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Ahh yes, the character that's a walking CWC reference, yes, him. e: I'm not sure what cutting point you're trying to prove here but yes the character based on the dude who was banned from gamestop for defacing their product over sonic's blue arms is going to have non-blue-armed sonic art. Kurieg fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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Conspiracy theories are basically science fiction slash mythology, they do make great fantasy ideas.
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Dec 11, 2018 00:14
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I hate that the thumbnail is small enough my brain immediately went to "someone edited it to be sonic mpreg didn't they?"
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Dec 11, 2018 02:30
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Der Waffle Mous posted:I hate that the thumbnail is small enough my brain immediately went to "someone edited it to be sonic mpreg didn't they?" I unironically love that my brain is disconnected from the internet enough to not know what "sonic mpreg" was.
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Dec 11, 2018 02:59
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Kurieg posted:Ahh yes, the character that's a walking CWC reference, yes, him. I am just really curious about his reaction now that the movie also made Sonic's arms blue.
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Dec 11, 2018 03:23
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Bedlamdan posted:I am just really curious about his reaction now that the movie also made Sonic's arms blue. "Yeah, I saw that Sonic Movie poster, and I instinctively Knew they were botching him up on that." Kurieg fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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Dec 11, 2018 03:36
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Kurieg posted:"Yeah, I saw that Sonic Movie poster, and I instinctively Knew they were botching him up on that." Cue the Farms trying to wind him up for the next several months.
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Dec 11, 2018 03:59
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Those psychos are on the process of trying to bilk CWC from all their family's money and leave them homeless according to a friend of mine so that'd be an improvement.
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Dec 11, 2018 04:25
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Plutonis posted:Those psychos are on the process of trying to bilk CWC from all their family's money and leave them homeless according to a friend of mine so that'd be an improvement. Gives them something to do in between trying to dox everybody opposed to ComicsGate, I suppose.
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Dec 11, 2018 04:56
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homullus posted:I unironically love that my brain is disconnected from the internet enough to not know what "sonic mpreg" was. Lucky you. I know exactly what he means, and due to the DeviantArt-thread am brokebrained enough to imagine it. Help.... 
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Dec 11, 2018 07:28
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There has to be something really related to TG Industry to talk about.... Is it true that that Games Workshop partially righted their ship the past couple of years after kicking out the moronic CEO that said they beat Pokemon?
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Dec 11, 2018 13:23
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Nuns with Guns posted:There has to be something really related to TG Industry to talk about.... They stepped back from killing Fantasy entirely, and there's been a really well-liked new take on 40k, with new fluff that folks are enjoying.
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Dec 11, 2018 14:11
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Mors Rattus posted:They stepped back from killing Fantasy entirely, and there's been a really well-liked new take on 40k, with new fluff that folks are enjoying. And they seem to try and adapt to overpowered gameplay trends faster (or 'at all' in some cases). While I couldn't speak to how well they're doing it, my friends who game seem mostly pleased with the steps they take and the release of errata.
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Dec 11, 2018 14:42
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The thing I've heard is the new CEO seems to understand things like "maybe bundle deals should actually be cheaper than just buying all the pieces individually."
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Dec 11, 2018 14:45
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I do wonder how likely they are to walk back or spin off Age of Sigmar. It seems like people have come around on some of the new factions but all the new names for things are stupid and forgettable.
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Dec 11, 2018 15:08
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I do wonder how likely they are to walk back or spin off Age of Sigmar. It seems like people have come around on some of the new factions but all the new names for things are stupid and forgettable. There is a 0% chance, it's a good game that does well in sales.
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Dec 11, 2018 15:10
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Nuns with Guns posted:There has to be something really related to TG Industry to talk about.... Well, Chaosium is going to be publishing Pendragon and Prince Valiant now. It's not a surprise given that Greg and Stewart passed away recently, but it's nice that it happened smoothly.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I do wonder how likely they are to walk back or spin off Age of Sigmar. It seems like people have come around on some of the new factions but all the new names for things are stupid and forgettable. I was under the impression that the 2nd edition rules closed out some of the worst nonsense?
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Dec 11, 2018 15:14
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Yeah, Age of Sigmar isn't going away at all. They've just decided to keep the Fantasy IP active for licensing. e: and basically I'm fine with that? My main problems with Age of Sigmar revolved around their determination to poo poo on Warhammer Fantasy, which is no longer the case.
