of cars with slim and/or tinted windows because I don't have any idea what going on ahead in traffic. That hasn't been a problem 10 years ago when you could clearly see the brake lights of other drivers through the cars in front of you. you can't pretend to be single if people can see your kids in the back though
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I'm probably late to the party on this, but Lincoln is cockteasing us again and wants to make a continental with suicide doors. Last I heard Lincoln was killing off the Continental, so if this is a Chinese-market-only car I'm going to be upset.
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As Nero Danced posted:I'm going to be upset. With that B pillar ruining the effect and otherwise boring looks, I don’t think this is going to be too special.
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The only place I see Continentals now is in rental fleets.
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I got a continental as a loaner while my other Lincoln was in the shop and it was nice. I’d get one if I wanted a big comfortable sedan
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Dadliest Worrier posted:With that B pillar ruining the effect and otherwise boring looks, I don’t think this is going to be too special. Must be some roll over crash protection maxim requirement, because that’s terrible. Suicide doors are for convertibles anyhow.
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I saw an actual Continental recently (restored from 1964) and drat do they look good
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