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| Up North |
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70 | 41.92% |
| New York |
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21 | 12.57% |
| Titan |
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12 | 7.19% |
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18 | 10.78% |
| The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel |
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46 | 27.54% |
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Since I couldn't recall whether or not "we didn't know about concussions until 2007" nonsense was part of the Post-Benoit Media Blitz, I went with Developmental abuse, because that's something that just scars up-and-comers for basically no gain.
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Dec 10, 2018 21:10
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I went with the wellness scandal. The developmental thing was really really bad, but I feel like lovely trainers isn't exactly a rare thing (not that this justifies anything) and it seems that it's mostly been fixed since then. With the wellness, there was the huge issue in the 90s, then this happens post-Benoit and they continue to not take it seriously to this day. The testing was set up to get around the issue as much as possible without outright ignoring it. They bend over backward to try to help anyone they like who might be at risk. The tests haven't been modernized to account for new forms of juicing. They don't care at all and came up with this bullshit program to try to absolve themselves and it doesn't actually help anyone or anything. Basically, they're both really bad but one has kinda been remedied and one hasn't so I'm voting for the one that hasn't been.
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Dec 10, 2018 21:41
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(wondering what the odds are that HHH has brought Demott back again but we just don't know it)
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Dec 10, 2018 22:13
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HHH being in charge of talent is definitely a sign the problem was not fixed.
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Dec 10, 2018 22:17
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Gotta chose the active choice over the panicked reaction.
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Dec 10, 2018 22:25
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Angry_Ed posted:Since I couldn't recall whether or not "we didn't know about concussions until 2007" nonsense was part of the Post-Benoit Media Blitz, I went with Developmental abuse, because that's something that just scars up-and-comers for basically no gain. The whole Chris Nowinski thing brought this to light a few years earlier. WWE's working style at the time definitely contributed to Benoit's brain condition, but the damage had been done years before they ever employed him. IIRC the wellness propaganda was WWE's response to the media latching onto the completely bullshit "roid rage" narrative in the Benoit murders, so WWE is kinda-sorta-almost-if-you-squint-really-hard justified for that one. Voted the Demott thing. Trainees for this industry already have it tough, and are in a zero-power position where they can't speak up (unless they were released and didn't care about burning bridges like Judas Devlin). So the relentless abuse/harassment/hazing on top of that is super egregious, especially when they had long been in the midst of an anti-bullying campaign.
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Dec 10, 2018 23:43
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Demott’s behavior is what I expect from some $5k and maybe you’ll get to job to a C tier indie act school. Certainly not something from a big corporate operation that’s desperately seeking its next breakout act.
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Dec 11, 2018 00:02
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i will say if my boss ever offers me a jelly donut stinkface in return for friday afternoon off, i am beating atlanta traffic that weekend
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Dec 11, 2018 01:47
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HHH: Ha ha, jelly donut stinkface. Hilarious, so old-school. I wonder if I can get away with hiring Demott back yet. "You already did" HHH: Fantastic.
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Dec 11, 2018 01:49
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reminder that there is a very good chance that a lot of talent that got injured and had to retire early in their careers, like Richie Steamboat, had to because of Hugh Morris' awful treatment of injured trainees. There was talk that he had Rusev punished and doing strenuous activities with a broken neck right after he came back
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Dec 11, 2018 02:00
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Developmental wins out for me cause it was a constant state of abuse of people that wanted to be in WWE. Plus they also had they nerve (and still do) of calling WWE a safer style despite that fact. The Benoit post media is bad but typical evil company bad
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Dec 11, 2018 03:32
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i made a ballot like the wh-128 one
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Dec 11, 2018 03:48
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the only issue i have with the bracket is the Warrior Award and Unleash Your Warrior feel like the same exact thing. Both lionizing a piece of poo poo and putting his name on things that he actually didn't care for as some sort of motivational aspect.
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Dec 11, 2018 04:28
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KungFu Grip posted:the only issue i have with the bracket is the Warrior Award and Unleash Your Warrior feel like the same exact thing. Both lionizing a piece of poo poo and putting his name on things that he actually didn't care for as some sort of motivational aspect. This company does a lot of really lovely things that feel the same because they are disgusting. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1072333695800012800
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Dec 11, 2018 04:40
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MassRafTer posted:This company does a lot of really lovely things that feel the same because they are disgusting. Warrior award just ever so slightly cause they are giving it to people that are honestly decent and using it as a honor
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Dec 11, 2018 04:53
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Warrior award in a walk. Just Gods, say what you will about Hogan, at least he got 'suspended' for his bullshit. Warrior's been lionized for even worse behavior. Rename it the Bruno Award please. Just, loving hell. Oh and let's not forget Stephanie's tweet, which was corporate lingo for "Everything we do that could be considered philanthropic we only do for the publicity" ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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Dec 11, 2018 04:57
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It's really funny when you go on r/squaredcircle around HOF time because there'll be a lot of people who are mad about the Warrior award, but for all the wrong reasons. They're mad that Warrior's dumb wish for the award to go to cameramen or some poo poo wasn't respected, not that theres an award dedicated to a Literal White Supremacist. it's because everyone on reddit is, themselves, a white supremacist
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Dec 11, 2018 07:57
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Where is Parts Unknown anyway
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Dec 11, 2018 08:04
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My genital!
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Dec 11, 2018 08:05
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Yeah, by the time I kick off there'll be dozens of Warrior Award recipients and Billy and Chuck will be long forgotten
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Dec 11, 2018 12:44
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Warrior Award is an easy pick because of how horrible he was and how he gets lionized without any amount of contrition. All it took was dying. Couple that with the fact that we have to hear how great he was on a yearly basis and the one-time shittiness of Billy and Chuck pales in comparison. Plus, if I remember right, Billy and Chuck had at least turned face by the engagement so we were supposed to root for their marriage (until the ending made it all so, so stupid).