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Dec 11, 2018 15:15
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Mors Rattus posted:They stepped back from killing Fantasy entirely, and there's been a really well-liked new take on 40k, with new fluff that folks are enjoying. They also simplified the rules for 40K quite a bit, making it easier for new people to play.
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Dec 11, 2018 15:24
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Kai Tave posted:The thing I've heard is the new CEO seems to understand things like "maybe bundle deals should actually be cheaper than just buying all the pieces individually." For example those Getting Started sets are usually a good deal at least price-wise. Especially the Age of Sigmar stuff. That stuff's so expensive it's silly to not buy them if you at all can.
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Dec 11, 2018 15:33
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Haystack posted:Well, Chaosium is going to be publishing Pendragon and Prince Valiant now. It's not a surprise given that Greg and Stewart passed away recently, but it's nice that it happened smoothly. Oh yea, I saw that. I wonder if they'll pick up work on Charlemagne, too? Dawgstar posted:For example those Getting Started sets are usually a good deal at least price-wise. Especially the Age of Sigmar stuff. That stuff's so expensive it's silly to not buy them if you at all can. Gosh, who would've thought Magic: the Gathering mignt have gotten the "affordable entry point" thing right this whole time?
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Dec 11, 2018 16:43
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Other cool GW stuff: - Thanks to stuff like Kill Team (a small-scale skirmish spin-off from Warhammer) and Necromunda, they've realised that there's a bunch of people who won't plough lots of money into buying a few large armies, but who could be persuaded to put down a stack on getting a bunch of small really diversified armies, so they're doing product lines like Genestealer Cults and Adeptus Mechanicus and so on which I'd thought would have been consigned to history. - The new 40K Warhammer Quest is really cool, they've got a Man of Iron in it (rogue AI robot) and everything. - In general they seem to have their sense of humour back - the Regimental Standard website, for instance, has steered 40K back onto a more obviously satirical tone than it's had for ages. - Lots more women in prominent roles in the fiction, more women writing for Black Library, in general less of a boys' club. In general I think they've righted the ship a lot since the old CEO left.
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Dec 11, 2018 16:49
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Nuns with Guns posted:Oh yea, I saw that. I wonder if they'll pick up work on Charlemagne, too? If Chaosium can just bring Michael Moorcock around and get the Stormbringer licence back (yeah, I know it's not popular around here but it was a pretty popular line for them) they'd have most of their greatest hits back under one roof.
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I guess some actual industry news is GWs half year update. £124m sales, £41m profit. I wonder if many other ttg companies total sales manage to exceed just gw profits.
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Asmodee does around $400 million a year last I saw
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Mors Rattus posted:So, fun fact: this is actually untrue now! Those who have been following this have reported that there is no evidence of Disney gearing up for another fight over it at all. If nothing is passed by January, public domain begins its march again. Also even if Disney loses the copyright on Mickey Mouse, they’ll have the trademark as long as they keep it active, and that’s all they need to make money. After all most of their Princesses are based on characters in the public domain, but that doesn’t stop their Ariel and Belle and Snow White from selling merch. They control those precise likenesses and certain materials relating to the movies and that’s what people care about.
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Random Integer posted:I guess some actual industry news is GWs half year update. £124m sales, £41m profit. I wonder if many other ttg companies total sales manage to exceed just gw profits. Unless Magic: the Gathering has experienced a significant downturn in recent years they should be beating GW both ways.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Also even if Disney loses the copyright on Mickey Mouse, they’ll have the trademark as long as they keep it active, and that’s all they need to make money. After all most of their Princesses are based on characters in the public domain, but that doesn’t stop their Ariel and Belle and Snow White from selling merch. They control those precise likenesses and certain materials relating to the movies and that’s what people care about. It's not even like Mickey Mouse is one of their major moneymakers anymore since they haven't done anything really notable with him in years besides the occasional half-decent cartoon short on YouTube.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's not even like Mickey Mouse is one of their major moneymakers anymore since they haven't done anything really notable with him in years besides the occasional half-decent cartoon short on YouTube. Well I mean, that's true, but they still sell a poo poo ton of stuff with him and all the related characters. He's a mascot. So all they really need to control is the branding. Like if Steamboat Willie went into the public domain, I would be able to write a story with Mickey Mouse in it (ONLY using material from Steamboat Willie as a basis, mind you- couldn't include anything from work that was still under copyright), but since the trademark is still Disney's, I would be very limited in how I could package or promote that story. I would have to make it very clear that this was not a Disney product, or at least do nothing to suggest that it was.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Well I mean, that's true, but they still sell a poo poo ton of stuff with him and all the related characters. He's a mascot. So all they really need to control is the branding. This would be less of a hit NOW, but back then they would trot that poo poo back into theaters every few years for another rake on the children of America.
