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skipThings posted:It's interesting that we have this verniedlichte word for these children, "Frühchen". Feels like it was subconscoiusly , or conciously" invented to just put even more sympathy on these "brave little survivors". - babies are cute m8 this needs no propaganda effort - pille danach is absolutely not an Abtreibung - it's fun to hate on white men, but at least in the US opposition to abortion is more common among women iirc
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pidan posted:- babies are cute m8 this needs no propaganda effort - in the eye of the beholder etc. - I never said it was, but some people absolutely do - well we're not talking about the USA here, now are we ?
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pidan posted:If you assume the fetus as a person, abortion can be seen as self defense. If some rando came up to you and threatened to harm your body in the ways that pregnancy can, you could legally kill him if you can't get away otherwise. So why not a fetus? I don't see the point of this. If I punched a woman in the gut real hard she'd already have grounds for Notwehr based on that alone, no need for an embryo or fetus. At the same time, there should not be a legal excuse for other people to go do Notwehr against a pregnant woman on behalf of her embryo/fetus. pidan posted:That said I think the law is good as it is and would not want to see "abortion deal of the month 300€" ads in women's magazines like you see in China. No, it is not good. If you want to avoid McAbortions that doesn't require going so far as to ban doctors from even mentioning that abortion is a thing that can be done.
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suck my woke dick posted:I don't see the point of this. If I punched a woman in the gut real hard she'd already have grounds for Notwehr based on that alone, no need for an embryo or fetus. At the same time, there should not be a legal excuse for other people to go do Notwehr against a pregnant woman on behalf of her embryo/fetus. You misunderstood me. I'm saying abortion is similar to the woman defending herself against the fetus.
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pidan posted:Actually I just read the wiki article on Notwehr in my lunch break and now my head is ringing: Das Problem gibt es für Juristen nicht, denn der Embryo ist kein Mensch und kann somit de lege lata keine Notwehrlage herbeiführen.
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Wtf is it worth having a baby if the parent don't want it or can't afford it? I don't think we need more people with a miserable childhood on the planet. And it's not like the Kinderheime are empty. We have enough humans. We are producing enough humans. I'm depressed. I wouldn't be a good dad to a child and I know that. Some other people may have their own reasons why they can't take the responsibility of being a parent. Forcing a kid on people is just immoral. I believe some people when they say "Each human life is precious". Those are the quiver-full families. They are trying to bring as many people into the world as they can. So as long as you are not pregnant or trying, gently caress off. Don't shame other people because they TOTALLY KILLED A (possible) HUMAN. RabbitWizard fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Dec 10, 2018 |
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System Metternich posted:I know that it's only been a couple of posts, but the very fact that abortion chat hasn't completely gone to poo poo by the second post at the latest shows that this is actually one of the chiller places on the internet Are you saying "am deutschen Wesen wird die Welt genesen" ?
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None of this would be a problem if we finally started reproducing through mitosis like I've been saying for years
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:None of this would be a problem if we finally started reproducing through mitosis like I've been saying for years And then if you've reproduced and find that you're not actually up to the task, you can just kill the other one and claim you are the new one acting in self-defense. The perfect crime.
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:None of this would be a problem if we finally started reproducing through mitosis like I've been saying for years 
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Sereri posted:And then if you've reproduced and find that you're not actually up to the task, you can just kill the other one and claim you are the new one acting in self-defense. The perfect crime. The ultimate solution to the whole abortion problem and, let's be honest here, what America will ultimately come down to is that we need to arm the fetus. As soon as the fetus can defend itself from the thug mother and the hoodlum abortion doctor, the entire problem solves itself. A collection of bear traps, Selbstschussanlagen and dead man switch neurotoxin release systems should hold back even the most devious assassins
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I'm more in favor of Replicantism. People should be build in factories, assembled organ by organ. Factories which in turn are supplied by other factories, in which the organs are assembled, cell by cell.
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I'm watching the UK parliamentary stream on Brexit and going apparently living in England is like living in Bayern, Thüringen and Sachsen at the same time when it comes to accents. 
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:The ultimate solution to the whole abortion problem and, let's be honest here, what America will ultimately come down to is that we need to arm the fetus. As soon as the fetus can defend itself from the thug mother and the hoodlum abortion doctor, the entire problem solves itself. I don't like Germans talking about ultimate solutions and neurotoxins
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Randler posted:I'm watching the UK parliamentary stream on Brexit and going apparently living in England is like living in Bayern, Thüringen and Sachsen at the same time when it comes to accents. Well, considering we have all those accents and other vile methods of locution even more unfit for human tongues (e.g. Schwäbisch and Hessisch), England seems to be doing comparatively well then.
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Calling the british government a government is an insult to kindergartens around the entire world. Not sure what is a better description though. https://twitter.com/dcakraemer/status/1072234234901860353
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Mithaldu posted:Calling the british government a government is an insult to kindergartens around the entire world. Not sure what is a better description though. That’s not even the best one. https://mobile.twitter.com/antoni_UK/status/1072191950944657409
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The British parliament is a time-honored and deeply important institution. It ought to be preserved in its pristine form just as it is and not be disturbed. Just, you know, make sure to throw any laws and motions they pass right into the shredder. But leave it as a livestreaming daycare for inbred toffs and tories.