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Dec 11, 2018 13:57
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I think it's even worse because before warrior came back, the WWE made that hit piece DVD about him and then made him into a martyr once he died So they're double hypocrites Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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Dec 11, 2018 14:10
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Warrior Award is an easy pick because of how horrible he was and how he gets lionized without any amount of contrition. All it took was dying. Couple that with the fact that we have to hear how great he was on a yearly basis and the one-time shittiness of Billy and Chuck pales in comparison. Plus, if I remember right, Billy and Chuck had at least turned face by the engagement so we were supposed to root for their marriage (until the ending made it all so, so stupid). No, the marriage was intended to generate heel heat. They turned face by saying it was all a publicity stunt and they weren’t gay. Then Rico turned on them.
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Dec 11, 2018 14:19
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Smoking Crow posted:I think it's even worse because before warrior came back, the WWE made that hit piece DVD about him and then made him into a martyr once he did Nah, that DVD could be considered a disgusting tactic. Guy refuses to come back and work with us? gently caress him, we'll spend time and money manufacturing a documentary that rips on him. It was one of the reasons Bret came back to due his DVD, despite the bad blood, because he knew Vince would do the same to him.
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Dec 11, 2018 14:39
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I picked Billy & Chuck but it should really be the Warrior Award because no one on WWE TV can pronounce "Warrior"
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Dec 11, 2018 16:02
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This was a somewhat easier pick. I always thought HLA was worse than Billy & Chuck, and well, enough's been said about the Warrior Award(please keep going though).
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Dec 11, 2018 16:09
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I can’t choose GLAAD at this stage. Was scummy at the time for sure. 15 years later they’re still all over WWE though. kinda lessens it.
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Dec 11, 2018 16:30
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The more I think about the developmental abuse the more it becomes clear the company will never change. Trainees were sexually harassed, assaulted, bullied, subject to racist and homophobic slurs and most of the trainers are still there. HHH has more power than ever. He hired the guy in charge of it and let everyone off who covered it up. In any real company all those loving trainers would be gone.
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Dec 11, 2018 16:43
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MassRafTer posted:The more I think about the developmental abuse the more it becomes clear the company will never change. Trainees were sexually harassed, assaulted, bullied, subject to racist and homophobic slurs and most of the trainers are still there. HHH has more power than ever. He hired the guy in charge of it and let everyone off who covered it up. In any real company all those loving trainers would be gone. Most of the offense people have with WWE practices have very little to do with the actual practice. It's that it can be used against a person they already don't like. Just look at the initial Benoit reaction, a ton of people insisted that Benoit couldn't have murdered his family...because he was a good pro wrestler.
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Dec 11, 2018 16:47
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CopywrightMMXI posted:No, the marriage was intended to generate heel heat. They turned face by saying it was all a publicity stunt and they weren’t gay. Then Rico turned on them. drat, my brain must be trying to protect me. It had the turn sooner with them just being partners who cared about each other and people cheering for that but I guess that doesn't make sense considering the company and fan base.
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Dec 11, 2018 16:55
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This one seems easy on the surface but they did some lovely things to Tiger Ali Singh as noted in the replies. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1072561936938778630?s=19
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Dec 11, 2018 22:49
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Woyer edit to say Steroids are OK in response to the new poll
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Dec 11, 2018 22:53
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Charles Gnarwin posted:drat, my brain must be trying to protect me. It had the turn sooner with them just being partners who cared about each other and people cheering for that but I guess that doesn't make sense considering the company and fan base. I also recall them getting over as comedy faces before the wedding thing. Fans got behind it because they were just blatantly aping the Ambiguously Gay Duo from SNL, which was sort of popular at the time.
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Dec 11, 2018 23:01
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I really had high hopes at the time that the "gag" they were going for was that Billy and Chuck were just incredibly blind to the fact that people thought they were gay, because they were the best of friends who also weren't afraid to show affection to each other. Maybe not the best/most progressive angle, but certainly better than the terrible ending which turned out to be,"No no we were totally aware and actively pretending to be gay but we're totally straight and going into full on gay-panic mode now."
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Dec 11, 2018 23:38
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MassRafTer posted:This one seems easy on the surface but they did some lovely things to Tiger Ali Singh as noted in the replies. Tiger because steroids are cool.
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Dec 11, 2018 23:41
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I voted steroids because of how many deaths can be at least partially attributed to a company culture of steroid abuse and having the boss directly involved in the distribution is tough to beat. I feel bad not voting for Tiger though because a lot of the racist entries have been matched up with just insanely repugnant and wipespread practices.
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Dec 11, 2018 23:50
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I went with Tiger. The steroids are bad but is a weird systemic issue. Tiger is a case of the company making GBS threads on one person a bunch of times for no good reason.
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Dec 12, 2018 01:07
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Okay the Billy and Chuck thing was bad. But it did lead to Rico coming out with Three Minute Warning for like a month which was hilarious.
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Dec 12, 2018 02:24
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The Steroids win for me cause they were openly encouraging them and not just to heal injuries but also to get talent to bulk up. Also cause the death rate in the 90's and early 00's was due to steroids
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Dec 12, 2018 02:49
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Can you imagine a world where Vince went down in the steroid trials? WCW could have devoured WWE in the aftermath and still collapsed due to their own lovely mismanagement. We'd have no national wrestling brand friends. That beautiful reality. gently caress you Kevin Wacholz. loving idiot. (I may have conceived a TEW fantasy mod under those exact circumstances) ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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Dec 12, 2018 02:51
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