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Nessus posted:I imagine Disney's concern was more with their older animated features which were still major moneymakers, and probably still are. It would be a dog's age before anything from The Little Mermaid on was public domain, but if they lose Steamboat Willy and the shorts, then a few years later they lose Snow White, Fantasia, etc. If it's increasingly the case that Disney and other big companies aren't getting the benefit they used to out of the long tail, I can see sensible copyright reform happening soon. The long periods involved stem from copyright laws largely originating in the 18th Century, when the intention was that an author's works should provide an income not just for them but also for their dependents (hence "70 years after death" being the duration in the UK). Now that we don't expect half the population to be utterly dependent on a male relative or husband's income to survive that's much less of a concern.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Well I mean, that's true, but they still sell a poo poo ton of stuff with him and all the related characters. He's a mascot. So all they really need to control is the branding. Since that point though, merchandise has become less critical - not that they won't fight to protect their turf but it's not life or death the way it used to be. Additionally changes in distribution patterns makes it harder to fight knockoffs anyways. The official distributors don't require an additional legal stick over and above trademark. Hell the threat of losing business with Disney (and Star Wars, and Marvel, and...) would be enough on its own. And after that, the distribution channels are just some guy online. They'll never chase all of them down and if they tried the bad PR would hurt more than lost sales. And like Maxwell Lord said, the Disney characters that derive from public domain still move merch anyways. This isn't the sole reason - what Warthur and others have said is true as well - but the changes around merchandise remove one of the bigger motives for Disney to press the issue.
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Yeah, never underestimate how much power Disney has by owning most of Americas beloved cartoon characters. Back when the Comics Code restricted what people could publish in comics, Disney said "gently caress that, we will do what we want. We dare you not to carry Disney books" Being able to cut off the tap of Marvel merchandise today is just as big a threat, if not bigger.
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Not, mind, that Disney comics ever violated the Code except maybe the Carl Banks duck stuff.
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Mors Rattus posted:Not, mind, that Disney comics ever violated the Code except maybe the Carl Banks duck stuff. Oh certainly they didn't. But they had enough leverage to ignore something that could have doomed the rest of the industry.
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IIRC some of Disney's oldest copyrights are arguably more important than Steamboat Willie, because of how Mickey evolved over the decades. Stuff like Winnie the Pooh: AA Milne wrote those stories in the 1920s, and the character is essentially unchanged since then, so when Pooh enters the public domain, it'll be more or less open season for Pooh-related merch, new stories, etc. that consumers will recognize as the same character.
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Leperflesh posted:IIRC some of Disney's oldest copyrights are arguably more important than Steamboat Willie, because of how Mickey evolved over the decades. Stuff like Winnie the Pooh: AA Milne wrote those stories in the 1920s, and the character is essentially unchanged since then, so when Pooh enters the public domain, it'll be more or less open season for Pooh-related merch, new stories, etc. that consumers will recognize as the same character. Not sure it'll matter. Disney's Pooh looks unique and even if the original becomes PD I'm fairly sure that a) other people still can't copy the Disney-look Pooh and b) As far as new Pooh content, people will tend to seek the Disney version because everything else will look like Amusing Silly Bear even if the creator can write "Winnie the Pooh" on it. Same with Robin Hood. Nobody can make a disney-looking talking animals Robin Hood, or sell a fox Robin plushie or whatever, and it's not like any of the other cartoons or live action films caused problems for that movie or irs merchandise.
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AlphaDog posted:Not sure it'll matter. Disney's Pooh looks unique and even if the original becomes PD I'm fairly sure that a) other people still can't copy the Disney-look Pooh and b) As far as new Pooh content, people will tend to seek the Disney version because everything else will look like Amusing Silly Bear even if the creator can write "Winnie the Pooh" on it. Yeah, Disney's Pooh looks absolutely nothing like Milne's Pooh, who is very much based on a teddy bear design never really used any more. I think Piglet is the only one that actually resembles the Milne version.
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Warthur posted:Other cool GW stuff: Don't forget beta rules out now and a full new line of models in the next year or so for Sisters of Battle.
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