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I remember how early-2000s German pundits were looking longingly at Blair's "Cool Britannia", lmao Not connected to the Westminster shitshow, but I'm in awe at the Japanese guy who pulled it off perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppgzMCRVMU0
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My Heimatstadt is in the Nachrichts for all the wrong reasons. Ruhestörung im ~Ankerzentrum~ führte zu polizeieinsatz und Krawallen. I fully expect Neonazis to run this one into the ground until there's no more ground to run poo poo into. https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article185327088/Ankerzentrum-Bamberg-Pflastersteine-fliegen-auf-Polizisten-SEK-muss-anruecken.html
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Duzzy Funlop posted:My Heimatstadt is in the Nachrichts for all the wrong reasons. Ruhestörung im ~Ankerzentrum~ führte zu polizeieinsatz und Krawallen.
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I'll say the same thing about British parliament I keep saying about my parliament: At least it is not Italian parliament.
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Default Settings posted:I'll say the same thing about British parliament I keep saying about my parliament: At least it is not Italian parliament. Die tun sich nicht viel, und sind sogar noch offener in ihrem unverblümten Rassismus gegen Nicht-Engländer.
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I know that this is 11 years old at this point but seriously what the fuckkkkkk, enteignet Springer https://twitter.com/lavievagabonde/status/1072531989020991493?s=21
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Wagner ist die Pest.
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I wonder if all my thoughts would start with "Hey" if I too would need an 11 year old reminder how much BILD sucks
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haldolium posted:I wonder if all my thoughts would start with "Hey" if I too would need an 11 year old reminder how much BILD sucks I'm on my phone so I can't whip up a quick Drake-Mem, but please pretend I did one with "  ing at FJ Wagner" on the top and "extremely normally shooting the messenger" at the bottom
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System Metternich posted:I know that this is 11 years old at this point but seriously what the fuckkkkkk, enteignet Springer Extrem verflucht
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Wort des Tages: Inselaffenapokalypsenmittwocherwartungshaltung 
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Can I just say that Hessians are racist as hell? Like, any chance they get, they just let it all hang out. Which party do I join if I don't like this
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pidan posted:Can I just say that Hessians are racist as hell? Alternative für Hessen 
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Randler posted:Wort des Tages: Ich will Bojo oder Leadsom für noch mehr Realsatire.
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suck my woke dick posted:Alternative für Hessen Nahhh Yeah maybe it's this one
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suck my woke dick posted:Ich will Bojo oder Leadsom für noch mehr Realsatire. Give us Reese-Mog, give them death
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Just read this ZEIT essay about the crisis of modern conservativism and really enjoyed it. Key point for me is the intellectual void in conservative circles. Nobody seems to be capable to muster up the imagination and inspiration to merge a healthy conservativism ("some things are good as they are") in even its basest form with how society actually is at the moment, and many instead opt for stock phrases they don't seem to believe in themselves anyway. It's also very worth pointing out that for many of these positions, there is no internally consistent logical justification present anymore. I don't know if I would support the essay's claim that the only truly unique and ideologically supported conservative tenet still left is the Schwarze Null, but he does make a compelling point that many CDU people are grasping at the straw of "economic stability" to make their party seem relevant. Finally, it's great that Jens Spahn is so bad that he serves as negative prime example for both the "intellectual void" AND "not founded on ideology anymore" points.
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Randler posted:Give us Reese-Mog, give them death I still can't believe that Reese-Mogg is actually real and not some long-running piece of deep-cover satire.
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Perestroika posted:I still can't believe that Reese-Mogg is actually real and not some long-running piece of deep-cover satire. imagine seehofer but as a wittelsbacher cosplayer
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Simply Simon posted:A Zellhaufen is not lebensfähig, a 5-month-old fetus might be with current technology, an 8-month-old one for sure is. ^ this. As long as it's dependent on the mother's body for survival (and cannot reasonably be substituted for by science without an adequate quality of life) it's not a person, it's an extension of the mother with the possibility of eventually becoming a person, and thus the mother's decision what to do with, especially if her health or wellbeing is threatened, or she can't take care of it. I'll meet Torranor halfway in that, ideally, abortion would not be needed - if all people had the means to support children, rape didn't exist, contraception and sex education were commonplace and thus there were 0 unwanted pregnancies. However, that won't happen, and thus abortions will be necessary and should be legal. re: UK, it's a loving shitshow. My university is offering to pay for me to do some sort of special application to the Home Office, in case we drop out without a deal and I'll need to apply for a visa. It'll give me "pre-settled" status and make it harder for them to kick me out, in theory. However, the Home Office is a) actively hostile to immigrants, especially non-white ones, b) aparently staffed exclusively by idiots, c) just recently deported a bunch of old people that had been legally settled in the UK for over 50 years because they lost the loving paperwork and decided to ship them to Jamaica So tbh I'm not sure I'll tell them who or where I am.
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